103.3 just trashing Jerry

[BigDFan5]

No, the bigger offense was Switzer himself. He was a joke; a placeholder. In 2007, we're talking about attracting a quality hc candidate. Switzer has no place in that conversation.

oh so it is only bad when YOU decide it is good to know:laugh2:

 

[BlueDemon]

Listening to these Rednecks talk about the way we NY'ers talk is hysterical - some clown just asked what does "cusp" mean - are you serious?
I love this country but Country music, NASCAR, Red Neck Jokes, and Southern accents take it down a few notches.

 

[bbgun]

Wonder why he could not get it done in Miami then ......

Well, he vastly upgraded the talent base of that team in a very short period of time. In Dallas, he had the first pick waiting for him (Aikman) and then the benefits of the Walker trade. No such luck in Miami. And who was the 2006 NFL Defensive Player of the Year? None other than Jason Taylor. Gee, I wonder who drafted him ...

 

[bbgun]

No, you said Jerry didn't do anything special picking up Jimmy because anyone could have seen how great he was. That is the same logic as saying Johnson was nothing special with Aikman, Irvin, Smith etc because even you and I would have won with them, just tell them go out and play ball.

Dude, even Bum Bright would have been after Jimmy. He wasn't some obscure NFL coordinator that Jerry shrewdly unearthed. He was a highly-coveted championship coach at at elite program.

 

[zrinkill]

Well, he vastly upgraded the talent base of that team in a very short period of time. In Dallas, he had the first pick waiting for him (Aikman) and then the benefits of the Walker trade. No such luck in Miami. And who was the 2006 NFL Defensive Player of the Year? None other than Jason Taylor. Gee, I wonder who drafted him ...

I think Miami repeatedly went to the AFC championship before he got there ...... and never got beat by 70 points .....

His problems over there was no worse than the problems we had after he left and he failed miserably and retired from coaching .....

And we won another Superbowl.

but hey he upgraded the talent ..... kinda like what Bill did here.

 

[bbgun]

oh so it is only bad when YOU decide it is good to know:laugh2:

Yeah, 'cause you have all the answers.

 

[BigDFan5]

Yeah, 'cause you have all the answers.

nice comeback, shouldnt you be off burning cowboys gear?

 

[bbgun]

nice comeback, shouldnt you be off burning cowboys gear?

Shouldn't you be waxing Jerry's car? Doing his laundry? Excusing a decade's worth of mistakes?

 

[DizzG]

Huh? Jimmy gets all of the credit. Jerry just signed the checks, and that should be his sole role. He's a businessman, not a GM..

might want to read Jimmys book. bit more than that

 

[BigDFan5]

Shouldn't you be waxing Jerry's car? Doing his laundry? Excusing a decade's worth of mistakes?

Why would I do any of that? Unlike you I dont take extreme positions one way or another.

Its you who has the woe as me attitude that everything is wrong, and everyone is stupid everyone but you that is. You are the one voice of reason among all the mindless sheep


Or could it be that you are a pot stirring Skins fan? Because it stands to reason you arent a boys fan as can be evidenced in your post history

 

[SultanOfSix]

Wow. You guys still argue with bbgun and expect to get anywhere?

Isn't that like the :blind: leading the :blind:?

 

[silverbear]

Because unlike the vast army of Jerry sycophants on this board, they've been paying attention to his lengthy record of ruin and incompetence. Hiring the OC before your HC? Brilliant as usual.

One of these days, you're gonna make a valid point, and I'm gonna drop dead from shock...

Do pay attention, various sources around the NFL, people who should KNOW, say that these days it's just not all that unusual to hire a coordinator, even BOTH coordinators, before hiring your head coach...

Those morons on the radio are after ratings, and they get that by stirring controversy... IOW, they feed into the ignorance and raging paranoia of folks just like YOU...

 

[silverbear]

How dare he be an idiot and put the cart before the horse. The HC hires all assistants. Period. That's how it's done is competent, adult organizations. Otherwise, you're living in a banana republic.

LOL... when you get a ridiculous notion in that empty cranium, you just don't let it go, do ya??

I guess the Fins shouldn't have hired Dom Capers as defensive coordinator before hiring Cam Cameron as head coach... in fact, go to their website and look up all their coaches, and you'll find that Cameron hasn't hired ANYBODY yet, and will probably not hire more than 2 or 3 coaches for that staff...

And the Steelers basically insisted that Mike Tomlin keep Dick LeBeau, and the majority of the staff that Cowher left behind... or are you suggesting the Steelers are not a "competent, adult organization"??

If you get a chance to hire one of the better prospects out there, you do it, when you're the GM of a team searching for a coaching staff... you don't worry too much about what ORDER you hire them in, you jump on them when the opportunity presents itself...

Once again, you run your mouth without having the first clue what you're talking about... you seem to want to convince us that you're knowledgeable about football, but every time you go off on a rant like this, you prove just how completely SUPERFICIAL that knowledge is...

 

[wileedog]

Do pay attention, various sources around the NFL, people who should KNOW, say that these days it's just not all that unusual to hire a coordinator, even BOTH coordinators, before hiring your head coach...

Out of sheer curiosity, do we have any examples where its actually worked?

 

[silverbear]

Absolutely, esp the good ones. It's not like Garrett was already on the staff. Jerry went out and got him with no consideration for the feelings or needs of the next coach.

Given that you don't know who the next coach is, or what conversations have taken place with that coach, that's just you making a bunch of ASSUMPTIONS...

The problem is, those assumptions are filtered through your incredibly silly biases...

If the HC doesn't have the authority to pick his own players and coaches, then he has NO authority. He's a cipher. A sock puppet. An emasculated nobody.

Yeah, those Steelers, they don't have a CLUE how to run a franchise...

ROTFLMAO...

 

[hank2k]

One of these days, you're gonna make a valid point, and I'm gonna drop dead from shock...

Do pay attention, various sources around the NFL, people who should KNOW, say that these days it's just not all that unusual to hire a coordinator, even BOTH coordinators, before hiring your head coach...

Occaisionally a team will keep the same guy from the year before when the new head guy comes in like with Capers and LeBeau. It is VERY unusual for a different coordinator to be hired before the coach is hired.

Its so unusual in fact, no one has been able to tell me where its happened before.

 

[VA Cowboy]

Remember how everyone here trashed TO until he became a Cowboy?

I have a feeling most on here would feel the same way about Jerry as they do Danny Snyder and Al Davis if he weren't the Cowboys owner.

Some obviously can't think objectively when it's their own team.

 

[VA Cowboy]

It was just reported Garrett has not been named OC that his position will not be designated until a HC is named. Well looks like he is letting the HC decide what to do with him so much for your theory

So will the new HC have the option to not keep him?

 

[LatinMind]

Out of sheer curiosity, do we have any examples where its actually worked?

indianapolis colts

 

[wileedog]

The problem is, those assumptions are filtered through your incredibly silly biases...

I've fought bb tooth and nail and hundreds of occasions, but in this case he's right.

Certain franchises may be trying to find the 'hot' coordinator and superseding their HC in hiring them. But again, looking at the best teams over the past several years, do we have any evidence that hiring a coordinator before a HC is actually a more effective, or even as effective method as letting the HC bring in the people he is comfortable working with and who fit his coaching style?

I know everyone wants to paint this as bashing on Jerry, and with bbgun its easy to label it so, but honestly, wouldn't we all be laughing at Danny if the Commanders were doing this?