Twitter: Slater: McCarthy hasn’t spoken to Dak yet

Playmaker247 said:

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amazing.

Reality said:

Not surprised, since he hasn't even completed assembling his staff yet.

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really?

does he even have Daks cell number?

You’d think he would call him first thing.

hey Dak. Coach here. Let’s talk ....

WoodysGirl said:

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Job interview answer.

DuncanIso said:

really?

does he even have Daks cell number?

You’d think he would call him first thing.

hey Dak. Coach here. Let’s talk ....

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Yeah, I'm not sure what the message being sent here is but it takes about a minute to text "Hey Dak. This is Mike McCarthy. I'm tied up with a lot of things but I'm looking forward to talking to you and working with you." Even if he did that, you could say that they had "communicated."

No communication is sending a message. I'm just not sure what.

Kwyn said:

Arguments against signing Dak are nothing more than message board hot takes

It is hard to find a franchise QB capable of winning a Super Bowl
It is extremely difficult to find a elite, top 5 QB

all of the people complaining about Dak conveniently ignore the reality of the QB talent pool and availability.

you can’t just say “no” to Dak and install the next Mahomes, Rodgers, Jackson. That’s fantasy-land

these are the same types of fans who argue for tanking and complete roster overhauls every year a team doesn’t win a championship. It’s just naive internet roster dreaming.

Dak will be the Cowboys QB. He will get a crazy contract because all QB’s in his situation get crazy contracts.

unless you want to just draft some random QB every year, and we’re not talking an elite top five prospect, then you should be happy we have a serviceable QB who is at least above average.

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Dak for $500k per year is really, really hard to replace. Dak for $35m per year is much easier to replace. Even if you get a mediocre quarterback, if you can do it for $5m then you have $30m to spend on the rest of the team, which is a massive amount of money.

Regardless, what makes Dak vulnerable is him wanting $35m+ per year to have the 10th best QB rating on an 8-8 team. If he wanted even $25m per year, this would have been done a long time ago.

And yeah, Wentz and Goff. Where are their teams right now?

Ranching said:

Daks at a Duke game with Garrett.

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That would be Romo & Witten...

CalPolyTechnique said:

I would definitely assign some of those drops on Dak depending on how a “drop” is defined.

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A drop is a drop. Hits wr in both hands and is considered a catchable ball. Thats why they get paid too

Here are the top free agent QB’s and their 2020 projected market value according to SpoTrac

Drew Brees - 36.5m
Tom Brady - 33.75m
Phillip Rivers - 27.5m
Teddy Bridgewater - 20.0m
Jameis Winston - 27.5m
Ryan Tannehill - 30.5m
Dak Prescott - 33m

Here are some others, some of whom might be in the bargain bin that some posters seem to prefer

Case Keenum
Colt McCoy
Blake Bortles
Matt Moore
Trevor Siemien

so, across this list, who do the Cowboys target?

if you want to argue that Brees or Brady are a better spend of 70-100m over the next three years, I suppose an argument could be made. Make your argument to either of them that they should leave where they are and come to Dallas.

And, of course, then, if you’re lucky enough to get three years out of them, you will find yourself without a QB once again because both are ancient.

I challenge any of those riding on the Dak hate train to post a viable alternative. There are few, if any, Dak supporters who are arguing that he’s a generational QB talent. We are arguing that there are few, I’d any, viable options to a Dak signing.

Now, if you’re a hot take message board GM, and you want to completely tear down and rebuild the entire roster, which means jettisoning Zeke, the entire O-Line, D-Law, etc., eating a hundred million in dead money, starting from scratch like the Bengals, tanking for a few years to find a #1 pick to draft the next Tom Brady, then by all means, propose away but you might consider posting a new thread in the Fantasy forum and not here in the FanZone

if you want to hate on Dak here, hate away but at least have the honesty to admit that you’re just hating to hate and don’t really have any good ideas to share

doomsday9084 said:

Dak for $500k per year is really, really hard to replace. Dak for $35m per year is much easier to replace. Even if you get a mediocre quarterback, if you can do it for $5m then you have $30m to spend on the rest of the team, which is a massive amount of money.

Regardless, what makes Dak vulnerable is him wanting $35m+ per year to have the 10th best QB rating on an 8-8 team. If he wanted even $25m per year, this would have been done a long time ago.

And yeah, Wentz and Goff. Where are their teams right now?

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This sums it all up! Dak is a bargain. Until he gets big money. This roster will be destroyed once Dak gets paid. And to make matters worse Jerry will probably focus the draft on oline and offense in the first 4 rounds leaving the defense just completely gutted. Yep that's what Dak brings to the table because he is not capable of carrying this team. He needs superior talent around him just to be average.

Hadenough said:

This sums it all up! Dak is a bargain. Until he gets big money. This roster will be destroyed once Dak gets paid. And to make matters worse Jerry will probably focus the draft on oline and offense in the first 4 rounds leaving the defense just completely gutted. Yep that's what Dak brings to the table because he is not capable of carrying this team. He needs superior talent around him just to be average.

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What’s your proposal? Who is our QB next year?

I posted a list of QB. Pick one and if they are less than 30m, tell me what you’ll do with the whopping 5m you save?

