The power struggle is becoming real

SultanOfSix · Oct 14, 2019

Garrett's a weasel. We know he's already sneakily undercut the authority of a head coach while he was a subordinate. Why wouldn't he undercut the ability of a subordinate?

lostar2009 · Oct 14, 2019

Good conspiracy plot but highly doubt it. JG has too much to loose this year than to hold Kellen Moore down. If JG lose out this season I doubt he get another HC gig.

FuzzyLumpkins · Oct 14, 2019

Rayman70 said:
ONE VOICE is needed..not a team of coaches lol..it causes confusion. One voice, one direction...WE HAVE NEITHER.

I don't agree with that either -you can show a unified front even from a committee approach- but if you like the big man ideal you can still get input from a committee.

Rayman70 · Oct 14, 2019

Garrett is who we always thought he was. A overrated Princeton grad who thinks HE knows better than everyone else. 10 YEARS LATER...same ole results.

blueblood70 · Oct 14, 2019

FuzzyLumpkins said:
Fact: Moore stated he wanted to use more RPO, motion, and PA.
Fact: the first few weeks we saw more RPO, motion, and PA.
Fact: the past two weeks we have been running markedly less motion, RPO, and PA.
Fact: the past two weeks we have been running the offense as we were when Garrett was coordinating it.

Deal with it.

not fact about power struggles and whos making the decsions.. not facts supporting that notion, proof..

all that says in KM is doing a poor job and its most likely shell shocked as rookie coach to be down 21 and 18 points and having to trash the game plan. fact is the title of this thread is not fact and again its doesnt matter what you feel..KM is the OC hes calling plays and its his to own..period.. show me facts saying otherwise..

Rayman70 · Oct 14, 2019

FuzzyLumpkins said:
I don't agree with that either -you can show a unified front even from a committee approach- but if you like the big man ideal you can still get input from a committee.

Maybe I am old school. WOW...has the game regressed THAT MUCH where we need multiple offensive coord? lol..and multiple D coord? Seems foolish and just a bad idea.

Dre11 · Oct 14, 2019

FuzzyLumpkins said:
What Moore said was that Garrett had the same level of input as in previous weeks. He laughed at the interference notion because the HC always has final call on gameplans every week.

Moore said he was going to implement more motion and RPO. He even went on length about why he wanted to do it.

We saw that the first 3 weeks. The last 2 weeks it's been back to 2013.

.basically taking the same system of Garrett and Linehan and tweaking it as a collaborated effort.
https://www.dallascowboys.com/video/coaches-kellen-moore-installing-the-offense

kumizi · Oct 14, 2019

JJHLH1 said:
You think Garrett believes Kellen is going to take his job? Could be. The last 3 weeks have been beyond strange. But Garrett would be slitting his own throat so it doesn’t make sense.

No.

I think when Jason Garrett feels adversity/heat, he reverts back to conservative mode. Less passing on first down. Less play action. Let's run the ball down their throats and play conservatively. He is a huge P.

Risen Star · Oct 14, 2019

Nobody has a better feel for the day to day operations of this team than Floaty.

408Cowboy · Oct 14, 2019

Asklesko said:
I really don't buy it. Not this time. Garrett really needs to win this year, and Moore's super fantastic innovation was winning games before the skid. Garrett would have to be some sort of sociopath to get in the way of that. This year we just suck.

I'll go conspiracy here. Garrett's emotionless demeanor seems to have rubbed off on the team so it's fair to say JJ's ego has rubbed off on Garrett. Either way they should start frequenting massage parlours with Kraft.

Rayman70 · Oct 14, 2019

Parcells had Sean Payton...and he listened to him. We have Garrett and Moore...and apparently Jon Kitna..like a 3 headed monster of play callers lol..its just weird. THAT SAID, Offense isn't the issue. Its coaching on D and Jason Garrets lack of direction.

Blackspider214 · Oct 14, 2019

fifaguy said:
Pure vanilla offense. Painfully obvious predictability in play calls. I.e. Dak's option run on 4th and 2. Running into a wall on first downs. Lack of pre snap movement by receivers. No involvement of Pollard in the offense. Play action nonexistent again?

