Bucs adding full-time coaching job for women

erod · Mar 7, 2019

Lou Holtz already beat her to it.

ABQCOWBOY · Mar 7, 2019

Dre11 said:
How long before the sexual accusations whether it's assaults or things said happens. Our film studies can get very graphic with some of the conversations we have amongst coaches, kinda like the barbershop.

Don't go there. It's will be turned and used against you. It will eventually devolve into a political discussion and this thread will be closed. I understand what you are saying but this is one of those No Win situations. Just saying.

millennial_legend · Mar 7, 2019

So this means they can take Jason Garrett off our hands?

erod · Mar 7, 2019

Dre11 said:
How long before the sexual accusations whether it's assaults or things said happens. Our film studies can get very graphic with some of the conversations we have amongst coaches, kinda like the barbershop.

That's why everybody players distanced from Michael Sam the minute he got here.

Locker rooms are not a PC kind of place.

ABQCOWBOY · Mar 7, 2019

RamziD said:
No one is forcing anyone to do anything. One coach is creating an extra position on his staff (one that does not affect other positions) for which he said he believes there are already a qualified group of female candidates who presumably would like the job. I don’t see any problem with that.

So then, would it be fair to say that women can only fill the role that has been created for them, under this new position and that the other coaching jobs are only for men, specifically, because those jobs were created for men? Think about what you are saying here. Are you really doing the best thing by creating these types of situations? Listen to what people are saying about mandatory interviews for minorities. Everybody thought it was a great idea when it was mandated but now, there are a lot of people who think that it might have done more harm then good. Just saying.

ABQCOWBOY · Mar 7, 2019

erod said:
That's why everybody players distanced from Michael Sam the minute he got here.

Locker rooms are not a PC kind of place.

At all, and if you try to make them into those kinds of places, you will fail. There is a reason that people have said the whole, what happens on the field, stays on the field (or in the locker room).

Hawkeye0202 · Mar 7, 2019

Dre11 said:
How long before the sexual accusations whether it's assaults or things said happens. Our film studies can get very graphic with some of the conversations we have amongst coaches, kinda like the barbershop.

It's probably why 99.91/2 of women has never aspired to be football coach.....

Dre11 · Mar 7, 2019

erod said:
That's why everybody players distanced from Michael Sam the minute he got here.

Locker rooms are not a PC kind of place.

Yep, even on the sidelines with women trainers we have to be careful what you say. It's a Neanderthal game and we act Neanderthal in those settings. It's part of the camaraderie.

408Cowboy · Mar 7, 2019

CATCH17 said:
Where could you find any woman with experience coaching that is legitimately qualified to be an NFL coach?

Maybe there is someone you could find somewhere at some high school or something but you would really have to skip over a lot more coaches that are coaching at elite levels of football to get there and you wouldn’t be hiring them for anything other then their gender.

There's plenty of women that would be great strength and conditioning coaches.

There's also plenty of women that love and study football as much as it appears only men should be able to. My mom broke down everything I did wrong in front of my team and coaches at practice. Everytime.

408Cowboy · Mar 7, 2019

Jipper said:
while i do support equality in the workplace, how is setting up a role for a specific gender allowed exaclty? i would assume it has to be open to both men and women or it would be discriminatory in nature....

How many women you see suiting up at training camp? Using your logic the league is discriminatory by nature.

Reverend Conehead · Mar 7, 2019

John813 said:
If they are the most qualified, good for them. If this is a PR stunt, well, the team won't have the best person for whatever position she'll be hired for. Their loss.

Exactly. If this makes them a better team, thumbs up. If it makes them worse, thumbs down.

Kevinicus · Mar 7, 2019

408Cowboy said:
How many women you see suiting up at training camp? Using your logic the league is discriminatory by nature.

There is no NFL policy preventing women from playing, if they are good enough. That is discrimination based on skill/talent.

Every position at every employer is filled using discrimination of some sort.

This particular position appears to be using discrimination first based on gender (and then further discrimination based on ability - I assume).

ABQCOWBOY · Mar 7, 2019

Dre11 said:
Yep, even on the sidelines with women trainers we have to be careful what you say. It's a Neanderthal game and we act Neanderthal in those settings. It's part of the camaraderie.

It's more then that and this is the side of Football that many do not want to hear. In order to be successful, in order to win, you have to match that level, the level the opponent is willing to go to. Another word for it might be intensity and that's what you hear it called because a segment of our society does not want to acknowledge this side of sports in general and it's not just Football. This is what it is. It goes on in mens lockers as well as womens. There are definitely two sides of the coin here.

erod · Mar 7, 2019

408Cowboy said:
How many women you see suiting up at training camp? Using your logic the league is discriminatory by nature.

Exactly. This isn't like a Connecticut high school girls track meet.

windward · Mar 7, 2019

The misogyny in this thread....

408Cowboy · Mar 7, 2019

Kevinicus said:
There is no NFL policy preventing women from playing, if they are good enough. That is discrimination based on skill/talent.

Every position at every employer is filled using discrimination of some sort.

This particular position appears to be using discrimination first based on gender (and then further discrimination based on ability - I assume).

I'll wait and see what the position is and what it entails before I even start to care if it may be discriminatory. I actually hope it's something a vast majority of men wouldn't even want to do. The reactions from that would be entertaining.

408Cowboy · Mar 7, 2019

erod said:
Exactly. This isn't like a Connecticut high school girls track meet.

You ever play? What kind of fields did you play on? Neighborhood park or empty fields? Or anything else?

ABQCOWBOY · Mar 7, 2019

408Cowboy said:
I'll wait and see what the position is and what it entails before I even start to care if it may be discriminatory. I actually hope it's something a vast majority of men wouldn't even want to do. The reactions from that would be entertaining.

You think there is a job in the NFL that a majority of men wouldn't want to do? I can't think of one such job.

408Cowboy · Mar 7, 2019

ABQCOWBOY said:
You think there is a job in the NFL that a majority of men wouldn't want to do? I can't think of one such job.

I never put any actual thought into it. I just want something to laugh at.

ABQCOWBOY · Mar 7, 2019

408Cowboy said:
I never put any actual thought into it. I just want something to laugh at.

Fair enough. For the record, I don't think such a job exists. I would be surprised if it did.

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