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ChldsPlay;3081579 said:
They saw the ball come out, and it was ruled a fumble that was recovered by Scandrick. Scandrick was ruled down by contact though.

Okay, thanks. For some reason I was under the impression that they blew the play dead when he was sacked.

Makes the Jenkins penalty even more painful. :(
 

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AdamJT13;3081621 said:
The Rulebook says it's a 15-yard penalty. I have no idea why the refs didn't call it.


Section 9 Instant Replay


The League will employ a system of Referee Replay Review to aid officiating for reviewable plays as defined below. Prior to the two-minute warning of each half, a Coaches’ Challenge System will be in effect. After the two-minute warning of each half, and throughout any overtime period, a Referee Review will be initiated by a Replay Assistant from a Replay Booth comparable to the location of the coaches’ booth or Press Box. The following​

procedures will be used:​


Coaches’ Challenge. In each game, a team will be permitted two challenges that will initiate Referee Replay reviews. Each challenge will require the use of a team timeout. If a challenge is upheld, the time out will be restored to the challenging team. A challenge will only be restored if a team is successful on both of its challenges, in which case it shall be awarded a third challenge, but a fourth challenge will not be permitted under any circumstances. No challenges will be recognized from a team that has exhausted its time outs. A team that is out of time outs or has used all of its available challenges may not attempt to initiate an additional challenge.​


Penalty: For initiating a challenge when all of a team’s time outs have been exhausted or when all of its available challenges have been used: Loss of 15 yards.

So the refs forgot the rule or chose not to enforce it. You gotta love playing on the road in the NFL!!!
 

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AdamJT13;3081621 said:
The Rulebook says it's a 15-yard penalty. I have no idea why the refs didn't call it.


Section 9 Instant Replay

The League will employ a system of Referee Replay Review to aid officiating for reviewable plays as defined below. Prior to the two-minute warning of each half, a Coaches’ Challenge System will be in effect. After the two-minute warning of each half, and throughout any overtime period, a Referee Review will be initiated by a Replay Assistant from a Replay Booth comparable to the location of the coaches’ booth or Press Box. The following
procedures will be used:

Coaches’ Challenge. In each game, a team will be permitted two challenges that will initiate Referee Replay reviews. Each challenge will require the use of a team timeout. If a challenge is upheld, the time out will be restored to the challenging team. A challenge will only be restored if a team is successful on both of its challenges, in which case it shall be awarded a third challenge, but a fourth challenge will not be permitted under any circumstances. No challenges will be recognized from a team that has exhausted its time outs. A team that is out of time outs or has used all of its available challenges may not attempt to initiate an additional challenge.

Penalty: For initiating a challenge when all of a team’s time outs have been exhausted or when all of its available challenges have been used: Loss of 15 yards.
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We got flat out raped by the officials today. That was some of the worst home-cooking I have seen in a while.

The one official smiling after blowing the call against Dallas told me all I needed to know, there was no way in hell the refs were going to let Green Bay lose today.

Now that doesnt mean we didnt play like dog crap, because we certainly did. I am just saying that when the home team is getting "help" from the officials it is dam hard to come away with a W.
 

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peplaw06;3080034 said:
The Packers still had 10-12 penalties or something, so I'm not gonna say it was fixed. But they probably could have had 20. That porous OL was holding on every pass play, and Spears was held on Grant's longest run of the day IIRC. If GB was flagged for every penalty they had tonight the game would still be going.

The refs were just flat out awful though.

I didn't think the refereeing was biased. But between the ticky-tack calls, the necessary holding penalties, and all the challenges, it made for a really bad game to watch. It was no wonder neither team could get into a groove offensively sitting and 2nd and 20 all afternoon.
 

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The NFL needs to be under investigation. I really think besides the NBA referee, the NFL referees is also shading points. Come on now, me as a fan knew that Packers used all of their challenges (one good, one bad) but overall they were used and it's the referees job to know.

Now, I don't know what was the deal with the Felix Jones thing either, but I believe something fishy is going on in the NFL.
 

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RealCowboyfan;3081663 said:
The NFL needs to be under investigation. I really think besides the NBA referee, the NFL referees is also shading points.

I wouldn't have thought that possible until I read the excerpts from Tim Donaghy's book a few weeks ago. I thought there might be some rogue NFL referee caught up in gambling, but Donaghy's allegations -- if true -- of the things the NBA and its referees do are frightening to think about, if they happen in the NFL, too. And they have nothing to do with gambling on games.
 

