12 of 21 for 163 yards 1TD

[Audiman]

Exactly what do you think would be a reasonable expectation for those 21 attempts?

Tell us the stat line that would satisfy you -- ___ for 21, ____ yards, ___ touchdowns, ____ interceptions.

Just fill in the blanks.

ooo, a game!! I'll play!!

56 for 21, a gabillionty yards, 92 touchdowns, -7 interceptions.

 

[casmith07]

Romo has done just fine this Dec and the whole year. In fact, he is proving that THIS Cowboy's team is missing pieces to be a SB caliber team.

Last few season, we lay the blame on Romo. Now, by playing well, he is opening the eyes of the public. We are missing PLAYMAKERS.

I listened to talk radio and Colin Cowher is right. We are missing the "wow" players. Players that will make a crucial play at crucial times. Honestly, as much as I love Ware. I don't know if he is a WOW player. I remember the days of Haley. He makes plays when we need him. Demarcus gets neutralized. Maybe it's because of the scheme. Maybe we don't have another threat opposite him so he is easily double or triple teamed. Nevertheless, I don't see him dominate. Maybe I am too harsh on the guy or expect too much.

Let me just try to list our "wow" players:

Offense: Romo and Austin. Why isn't Felix starting is beyond me? What are we saving him for??? I want to see what he can do with more touches.

Defense: Ware?, Jenkins?

You're crazy if you don't think Ware is a wow player. Opponents have been negating his "wow" factor by doubling/tripling him all year. He also hasn't been right since the first series of the first game -- that initial concussion and neck strain really put a damper on him.

 

[btcutter]

You're crazy if you don't think Ware is a wow player. Opponents have been negating his "wow" factor by doubling/tripling him all year. He also hasn't been right since the first series of the first game -- that initial concussion and neck strain really put a damper on him.

Again, I love Demarcus and believe he's a PLAYER.

Read everything. I did write that perhaps its the scheme or we didn't have someone else to help alleviate other team double team him.

....but.....WHEN was the last IMPACT (changed the game/outcome) play you remember that Ware made? regardless of circumstance. Unfortunately, I don't recall any this year.

 

[Audiman]

Again, I love Demarcus and believe he's a PLAYER.

Read everything. I did write that perhaps its the scheme or we didn't have someone else to help alleviate other team double team him.

....but.....WHEN was the last IMPACT (changed the game/outcome) play you remember that Ware made? regardless of circumstance. Unfortunately, I don't recall any this year.

this year, he's been mostly double/triple teamed. kinda hard to make an impact when trying to take on 2-3 guys.

 

[btcutter]

this year, he's been mostly double/triple teamed. kinda hard to make an impact when trying to take on 2-3 guys.

So you don't remember either.

Harrison, Freeney, Allen faces double teams. Ware is not alone. It's the price of becoming a very good player. To become "IMPACT", you need to make plays despite having more road blocks than others.

 

[Da Hammer]

Romo was average yesterday. His game looked better at the end when the chargers stopped blitzing the final drive and basically played prevent. I don't blame him for the loss but he certainly wasnt a bright spot. O-line was pitiful though they certainly deserve as big a blame as anyone on this team. Especially in the redzone its like they just shut down... beyond pathetic! Also crayton is a huge waste, he just might be as slow as witten. but unlike witten who is obviously a TE he never gets any type of seperation.

 

[birdwells1]

let's use the whole game, shall we?

Romo - 19/30 for 249yds, 2 TDs, 0 INTS, 111.7 rating
Rivers - 21/32 for 272yds, 1 TD, 1 INT, 89.6 rating

again, how is this Romo's fault?

All of Rivers stats were accumalated when the game mattered most, not against a prevent defense.
Ok lets compare stats when the game counted.

Romo- 12/21 for 163, 1td, 0 ints
Rivers- 21/32 for 272, 1td, 1int

 

[birdwells1]

Romo was average yesterday. His game looked better at the end when the chargers stopped blitzing the final drive and basically played prevent. I don't blame him for the loss but he certainly wasnt a bright spot. O-line was pitiful though they certainly deserve as big a blame as anyone on this team. Especially in the redzone its like they just shut down... beyond pathetic! Also crayton is a huge waste, he just might be as slow as witten. but unlike witten who is obviously a TE he never gets any type of seperation.

This is all I'm saying. He wasn't bad but he wasn't good either like some claim he was. Some are saying "you can't blame Romo for this" like he couldn't play better.

 

[birdwells1]

So you don't remember either.

Harrison, Freeney, Allen faces double teams. Ware is not alone. It's the price of becoming a very good player. To become "IMPACT", you need to make plays despite having more road blocks than others.

I agree, Haley was double teamed to. If you're going to be recognized as one of the tops at your position your going to have to work through those type of obsticles.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

So you don't remember either.

Harrison, Freeney, Allen faces double teams. Ware is not alone. It's the price of becoming a very good player. To become "IMPACT", you need to make plays despite having more road blocks than others.

I agree for the most part except that I doubt, very seriously, given the other guys around them that Harrison or Allen face a ton of double teams.

There is simply no way they're doubling both the Williams in the middle of the defense and Allen in Minny on every play. Allen is a great player who absolutely benefits from the fact that he often gets the benefit of one on one situations cause you have no choice but to double those two DTs in the middle or you QBs pocket would be destroyed. Allen probably gets just as many one on ones as he does double teams and its probably very rare for him to see a triple team.


