3-4 defense and the new coordinator

[TheRunningMan]

He runs a base 3-4 under. Everybody has nickel packages and that is going to be the majority defense due to spread offenses.

I am pretty sure i have watched more Vic Fangio games and defenses than you sir. He does not run a 3-4 under regardless of what Chat GP and Google told you.

 

[thunderpimp91]

I am pretty sure i have watched more Vic Fangio games and defenses than you sir. He does not run a 3-4 under regardless of what Chat GP and Google told you.

You can pull any eagles game from this year and you’ll see plenty of odd front looks.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Clowney is more of a depth, rotational guy at this point

Well i agree but if we are.transitioning to 3-4 we need two OLB that can rush from.either side. He also played 3-4 before. Until we get the other rusher.

And with him it would be easy to show a 4-3 and switch to 3-4 and vice versa by shifting the players along the line

 

[TwentyOne]

I read in one of the threads that the new DC will run a 3-4. How would that work for us?

Osa and Clark at DE? WIlliams in the middle. Or will Clowney play DE(assuming we resign him). EZE at OLB? Justin Houston OLB? Or would Overshown be an OLB?

Any ideas?

Doesnt matter at all.

NFL teams play different defenses 95% of the time. Nobody sticks to their base defense anymore. Its just an paper-tiger.

Offenses are way to flexible to be defended by pure 3-4 or 4-3 defenses. Just look at McVay. First he came up with 3 splits now he floods you with 3 TEs. You cant counter such quick changes with inflexibility.

Thats why i loved quinns approach with alot of hybrid ss/lb type players and essentially no pure lb (well ok, maybe one).

One reason why eberflus and the other idiot werent successful here. They were oldschool coaches with the need of certain player archetypes. But our defensive roster still consists of quinn players.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Fans talking running a 3-4 with this line of linebackers we have

Yes but who says we are going to use the linebackers that we have? I say get rid of all of them except Overshown. You'll have to do that anyways even with a 4-3.

 

[speedkilz88]

I am pretty sure i have watched more Vic Fangio games and defenses than you sir. He does not run a 3-4 under regardless of what Chat GP and Google told you.

Everybody says it except you who doesn't know ****.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Some things I have seen online about what to expect from Christian Parker assuming he stays true to his Fangio roots:

1. Lots of cover two high coverage (both safeties deep), but with "rotating zones". This means a quarterback can read a cover two look that is really a cover three, or a cover three that is really a cover one, and so on.

2. Five man fronts, but with a twist. In many ways the five man front in a Fangio defense is often a variation of the 3-3-5 scheme. The Cowboys will mix and match pieces in this front; perhaps using Donovan Ezeiruaku as a stand up rush linebacker. There will be three DT's similar to what Dallas briefly used this season after picking up Quinnen Williams, but it will be nowhere near as static as what Eberflus used. It is difficult to read where the pressure will come from pre-snap because the lineup does not overload one side of the other.

3. Simulated pressure. When the Cowboys showed a blitz look in 2025, they usually blitzed. They almost never backed out of it and this made it painfully easy for opposing offenses. The Cowboys only simulated pressure 8 percent of the time last season under Eberflus. By comparison, the Eagles used sim pressure nearly 38 percent of the time.

4. More press man coverage. No team uses press man or zone exclusively, but the Cowboys were at the extreme end of not using man- between just 4 to 8 percent of the time depending on who's stats you read. The Eagles with Parker/Fangio were over 28 percent pure press man. Again the numbers vary depending on the source, but let's just say the Cowboys were way too zone heavy (something we knew for a long time).

 

[conner01]

Well i agree but if we are.transitioning to 3-4 we need two OLB that can rush from.either side. He also played 3-4 before. Until we get the other rusher.

And with him it would be easy to show a 4-3 and switch to 3-4 and vice versa by shifting the players along the line

I’m not so sure we will be running a lot of 3/4. I think we will use multiple fronts including the 5 man front we used so this year. Clowney can still plsy but he’s not a guy you can use to much. He only played in 13 of our games and played 44% of snaps. He will likely plsy less if he played a full seasons games. I’d bring him back for sure but he’s not a guy you want playing excessive number of snaps

 

[CharlotteShawDriver]

i want them to sign in FA Dre'Mont Jones

Dre'mont Jones? Never heard of him

 

[ConstantReboot]

Vic Fangio runs Nickel with 2 high safeties to force short throws and limit explosive plays. He doesnt run a 3 - 4.

