Tanks seeks 22.5, Cowboys offer 20

Melonfeud

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This isn't going to go over well...the Cowboys not only talking publicly about is shoulder injury (Jerry Jones speaking at the Owners Meetings), now leaking the numbers is going to make his agent and DLaw unhappy.
Ya well,ya know? They've apparently not been all that happy the last couple of years to begin with, I wouldn't kick in anymore to the kitty that's already been put on the negotiating table& were it me? I'd start gradually revamping production incentive clauses in the offeredcontract,being detrimental to him ,were he not to sign by x calendar date
 
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It may be 22mil he's asking for but, the whole deal is how much guaranteed money they want. We could at 100mil to the contract in year 5 though
he would never see it.

That is of course true, however the shoulder thing has left a very nasty taste in the mouth. I would imagine from jery and garretts comments that negotiating tactic has not gone down very well.
It is doubly annoying to me to be agreeing with the FO on this as i am usually in the other camp when it comes to the joneses.
 
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So did he agree to the contract yet.. He got his contract now quit playing around and sign it by days end. JJ and SJ ha e a big press conference later today or tomorrow. D-Law gets his shoulder surgery done and is ready by the end of July for action.
 
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I'm arguing why, from the player's perspective, he would delay. Obviously the Cowboys are going to have the same concerns from their side.

Both sides must come to an equitable agreement.

It so funny Lawrence is getting all this hate from some of the same people who wanted to pay ET crazy money coming of multiple injured years & lambasted the FO for being cheap in free agency.
ET is a likely HOF player. He is the best at his position in the league.....by a mile. True, he's been injured, but with broken leg bones. Those heal as good as new. Backs and shoulders that require surgery. .... not so much. ET also got 13 mil, or so, not 22 mil. Huge difference.
 

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With the difference in tax rates of the States, at 20 million, DeMarcus is likely to take home close to the same as Mack.
 

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loolks like greed strikes again so now that they have lost Lawrence how many of the other top free agents like dak or cooper or jones will the sign or will they lose most of them to
 

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With the difference in tax rates of the States, at 20 million, DeMarcus is likely to take home close to the same as Mack.
After taxes and agent fee he will bring home a little better than half of that..
 

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The way I look at it, his delayed surgery and recovery are going to impact his availability and not knowing how much damage is in need of repair and the outlook for full recovery is troubling.

Yeah I dont know the timeline but was under the impression if we get something done soon he will be full go before training camp.
 

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The Cowboys have been good the past two years because they have stayed away from top tier FAs and have a young roster. They were in cap purgatory for almost two decades because of situations like the Aikman release, one example of many.

The Cowboys haven't been in cap purgatory in a long, long time. That's just something those who are living in the salary cap hell past hold on to or those who think that is the reason the team doesn't spend a lot on outside free agents, which is a philosophy shift based on some high-priced FAs not proving to be worth the investment not due to a lack of cap space or the ability to create cap space.

In 2013, they signed Tony Romo to a six-year $108 million contract with $55 million guaranteed, making him the highest-paid player in Cowboys history and topping the deal that Baltimore had just given Joe Flacco.

In 2014, they signed Tyron Smith to an eight-year extension worth nearly $110 million. Other high-priced extensions have been signed by Travis Frederick and Zack Martin.

Each of these signings were based on calculations about how they fit into the cap, what the team believed the worth of the player was, etc. The Cowboys also have shown by acquiring Amari Cooper (set to earn $14 million) that it isn't cost that keeps them from being a player in free agent, it is the high price vs. expected returns on the investment. There are other examples of this that can be used, but Cooper is probably the most recent example that shows that it's about valuation for Dallas not cap space, which can be created in a variety of ways, shifted from year to year, etc.
 

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Trade him for 1st Rounder in '19 or '20, depending on 1st Rounder received get a 2nd for opposite year, and a 4th Rounder '19. This is below the package Mack was traded for. Similar players like everyone has been saying, but I think Tank is lower in skill so the additional 1st Rounder that Oakland got is too much. Dallas doesn't need to add anything in deal.

Once traded. Acquire Quinn with some of his salary paid. Sign either McKoy or Suh for less money then what the Tank would get. Work with NFL to get Gregory reinstated.

A front starting 4 of Quinn-Crawford-Suh/Mckoy-Gregory with depth of Taco, Woods, Collins, Hyde and Covington is a beast of a DL unit. And we have money saved, and draft picks to boot.

Get'er done!!!
 

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That should be easy if it’s just the yearly average. Offer the same guaranteed money and just add more incentives to get him up to $22 million/year. Most players never get the full deal anyway.
 

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You are taking this way to personal.

It’s just entertainment. They are not saving lives or forming CIA death squads.

Im Imaging how upset real life stuff must make you.


Relax. Enjoy.
YOU aint seen me mad.
 

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I've had the both my shoulders operated on two times each. Right shoulder 6 anchors to put labrum back together , and AC joint repair. Left shoulder 5 anchors, AC joint repair, and bicep tendon repair. All this to say THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL he comes back full strength by August. This could be Andrew Luck all over again.
 

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I'd like to see what the Cowboys offer on guarantees is like, because that's all that really matters in the end.

Bell chose to sit out a year even though the Steelers gave him a $70M contract offer, because only $10M was guaranteed. The salary numbers looked good on an ESPN ticker line (which is probably half of why the Steelers did it - "see what a generous offer Bell just declined"), but they were really offering him a 1 year $10M contract which was a freaking pittance.

So don't just look at the top-line numbers; look at the guaranteed money. Usually it tracks along with the total salary; about 50-60% of the total contract, but you can never be sure until the deal is done.
 
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