Playmaker247 said:

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This isn’t news so why try and make it so? I see you’ve caught a few though.

Here is Dak’s SpoTrac page. Lots of good info including comps

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/dallas-cowboys/dak-prescott-19089/market-value/

for those arguing that Dak only works for us when he’s making 600k, he’s currently the 74th highest paid QB in the league. I would love to see your lists of available QB’s making under a million that we can go get.

Fourth round QBs who can start in the NFL are few and far between. You have a more realistic chance to trade a third round pick for Mahomes. Let me know how that works out

lol not sure how this complete nonsense got to 6 pages but:
1. Dak is recharging after a long awful season and was close to JG. Last thing he wants is to be labeled the guy who was responsible for the coaching change the way he was once attacked for the Dez release.
2. MM has to move his family to Dallas and put together his staff.
Relax, losers.

Kwyn said:

What’s your proposal? Who is our QB next year?

I posted a list of QB. Pick one and if they are less than 30m, tell me what you’ll do with the whopping 5m you save?

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I haven't even looked at you list but I can tell you Rivers, Brees, Brady, even Tannehill have contracts that end. I would look for a stop gap for one year and pony up some 1st round picks for Trevor Lawrence. Might be best to roll with Keenum for a year. He is getting 7 mil from the Commanders. Just remember with Keenum you have everyone you want on this roster and with Dak at 32 mil you lose half you defensive line and Byron and maybe even Amari.

doomsday9084 said:

Yeah, I'm not sure what the message being sent here is but it takes about a minute to text "Hey Dak. This is Mike McCarthy. I'm tied up with a lot of things but I'm looking forward to talking to you and working with you." Even if he did that, you could say that they had "communicated."

No communication is sending a message. I'm just not sure what.

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ARodgers had problems with MM also.

Dont like this at all.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2828649-what-happened-in-green-bay

Hadenough said:

I haven't even looked at you list but I can tell you Rivers, Brees, Brady, even Tannehill have contracts that end. I would look for a stop gap for one year and pony up some 1st round picks for Trevor Lawrence. Might be best to roll with Keenum for a year. He is getting 7 mil from the Commanders. Just remember with Keenum you have everyone you want on this roster and with Dak at 32 mil you lose half you defensive line and Byron and maybe even Amari.

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Keenum is a free agent. Starting QB’s make a lot more than 7m, even spares like Keenum

but, let’s say you get Keenum for 20m. What will you do with that 12m? Sign one really good position player? You’d take that over Dak?

I don’t think so.

the others you mentioned are all on the list and all will cost as much as Dak

doomsday9084 said:

Dak for $500k per year is really, really hard to replace. Dak for $35m per year is much easier to replace. Even if you get a mediocre quarterback, if you can do it for $5m then you have $30m to spend on the rest of the team, which is a massive amount of money.

Regardless, what makes Dak vulnerable is him wanting $35m+ per year to have the 10th best QB rating on an 8-8 team. If he wanted even $25m per year, this would have been done a long time ago.

And yeah, Wentz and Goff. Where are their teams right now?

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true but he made 2mil last year LOL wasn't chump change..

he can shower Dak with pleasantries all he wants as does SJ and JJ but that does not mean hes getting 35, thats not the message..the message is we want you but at a team friendly deal sign the 30mil you were offered and lets move on..if Dak becomes the next Tom12 he can rework this deal I 3-4 years..win win

blueblood70 said:

true but he made 2mil last year LOL wasn't chump change..

he can shower Dak with pleasantries all he wants as does SJ and JJ but that does not mean hes getting 35, thats not the message..the message is we want you but at a team friendly deal sign the 30mil you were offered and lets move on..if Dak becomes the next Tom12 he can rework this deal I 3-4 years..win win

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But he doesn’t have to sign a team friendly deal.

he’s been underpaid every year in the league, why would he shortchange himself now?

the bottom line is that every big QB contract sets a new bar. It’s a waste of time to argue against it. Might as well get mad when it rains.

Cowboys only option other than sign him for the 32-33m it will take for a long term deal is to franchise him next year, and the year after, and pray like hell for some kind of 4th round miracle to happen a second time. Lightning striking twice and all

oh, and while we franchise him, expect for him to be unhappy and not report to camp each year because that’s what happens when you tell your starting QB that you don’t think they’re worth market price and franchise them.

Kwyn said:

Keenum is a free agent. Starting QB’s make a lot more than 7m, even spares like Keenum

but, let’s say you get Keenum for 20m. What will you do with that 12m? Sign one really good position player? You’d take that over Dak?

I don’t think so.

the others you mentioned are all on the list and all will cost as much as Dak

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The idea here is to use a cheap stop gap QB that is marginal to Dak. Keenum made 3.5 mil last season he would be happy with 6 mil.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/quarterback/
Its the Trevor Lawrence I would take on a rookie contract and would be willing to sacrifce a season without Dak to build on this team they have right now.

ESisback said:

If there’s nothing to fuss over, just make something up!

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That's the business that Jane is in. When was the last time you heard her do an in depth piece on X's & O's or schemes, etc.? She gives us the back room gossip.