You can still run a 3-4 with nickel coverage. Both Patriots and Denver uses a 3-4 or 3-3 with a two deep cover shell.

 

[TheRunningMan]

You can still run a 3-4 with nickel coverage. Both Patriots and Denver uses a 3-4 or 3-3 with a two deep cover shell.

Ok I asked the robots aka Google. And they said he runs 3-4 personnel with 4-3 principals.

*shrug emoji

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[beware_d-ware]

Ok I asked the robots aka Google. And they said he runs 3-4 personnel with 4-3 principals.

*shrug emoji

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That's basically how every odd-front team has operated since about 2010. Wade Phillips was calling a one-gap 3-4 in Dallas 20 years ago, and his dad was calling a one-gap 3-4 in Houston 30 years before that.

The two-gap 3-4 is dead. If you are only going to rush four defenders against say Patrick Mahomes, it's too hard to pressure him if three of those defenders are playing contain.

 

[atlantacowboy]

I read in one of the threads that the new DC will run a 3-4. How would that work for us?

Osa and Clark at DE? WIlliams in the middle. Or will Clowney play DE(assuming we resign him). EZE at OLB? Justin Houston OLB? Or would Overshown be an OLB?

Any ideas?

Clowney needs to be re-signed first. He can sign with anyone now. He is a natural 3-4 OLB. The problem is that we don't have a legit 3-4 NT. That needs to be a 340 lb behemoth in the middle. I guess Clark is the closest we got. Overshown bc of his skinny lower body doesn't really fit any 3-4 mold. Can't put him on the DL with his hand in the dirt. My guess is that he would be put at OLB for lack of a better spot.

 

[blueblood70]

Everybody says it except you who doesn't know ****.

I believe you're arguing with a closet Eagles fan here Apparently, he's battling like he knows them well,

I got another guy to block you know you are not going to get this guy to be quiet....

He also doesn't understand that just because he's learned under three different defensive coordinators that he's just gonna run the same exact thing he should be taking from all of them and he'll find his own way he'll create his own scheme that fits this roster year one the best it can and yes they should run multiples they all run multiples unless your name is matt eberfluous maybe.lol.

 

[quickccc]

I read in one of the threads that the new DC will run a 3-4. How would that work for us?

Osa and Clark at DE? WIlliams in the middle. Or will Clowney play DE(assuming we resign him). EZE at OLB? Justin Houston OLB? Or would Overshown be an OLB?

Any ideas?

DE- Williams
NT- Clarke
DE- Osa

OLB- Donovan Zke
MLB- Marist
MLB- Overshown
OLB - Clowney

i keep in mind that this Parker scheme will be a similar version of Vic Fangio .. 3 man base, but plenty of uneven, overload and hybrid,multi-looks
that won't be same as a traditional 3-4 such as what the Steelers run .

https://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/PHI

 

[shabazz]

I got another guy to block you know you are not going to get this guy to be quiet....

Bragging about blocking people is perhaps the lamest thing to do on this site.

You can't read it because I'm blocked, so just keep your head in the sand and keep imagining that the only opinions that count are ones you agree with.

 

[ConstantReboot]

If we are switching to a 3-4 the two best outside linebackers will be Sam Houston and D. Ezeiraku. I don't think that Clowney is a fit for the 3-4 system.

 

[speedkilz88]

If we are switching to a 3-4 the two best outside linebackers will be Sam Houston and D. Ezeiraku. I don't think that Clowney is a fit for the 3-4 system.

 

[Stash]

If we are switching to a 3-4 the two best outside linebackers will be Sam Houston and D. Ezeiraku. I don't think that Clowney is a fit for the 3-4 system.

Clowney has played in the 3-4 multiple times.

 

[Rayman70]

No matter what we run, you better have capable players, mentally and physically. If not, the results won't be good. We need guys that are able to be quick studies and have no selfish qualities. We been too focused on star power , top heavy defensively. We never have a true team of try hard jessies. I am praying this is the culture being built. I'm willing to wait, take our lumps.