News: PFT: Dak Prescott won't commit to showing up, if he's tagged

I know he was hurt and full pain killers but after the Eagles game it's hard for me to say sign him at any cost. The season was on the line and half of their defense was second and third stringers.

Honestly, I don't think I'd tag him at this point. I'd make a final contract offer, and if he doesn't want it, then just move on

If he were smart he would have held out last year as soon as Zeke got paid. The team would have had one week to cave.

ItzKelz said:

Heck no...Romo 2.0. Good QB that is never available because he is hurt.

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Romo was never available?!?
1)He was injured at the end of his career.
2)He took beatings Rodgers and Brady NEVER did!

Apologies, however. Didn’t wanna reanimate THAT dead horse!

SDCowboy said:

Honestly, I don't think I'd tag him at this point. I'd make a final contract offer, and if he doesn't want it, then just move on

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I like this line of thinking, however I’m not letting him go for free! He is good but not “name your price”good.

Tag him , and trade him for 2 first round picks .

Yes !

Doomsday101 said:

I'm not saying there are other reason. Steve Deberg career went the same way. However even when having the starting job he could never hold it. Fact is if he was that great he would not be a career backup, he would be able to hold the job but that has not been the case.

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Is it a fact? I mean, isn't that exactly the discussion with Dak? He's not good enough to carry a team over the hump but he is good enough to win with the right situation and cast around him, according to some. Isn't that exactly what is discussed on this board every day, over and over?

Look at Philly, that team was behind Foles over Wentz when Philly let him go, which is why they let him go IMO. To say that he "couldn't hold the job", I'm not so sure it's because of his skills or his talent. In Philly, I believe it was more about Management/Ownership and the investment in Wentz, more so then the talent or performance of Foles.

That's just my opinion Dooms. I know you maybe don't agree and that's OK but I'm pretty set on that. I just think a lot about QB is luck. The situation you are in or get drafted into makes a huge amount of difference IMO.

Dak is starting to get on my nerves with his "everything has to be my way" attitude he's developed......... Dak, I've been behind you since day one, but if you don't want to be here then go away.

SDCowboy said:

Honestly, I don't think I'd tag him at this point. I'd make a final contract offer, and if he doesn't want it, then just move on

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An interesting thought. Tag a money disgruntled QB and go 8-8 or cut bait and go 3-13 and get a great 1st round draft pick......I'll go with the latter

ABQCOWBOY said:

Is it a fact? I mean, isn't that exactly the discussion with Dak? He's not good enough to carry a team over the hump but he is good enough to win with the right situation and cast around him, according to some. Isn't that exactly what is discussed on this board every day, over and over?

Look at Philly, that team was behind Foles over Wentz when Philly let him go, which is why they let him go IMO. To say that he "couldn't hold the job", I'm not so sure it's because of his skills or his talent. In Philly, I believe it was more about Management/Ownership and the investment in Wentz, more so then the talent or performance of Foles.

That's just my opinion Dooms. I know you maybe don't agree and that's OK but I'm pretty set on that. I just think a lot about QB is luck. The situation you are in or get drafted into makes a huge amount of difference IMO.

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Dak clearly has those who see him that way. I'm not knocking Foles it is fact that anytime he has been named starter he has failed to produce. He has come in as a backup and done well and in 17 very well he has never been able to stake the claim as a full time starting QB, if he had he would not have bounced around as he has. Maybe Jacksonville will be that chance but at 31 coming off a so so start then missing the remainder of the season it is hard to say what Jags may do. I do agree that a vet QB is good to have and while it cost a bit more than a younger QB the experience they bring and ability to come in on a moments notice with limited reps is big for a team

Everything we read is speculation by the media, nothing more. Dak is smart to refuse to comment in any way because any comment leads to false reporting and innuendo.

If the tag is applied simply as a place-holder while the Jones continue to negotiate in good faith, working out the details of a contract that everyone is close on, I have no doubt Dak will show up and miss no time with the contract in sight. If the Jones boys fool around and actually try to get him to play on the tag and don't negotiate in a way that implies they want to work out a deal now, then all bets are off. Dak, like any player, then has to weigh what his agent says and do what's best for him.

Can't say that I don't blame the guy if Dak goes down that route. Franchise tags do more harm than good when it comes to players, regardless of the position.

I am glad someone finally asked him and he replied just as his agent instructed him to when the cards aren't on the table yet. DAL hasn't said that they'll use the tag and they've got Cooper and Jones to deal with as well.

There is no way in hell that Prescott will hold out, he knows it and they know it. No QB has ever held out without a new HC and offense being installed. He's going to stay away and waltz in before the regular season and think he'll be called a leader. And this is a QB with endorsements only because he's the DC QB. If he were to hold out with 26-33M for one season of football, he would be the most hated player in the NFL and most hated Cowboy of all time. It would be a public image suicide that he would not recover from and Cowboys fans are motivated enough to boycott his sponsors and let them know it. This is the guy that all he ever wanted was to be the Dallas Cowboys QB?

We don't know if it's the money or the term that's the hang up but can anyone blame the FO for trying to cover themselves against the next QB negotiation? When that 20M ceiling was hit, most thought it would take a great deal more time to break through the 30M one and it is already hovering at the 40M mark. The QB salary is runaway and far outpacing the cap increases.

