Tanks seeks 22.5, Cowboys offer 20

[GMO415]

Give him $22 and only guarantee him $60!

 

[75boyz]

Once he gets paid, he will not be the same. Gets cut in 3 years.

In my opinion...your Sig 'Realist' is both appropriate and accurate in this case.
Very bad gut feeling is all.

 

[atlantacowboy]

20 million a year for a guy who disappears in the big games. The Cowboys will regret this big time.

He's already rejected 20 million per.......its insanity.

 

[beware_d-ware]

Also, I'm waiting to see how the negotiations with Clark and Clowney go.

If they sign for around $20M, there's going to be a lot of downward pressure on Lawrence, because then he couldn't assume the open market would pay him more than what the Cowboys are offering. But if they end up in the $22M or $23M neighborhood, we may end up over a barrel.

 

[Jake]

So he wants Aaron Donald money, which would be fine if he was Aaron Donald.

 

[Brax]

That's my fear, invest huge money in this guy and he starts his decline...and he's going into negotiations needing another surgery. I like D Law but not enough to hamstring the future of this young team.

You mirror my concerns.

 

[LittleD]

They will end up splitting the difference at 21.5 million and calling it a day

I don't think any signing takes place until that surgery is iron clad scheduled. He's going to lose 6 to 8 weeks of training once the surgery is completed. This is one bad deal for Dallas IMHO.

 

[OmerV]

Give him $22 and only guarantee him $60!

I'm sure the guaranteed portion is really the hang up. If it were just the annual salary a player wouldn't consider sitting out a year and losing $20 million that he cannot recoup with that extra $2.5 million per year.

 

[nightrain]

The Cowboys haven't been in cap purgatory in a long, long time. That's just something those who are living in the salary cap hell past hold on to or those who think that is the reason the team doesn't spend a lot on outside free agents, which is a philosophy shift based on some high-priced FAs not proving to be worth the investment not due to a lack of cap space or the ability to create cap space.

In 2013, they signed Tony Romo to a six-year $108 million contract with $55 million guaranteed, making him the highest-paid player in Cowboys history and topping the deal that Baltimore had just given Joe Flacco.

In 2014, they signed Tyron Smith to an eight-year extension worth nearly $110 million. Other high-priced extensions have been signed by Travis Frederick and Zack Martin.

Each of these signings were based on calculations about how they fit into the cap, what the team believed the worth of the player was, etc. The Cowboys also have shown by acquiring Amari Cooper (set to earn $14 million) that it isn't cost that keeps them from being a player in free agent, it is the high price vs. expected returns on the investment. There are other examples of this that can be used, but Cooper is probably the most recent example that shows that it's about valuation for Dallas not cap space, which can be created in a variety of ways, shifted from year to year, etc.

They have made positive strides that past few years, but they have some tough decisions to make over the next few years and they can't sign everybody. If they devolve back into that mode of renegotiating contracts and turning money due into signing bonuses with extended years, it won't take long to revisit the Campo era.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

SHOCKER, GREEDY AGENT. lol...Gonna haggle over 2 mil. lol..

one could also say greedy owner, haggling over 2 million,,,

 

[America's Cowboy]

D-Law is simply being greedy and disrespectfully trying to hold the team hostage by stalling on having corrective shoulder surgery. $20/season is more than enough for him. Probably too much for his constant injured and late season waning self. Yet, he demands $22.5 mil / season?

GTHOH with that. Trade him!

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Not when a player and agent go back on their word to the organization due to greed.

Very easily this can be turned around. Trade Lawrence for close to Mack return, trade for Quinn, sign Suh with saved money, draft accordingly. I don't think fans would see this a failure.

But now it’s out that he won’t sign for under 22.5. If they team that likes him the most won’t give him that, why is someone else gonna trade you even a 1 just to overpay him?

 

[speedkilz88]

one could also say greedy owner, haggling over 2 million,,,

Not when the agent raised his asking price 2.5 million after the Cowboys agreed to his original asking price. That's not in good faith, that's moving the goal post.

 

[CouchCoach]

Is he gonna show up in crunch time and the playoffs, if he gets that kind of money. More than 10% of the cap to a DE, and not the best one in the game, is just stupid. And the rumor is another 15% to the QB. 25% of the cap to 2 players will force this team to let some badly needed players walk. They're in danger of screwing this team right into the ground, they just don't learn.

What do you think Elliott, Cooper and J Smith are going to want now?

They paid him 17M for one tagged season, that should be the ceiling going forward.

 

[unionjack8]

I'd take my offer off the table if I'm Jerry...

 

[Big_D]

He's not worth that money. Trade him.

 

[starfan1]

He's not worth that money. Trade him.

can he be traded if he isn't under contract? Just a question because if he can be traded I'm like see ya you aint what you think you are

 

[glimmerman]

can he be traded if he isn't under contract? Just a question because if he can be traded I'm like see ya you aint what you think you are

No. I think he has to sign the tag.

 

[Roadtrip635]

one could also say greedy owner, haggling over 2 million,,,

Jerry may be greedy in a sense, but this ain't the case here, that money ain't going back in Jerry's pocket, it's gonna get paid to someone else.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Also, I'm waiting to see how the negotiations with Clark and Clowney go.

If they sign for around $20M, there's going to be a lot of downward pressure on Lawrence, because then he couldn't assume the open market would pay him more than what the Cowboys are offering. But if they end up in the $22M or $23M neighborhood, we may end up over a barrel.

Well, trading him is still an option, and this draft has a lot of DEs that are high powered. So, we may not be up the stream without an oar if we can't come to an agreement. If anything, the DEs and DTs in this draft make this actually a break for us if we do end up trading him. I expect we'll draft a DE or two anyway and pick up some more DEs via UDFAs. So, trading him may not be a bad move.