Reports: Marion Barber died from heat stroke

G2 · Jul 12, 2022

HungryLion said:
My guess is they were waiting for more testing on his blood, etc to come back checking for drugs or other chemicals. That can take a couple weeks.

That's exactly what happened.

Haimerej · Jul 12, 2022

G2 said:
I'm not questioning your expertise. The whole thing just felt odd is all.

Looking a little more into it, he was in a tub with running water and decomposition had begun. That complicates post-mortem examination and lab work. The heat in the apartment definitely accelerated the decomposition.

The family said he didn't want his brain examined but a full autopsy includes a brain exam. Not sure how the laws work in Texas but I can't imagine they wouldn't look at his brain in a full post. But the severity of the decomposition affects that as well. It doesn't take very long in temperatures above 90° for decomposition to get pretty bad.

conner01 · Jul 12, 2022

G2 said:
Feels like that could have been determined a little earlier.

Probably if he was the only person they were examining and toxicology takes some time to complete

Streifenkarl · Jul 12, 2022

RonnieT24 said:
Well I don't go out in the middle of the day.. I run in the evenings after work.. Though I did used to run at lunch time when I lived in California. But that place was a lot cooler than here and I was a lot younger. But anybody in Texas can attest that there is not a lot of dropoff in temps between 5 and 9 pm so it's still too damn hot to be outside running at 7 or 8 pm. But to your last point.. I do think building a tolerance for heat has a purpose which is frankly just to be able to function in life without air conditioning 24x7. I need to cut my grass.. prune my plants.. walk my dog.. fix on my cars and my boat.. (which I can't do in the garage because the wife has it stuffed with stuff but that's a rant for another day) .. There's just a lot of stuff I like to do that requires that I go outside.. and if I build some tolerance for the heat I can do it without passing out.. Which is important! LOL!

Bwahahaha, I hear ya brother, I hear ya.

I'm really sorry for Marion's family, my thoughts are with them. I'm an avid runner, even in the heat. Won't stop doing that. Some can take it and some can't. You never know. I really hope he didn't do it on purpose though as that would be a lot harder for the family. The "could I have done something to prevent it" thoughts just make things even more unbearable.

Pass2Run · Jul 12, 2022

I would like to hear the 911 call from the PD, so I can verify if the water was coming from his apartment before the person called. Or if it was for something else.

It seems really strange for a world class athlete to have a heat stroke inside of his own apartment.

The highest temperature the day he died was 86, the low was 72. That's not exactly heat stroke weather.

Seems really fishy, given the book he was in the process of writing coupled with the kind of corruption with that department.

Could it be the heat was turned on to accelerate decomposition?

Not to be a conspiracy theorist, but that wouldn't be the first time something like that happened.

Haimerej said:
Looking a little more into it, he was in a tub with running water and decomposition had begun. That complicates post-mortem examination and lab work. The heat in the apartment definitely accelerated the decomposition.

The family said he didn't want his brain examined but a full autopsy includes a brain exam. Not sure how the laws work in Texas but I can't imagine they wouldn't look at his brain in a full post. But the severity of the decomposition affects that as well. It doesn't take very long in temperatures above 90° for decomposition to get pretty bad.

Several days of the water running and then the neighbors called, at least a couple days later? To me, it sounds like they would have noticed that earlier than that.

Why didn't they?

Haimerej · Jul 12, 2022

Pass2Run said:
Several days of the water running and then the neighbors called, at least a couple days later? To me, it sounds like they would have noticed that earlier than that.

Why didn't they?

I don't know the time frame but if it was several days before he was found in that temperature I can understand how labs would take a little longer.

Hadenough · Jul 12, 2022

terra said:
What a pile of crap.

When something doesn't make sense there is usually more to it than what you hear. You seem to be the only one trying to snuff out any idea of CTE. I'm calling BS on your BS!

JoeKing · Jul 12, 2022

The people coming out of the woodwork like cockroaches, now claiming to be his friend are pathetic. They let him down by not being there for him. Mental health was obviously a factor here. This upsets me greatly.

Corso · Jul 12, 2022

JoeKing said:
The people coming out of the woodwork like cockroaches, now claiming to be his friend are pathetic. They let him down by not being there for him. Mental health was obviously a factor here. This upsets me greatly.

I make no judgments, but it truly is a tragedy.

Crazed Liotta Eyes · Jul 12, 2022

glimmerman said:
Think of the 2 a day workouts they used to do in Texas heat. And in Florida. Guys loosing 15 to 20 pounds a day and drinking gallons of water. Everyone thought it made you tough. I am sure to a certain extent it could be a advantage on a limited basis but not weeks at a time.

That was us back in the day. I played high school football in Texas back in the 80s and we weren't a very good team. Our coaches worked us unbelievably hard during 2-a-days, withholding water breaks when we didn't suddenly become good. I'm surprised none of us died after what he put us through. We were very well conditioned once the games started but we lacked the talent to be really good.

terra · Jul 12, 2022

Hadenough said:
When something doesn't make sense there is usually more to it than what you hear. You seem to be the only one trying to snuff out any idea of CTE. I'm calling BS on your BS!

And YOU want it to be CTE so I am calling you out for YOUR BS.
See how that works?

Captain-Crash · Jul 12, 2022

We played a division rival in college basketball who would turn the heat up really high during the first half, then in the second half, they would have the gym very cold. Back then I was in very good shape and it really didn't hurt me, that and being skinny as a rail. lol

TRUTH87 · Jul 12, 2022

for his thermostat temp to be set to 91 and heat “on”. that is no accident. i live in chicago and with our winters furnace temp is set around 68-75 degrees max. 91tho? in texas? he definitely pressed the button 20-30 times to reach 91 in my opinion that’s no accident

vlad · Jul 12, 2022

RIP to perhaps the most memorable runner I’ve watched as a Cowboy fan.

Typhus · Jul 12, 2022

This story gets sadder by the day it seems.
Just RIP MB3.
Let this man R.I.P.

KobeSingh921 · Jul 12, 2022

Plankton said:
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/07/11/marion-barber-died-from-heat-stroke/

The Collin County medical examiner’s office ruled Marion Barber III died from a heat stroke, according to multiple reports.

Frisco, Texas, police found the former Cowboys running back dead inside his apartment June 1 while conducting a welfare check. Barber was 38.

RIP

SiCk_DiAbLo · Jul 13, 2022

That's gotta be a first, Heat Stroke up in the apt...

Toro9 · Jul 13, 2022

Nav22 said:
A heat stroke inside his apartment? Poor guy must’ve been totally out of it.

Well, I think he was found in his shower so he was probably trying to cool off. He definitely wasn't in a good place mentally. Maybe he was running for a long time in this crazy heat.

glimmerman · Jul 14, 2022

Crazed Liotta Eyes said:
That was us back in the day. I played high school football in Texas back in the 80s and we weren't a very good team. Our coaches worked us unbelievably hard during 2-a-days, withholding water breaks when we didn't suddenly become good. I'm surprised none of us died after what he put us through. We were very well conditioned once the games started but we lacked the talent to be really good.

I think people were tougher back then. As I get older I swear every year it gets hotter and hotter. Harder to stay in shape. As generations have went in they have gotten better at techniques to get conditioned without the heat. But you can notice certain teams have a advantage when you play in the heat or the cold they are used to practicing in. Has to be a fine line of danger and conditioning. Seeing some teams in the 4th quarter with hands on there hips.

Bullet22 · Jul 14, 2022

America's Cowboy said:
Was the AC not working in his apartment?

Much info missing from that report.

I agree...

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