This isn't just about the Cowboys and Prescott, if we think the entire ownership isn't watching this like hawks, think again. If a QB that isn't regarded in the top 5 by many and quite a few, not even in the top 10, can get the top dollar, what does that mean for the future?

The question I have is Prescott looking through his ego filter at himself and his worth? I read where he doesn't think he needs to be the top paid but he's got this little voice in his head, his agent's, that is selling him hard on his worth. I don't think many will fault a player for getting all he can from fat cats but this is different. There is a very good reason no QB has ever held out and no team has let it get that far. Not saying it won't happen one day but that will not happen with this player or this team.

This is nothing but tongue wagging when there's nothing to talk about.

Chuck 54 said:

Everything we read is speculation by the media, nothing more. Dak is smart to refuse to comment in any way because any comment leads to false reporting and innuendo.

If the tag is applied simply as a place-holder while the Jones continue to negotiate in good faith, working out the details of a contract that everyone is close on, I have no doubt Dak will show up and miss no time with the contract in sight. If the Jones boys fool around and actually try to get him to play on the tag and don't negotiate in a way that implies they want to work out a deal now, then all bets are off. Dak, like any player, had to weigh what his agent says and do what's best for him.

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I agree. Dak like any player in the league is going to take care of the business side of this game. Dak has never whined about money even as one of the lowest paid QB in the league. His agent is doing what he should which is trying to get the best deal he can for his client. Dak has not committed to showing up? He has not said he would not show either. Cowboys and Dak have until March 10 in terms of the franchise tag and I'm sure both parties would rather not go that route.

morasp said:

I know he was hurt and full pain killers but after the Eagles game it's hard for me to say sign him at any cost. The season was on the line and half of their defense was second and third stringers.

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Did you watch Cooper running routes in that game? Yet most of us want to resign him. We got out coached and out played in that game....it happens.

Doomsday101 said:

Dak clearly has those who see him that way. I'm not knocking Foles it is fact that anytime he has been named starter he has failed to produce. He has come in as a backup and done well and in 17 very well he has never been able to stake the claim as a full time starting QB, if he had he would not have bounced around as he has. Maybe Jacksonville will be that chance but at 31 coming off a so so start then missing the remainder of the season it is hard to say what Jags may do. I do agree that a vet QB is good to have and while it cost a bit more than a younger QB the experience they bring and ability to come in on a moments notice with limited reps is big for a team

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OK, I can see you don't want to just agree to disagree. Fair enough, tell me where he was named as starter and lets go ahead and discuss it.

CowboysRule said:

Dak will show up and he will play. If he doesn't, one of the backups will come out and show that any half-competent QB can win games in this offense and then Dak loses all leverage at anything long-term. That's why, if you noticed, Dak never comes out of games regardless of how injured he might be or how much we are winning/losing. Doesn't want anyone else to show they might be similar or even better.

It's the same thing we should've done with Zeke. Hopefully Jerry realizes the mistake.

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LOL biggest load of crap I've ever seen written.

Chuck 54 said:

Did you watch Cooper running routes in that game? Yet most of us want to resign him. We got out coached and out played in that game....it happens.

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Don't get me started on Cooper. I would say most people here want to re-sign him he's a pretty good QB and we don't have a lot of other options the price is the question. We also got outplayed, the players were as flat as I saw them all year the complete opposite of the first meeting.

This fan base really struggles with players after they get paid.

CowboyRoy said:

The issue with Jerry is that he doenst want to rock the boat. Did the same thing with Aikman. Zeke and Dak he seems to be doing the same thing and its definitely costing him in negotiations.

Fitz would be a great backup. Personally, I would prefer Dak, a backup like Fitz, and a talented young backup to develop. When the young guy is good enough to resume #2, then start the process over again.

And yah, that costs money and draft capital. Too important a position to do otherwise. Can always trade the young guy ala Garrappolo if he develops or trade Dak if he wants too much or otherwise.

You keep using the term "usually" and "other teams do this or that".

Why would I care what other teams do? Im talking about what the Cowboys should do.

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Again, how many teams are trying to rock the boat with what they feel is an established starting QB? Other than with an aging QB like Eli who is near the end and the team knows a replacement needs to be ready, that just isn't a common thing. So why treat it as a flaw with Jerry when when it's really just the nature of things with the majority f teams.

The reason you should care is only to have a realistic understanding of what is possible and how things work. Of course we would all love for the Cowboys to have a backup at every position that can step in without a dropoff, but history both with the Cowboys and other teams around the league tell us that between there being a limit on the number of players with that kind of talent, and a limit on salary cap space to pay that kind of talent, it just can't be done at every position. And that's especially true at the QB position where there aren't even enough quality starters for all 32 teams much less an abundance of quality backups that would allow teams to feel comfortable taking the risk of losing their incumbent starter.

I do, however, agree that we should be drafting QB's along the way, and hopefully one will step up and show something like Garoppolo did. But remember, Garappolo was a late 2nd round pick, and therefore really wasn't a sure thing he would be a strong as he was, plus, the Pats wouldnt have risked not having Brady because they had Garoppolo anyway. I also doubt the Pats would have used even that high a pick if Brady had been 30 instead of 37 at the time. The older the current QB, the more draft capital a team typically will use to try and cover themselves in case the starter gets hurt or retires.