Harrison probably gets doubled now and again, like Allen, but with the other guys around him they're simply not focusing all double teams on Harrison and they're certainly not looking to triple team him.


Ware most likely faces a double team on the vast majority of our plays that he's rushing because he's the only guy whose proven to be a consistent pass rusher that teams absolutely have to worry about getting to their QB multiple times a game. Ratliff has helped with that a bit but when all you have to worry about is Ware and Ratliff getting to you on a regular basis it makes it a whole heck of a lot easier to simply game plan those two out of it.

 

[Audiman]

All of Rivers stats were accumalated when the game mattered most, not against a prevent defense.
Ok lets compare stats when the game counted.

Romo- 12/21 for 163, 1td, 0 ints
Rivers- 21/32 for 272, 1td, 1int

all stats in a game matter. also, how do you know they were playing in a "prevent" defense?

also, we ran the ball for an entire ****** drive. that should probably account for something.

try using logic when you're trying to argue a point. I heard it helps...

 

[ScipioCowboy]

All of Rivers stats were accumalated when the game mattered most, not against a prevent defense.
Ok lets compare stats when the game counted.

Romo- 12/21 for 163, 1td, 0 ints
Rivers- 21/32 for 272, 1td, 1int

Based upon the numbers you provided, we can calculate the following ratings:

Romo: 97.0 QB rating
Rivers: 89.6 QB rating

Based on your numbers, it doesn't seem quarterback play was the difference "when the game counted".

 

[Monster Heel]

Based upon the numbers you provided, we can calculate the following ratings:

Romo: 97.0 QB rating
Rivers: 89.6 QB rating

Based on your numbers, it doesn't seem quarterback play was the difference "when the game counted".

Too bad QB Rating is a garbage stat.

Rivers had a higher YPA and completion percentage. Despite the interception, he out passed Tony Romo.

 

[birdwells1]

Based upon the numbers you provided, we can calculate the following ratings:

Romo: 97.0 QB rating
Rivers: 89.6 QB rating

Based on your numbers, it doesn't seem quarterback play was the difference "when the game counted".

Hey what would be the qb rating for 4-6 for 30yards and 1 td. You probably wont tell me because it's pretty high. If your qb had these numbers would you say he had a great game? Look I absolved Romo for the Giants game because he had a great game but y'all are acting like he had two of those games in a row. Just try calling it like you see it, he was average at best when it counted.

Forget ratings give me Rivers' 274 yards when it counted. That means he's moving his team down the field, so with those ratings do you think Romo had a better game than him?

 

[ScipioCowboy]

Hey what would be the qb rating for 4-6 for 30yards and 1 td. You probably wont tell me because it's pretty high. If your qb had these numbers would you say he had a great game? Look I absolved Romo for the Giants game because he had a great game but y'all are acting like he had two of those games in a row. Just try calling it like you see it, he was average at best when it counted.

If those numbers (4-6 for 30 yards with 1 TD) constituted my quartback's stat line for an entire game, I would assume he was injured fairly early in the contest. Consequently, I would rightfully assert he was having a great game prior to his injury.

Forget ratings give me Rivers' 274 yards when it counted. That means he's moving his team down the field, so with those ratings do you think Romo had a better game than him?

I now see the root fallacy in your reasoning: yardage is your sole criteria for assessing a quarterback's performance.

 

[khiladi]

I now see the root fallacy in your reasoning: yardage is your sole criteria for assessing a quarterback's performance.

He must be a Garrett fan... :laugh2:

 

[Audiman]

Forget ratings give me Rivers' 274 yards when it counted. That means he's moving his team down the field, so with those ratings do you think Romo had a better game than him?

not sure if you were watching the same game I did, but I didn't see us having much trouble moving the ball down the field. I did see, however, Folk miss a very makeable field goal and Barber get stood up three times at the 1 yard line.

also, you're not taking into account the long drive where we ran the ball most of that drive.

nice try, but goodbye. come back and try again when you know what you're talking about.

 

[cowboys4life08]

When those points give you a shot to win at the end the game is not over. Of course if you're a loser and quit just because you don't believe you can get 10 points in the final few minutes of a game then I guess games like that are over.

But anytime you score a TD and it gives you a shot to get an onside kick to try to tie or win a game then it's not over.

By your standards over the last few years then Dallas shouldn't count the Buffalo win, the Detriot win and the come from behinds against the Cards and the Ravens that were also very nearly one those drives shouldn't have counted either because you'd already given up and decided the game was over.

Really Buffalo, Detroit, Cardinals and the Ravens!! Come on if you really liked those come from behind wins then you are very easy to please. The Cowboys should blow out those teams. With the exception of the Ravens which has never had a real QB all the good and great teams destroy the weaker teams.

 

[percyhoward]

I now see the root fallacy in your reasoning: yardage is your sole criteria for assessing a quarterback's performance.

And Romo's not lacking in the yardage department anyway. He's actually on pace for a career high in yardage, surpassing 2007.

 

[utrunner07]

yet you conviently left out his final drive where he got them into the endzone again and gave them a shot to kick the onside to try and tie or win the game.

Get real.