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AdamJT13;3081669 said:
I wouldn't have thought that possible until I read the excerpts from Tim Donaghy's book a few weeks ago. I thought there might be some rogue NFL referee caught up in gambling, but Donaghy's allegations -- if true -- of the things the NBA and its referees do are frightening to think about, if they happen in the NFL, too. And they have nothing to do with gambling on games.

Something to do with the league enhancing viewership and/or revenue, I imagine? I don't think I want to know how that sausage is made, if it's really a sausage.
 

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Idgit;3081674 said:
Something to do with the league enhancing viewership and/or revenue, I imagine? I don't think I want to know how that sausage is made, if it's really a sausage.

You can't tell me, the events that took place today convince you. It's things I seen before this game in others games it happens. Why do you think the NFL fines coaches and players that comments on the referees?

The NFL don't want their sorry officiating to be put on display...
 

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Terry McAulay is supposed to be one of the best refs around (gulp), but not even considering things called or not called on the field, he screwed up three things with review today. Incompentance....

But the NFL likes its system of part time refs. And they never want to admit how many mistakes they make. Everything goes under the rug as much as possible.
 

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Idgit;3081674 said:
Something to do with the league enhancing viewership and/or revenue, I imagine? I don't think I want to know how that sausage is made, if it's really a sausage.

Among other things. Some of it was just the refs making up their own "games" to play, like the first one to call a technical foul would win money from the other refs, or whoever called the first foul would have to buy all of the other refs dinner, etc. -- things that would make them intentionally ignore or not enforce the actual rules of the game. But yes, a lot of it involved the league wanting a certain result and assigning certain refs (one in particular) to make sure that it happened.
 

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I mean it stopped play, took extra seconds off the clock, we just snapped the ball and the whistle blows, shouldn't it had been a delay a game penalty or something?
 

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AdamJT13;3081697 said:
Among other things. Some of it was just the refs making up their own "games" to play, like the first one to call a technical foul would win money from the other refs, or whoever called the first foul would have to buy all of the other refs dinner, etc. -- things that would make them intentionally ignore or not enforce the actual rules of the game. But yes, a lot of it involved the league wanting a certain result and assigning certain refs (one in particular) to make sure that it happened.

The NBA is as crooked as a snake, that is why I refuse to attend any NBA games. Occasionally I will watch a Spurs game on TV if nothing else is on, but there is no doubt in my mind that the games are borderline fixed. You actually think Donaghue is the only NBA ref that was betting on games???

So if the NBA is crooked, you dont think the NFL might have some issues also with its officiating? Do you know how many millions and millions of dollars are bet on NFL games? You dont think that might influence a referee to make a bogus call here or there to "help" one team over another?

Sorry to say, but the NFL has a shady side also that nobody in the media or the league would dare talk about.
 

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Q_the_man;3081701 said:
I mean it stopped play, took extra seconds off the clock, we just snapped the ball and the whistle blows, shouldn't it had been a delay a game penalty or something?

Yes, it should have been a 15-yard penalty. There already have been several threads about it, but I think they've all been merged into one.
 

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Q_the_man;3081701 said:
I mean it stopped play, took extra seconds off the clock, we just snapped the ball and the whistle blows, shouldn't it had been a delay a game penalty or something?

The refs either didnt know the rule (total incompetence) or the refs just decided to ignore it. (its called home cooking).

Either way, we got screwed and it happened all day not just on this play.
 

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Worst officiated game I have ever seen all around, and that is saying something because I have seen some real travesties in my time. Some members of the crew should be fired. Seriously, fired.
 

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Worst officiating for a long time? Yes! A fix? No!
I doubt that this crew was able of fixing a game. They couldn't even count to three. Don't get lost in these kinds of theories. They had a very bad day, probably their worst ever and we got the short end of the deal.
 

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Anyone surprised doesn't know who Triplett is. He's a ****ing moron. He's the guy who hit Orlando Brown in the eye with a flag, ending his career.

A few buddies and I used to have a running joke that Triplett would cause whatever team you were rooting for to lose.

No shocker he was clueless all ****ing day,

Wonder what Periera has to say. Odds are he doesn't touch the issue about not flaggin the Pack for challenging when they were out of challenges.
 

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What I don't understand is why didn't our coaches make a stink? Why didn't our players make a stink? Why didn't the announcers say anything? It just went completely ignored.
 

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Is there a RULE that dictates a penalty for that guys? NOt that i know of....but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I would say the ref crew should know the rules but they didn't even know like we did that GBay was out of "challenges" . ___________ them.
 
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