I laughed at people who actually thought this staff would use Pollard in a creative manner. Remember this is the same team who told us Tavon Austin would see a big percentage of touches each game. I think Stephen said this. And what happened? All he did was take the same lame jet sweeps that every other slot WR we have had got. We don't actually create roles based on what a player can do. We just insert that player into the already predetermined gameplan/roles we have and go with that.

This entire staff needs to be put out to rot in the pasture.

Rayman70 · Oct 14, 2019

408Cowboy said:
I'll go conspiracy here. Garrett's emotionless demeanor seems to have rubbed off on the team so it's fair to say JJ's ego has rubbed off on Garrett. Either way they should start frequenting massage parlours with Kraft.

should hire Garrett as a MAs souse. lol

FuzzyLumpkins · Oct 14, 2019

blueblood70 said:
not fact about power struggles and whos making the decsions.. not facts supporting that notion, proof..

all that says in KM is doing a poor job and its most likely shell shocked as rookie coach to be down 21 and 18 points and having to trash the game plan. fact is the title of this thread is not fact and again its doesnt matter what you feel..KM is the OC hes calling plays and its his to own..period.. show me facts saying otherwise..

i find it amusing that you take issue with the soap opera narrative -which I agree is garbage- and then present one of your own.

At the end of the day we are no longer running what Moore said he wanted to run and instead are running what Garrett has always run. Given that fact your narrative is not only unsupported but moreso refuted by reality.

i would also say your take is pretty ignorant into how gameplans and callsheets are put together. None of that happens without Garrett's direct approval.

fifaguy · Oct 14, 2019

Blackspider214 said:
I laughed at people who actually thought this staff would use Pollard in a creative manner. Remember this is the same team who told us Tavon Austin would see a big percentage of touches each game. I think Stephen said this. And what happened? All he did was take the same lame jet sweeps that every other slot WR we have had got. We don't actually create roles based on what a player can do. We just insert that player into the already predetermined gameplan/roles we have and go with that.

This entire staff needs to be put out to rot in the pasture.

I think Stephen Jones (not sure why he is talking) at multiple points had said Pollard would get 15-20 touches hahaha. Also said the same about Austin when they first signed him.
He doesn't even get that end around play anymore! What a joke.

FuzzyLumpkins · Oct 14, 2019

Dre11 said:
.basically taking the same system of Garrett and Linehan and tweaking it as a collaborated effort.
https://www.dallascowboys.com/video/coaches-kellen-moore-installing-the-offense

That was back in June.

That also is not mutually exclusive with him wanting to run more motion and RPO. those were the "tweaks" he was talking about.

landryscorner · Oct 14, 2019

Floatyworm said:
Jason Garrett is feeling the Kellen Moore heat. There is something very odd about the offense the last few weeks....as if Garrett is purposely trying to take back control. Many people have already noticed the change...from the start of the season. Comments?

So what? non story btw they are both losers.....so a power struggle between these 2 is pointless...and while were at it.....I TOLD YOU SO. Cowboys aint' ready.

buybuydandavis · Oct 14, 2019

Floatyworm said:
Jason Garrett is feeling the Kellen Moore heat. There is something very odd about the offense the last few weeks....as if Garrett is purposely trying to take back control. Many people have already noticed the change...from the start of the season. Comments?

Another possibility. Moore is even a better backstabbing weasel than Garrett, and is sabotaging the offense and making it *look* like the failure comes from Garrett.

The play call on the 2 point conversion was horrible. It played away from every strength we have on offense generally, and in particular given our depleted WR corps this Sunday.

Also, with Cobb out, and Cooper, Gallup, and Austin on the injury report, why was Devin Smith inactive?

Some things just look like sabotage.

rnr_honeybadger · Oct 14, 2019

jsb357 said:
Now Garrett knows how Wade felt when he was guiding the torpedoes

I have always said that Garrett should have been fired the same day Wade was.

Verdict · Oct 14, 2019

FuzzyLumpkins said:
Fact: Moore stated he wanted to use more RPO, motion, and PA.
Fact: the first few weeks we saw more RPO, motion, and PA.
Fact: the past two weeks we have been running markedly less motion, RPO, and PA.
Fact: the past two weeks we have been running the offense as we were when Garrett was coordinating it.

Deal with it.

I don’t always agree with you, but it’s pretty hard to not agree with all of that except the deal with it part. Lol.

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