3 of 4 QBs left still on Rookie deal

[Szczepanik]

I’d take Kyler over Dak all day. At least Kyler is a playmaker. If anything Kyler is asked to do way too much.

No one on the team likes Kyler. All the FAs left him as soon as they could. He mouths off to his coach, and Hopkins. Kyle is a team cancer

 

[CATCH17]

But you'd pay Kyler Murray, right?

Kyler went 3-8 this year (25-31-1 for his career), and you say he's better than Dak.

AND I'M THE IGNORANT ONE? LOLLLLLLL

Did I say I’d pay Kyler?

Why are you pay Dak guys so dumb? Like for real I say one thing and you start making these straw man arguments.

Kyler and Dak are in completely different situations. Dak is playing in a optimal environment where as Kyler is surrounded by garbage.

 

[Yoshimitsu]

I’d take Kyler over Dak all day. At least Kyler is a playmaker. If anything Kyler is asked to do way too much.

You'd be saying the same things about him as Dak. Hard pass. I'd rather not give the keys to a guy who would rather play call of duty than win games.

 

[CATCH17]

You'd be saying the same things about him as Dak. Hard pass. I'd rather not give the keys to a guy who would rather play call of duty than win games.

Well we know he isn’t an elite QB so if you pay him you’re just as screwed with him as you are with Dak.

I do think the way we are built that Kylers ability to run around and extend plays would be more lethal than Dak’s ability to just play from the pocket.

 

[khiladi]

If Dak wasn’t on the Cowboys, he’d be around the bottom 20 QBs… Moore makes him look better than he actually is.

 

[Nav22]

Did I say I’d pay Kyler?

Why are you pay Dak guys so dumb? Like for real I say one thing and you start making these straw man arguments.

Kyler and Dak are in completely different situations. Dak is playing in a optimal environment where as Kyler is surrounded by garbage.

You're the clown who said a 25-31-1 QB (3-8 this year) is better than Dak.

Poor Kyler only has DeAndre Hopkins, Hollywood Brown, Zach Ertz and James Conner! WAAAAH!!!!

You're the clown who said Daniel Jones is just as good as Dak.

NFL players, coaches, scouts and execs will rank QBs again this offseason. We'll see exactly how much of a know-nothing clown THEY all think YOU are.


QBs in the top 10 generally get paid. Only a complete idiot would argue that teams are better off trying to find the next Patrick Mahomes year after year, as if those guys grow on trees.

Hey, the Chargers aren't good enough around Justin Herbert, right? His overall W/L record is trash and he hasn't sniffed the divisional round in 3 seasons as their starter, on a rookie deal. Should they pay him???????

 

[CATCH17]

You're the clown who said a 25-31-1 QB (3-8 this year) is better than Dak. Poor Kyler only has DeAndre Hopkins, Zach Ertz and James Conner! WAAAAH!!!!

You're the clown who said Daniel Jones is just as good as Dak.

NFL players, coaches, scouts and execs will rank QBs again this offseason. We'll see exactly how much of a know-nothing clown THEY all think YOU are.


QBs in the top 10 generally get paid. Only a complete idiot would argue that teams are better off trying to find the next Patrick Mahomes year after year, as if those guys grow on trees.

If Cooper Rush can get Dak like results within our system than so can Kyler Murray and Daniel Jones.

So yes I’m right and the NFL teams who pay these guys and lock themselves into mediocrity are wrong.

The Dallas Cowboys and every clown who said to pay Dak were WRONG and CATCH17 Was right.

3 of 4 QBs still playing on their rookie deal.

I just keep getting it right and you keep getting it wrong even though it constantly plays out like this.

 

[Blitzen]

Good thing Dak's not making "elite money" then!

QBs cost what they cost.

If your plan is "draft the next Mahomes, and if you don't, keep tanking and trying every few years," that's how you become a 5-win laughingstock every year.

It isn’t an either or situation. Quit being ridiculous. The reason there are teams that have those issues are because of zero continuity. They fire the management and coaching staff every few years and people blame it on the young QB drafted that has basically zero chance.

There are reasons why Washington’s offense looks bad that goes way beyond the QB. The offensive line is poor and they could use a more dynamic running game and playcaller. Purdy, Rush, Geno Smith are basically proving you don’t need a “franchise” QB. You can get by with dominant lines of scrimmage and a QB that doesn’t turn the ball over and makes the easy reads without crapping the bed.

 

[CowboyFrog]

We aren’t “almost there” we are an elite defense. That’s what elite modern day defense looks like.

Our QB screwed it up. Stop blaming the defense.

Who blamed the defense? try and stay on point, if they go cheap at QB then they need better DT's and WR and for sure never pay an RB with money that should go to the OL and DL...this FO has not shown that kind of direction yet.

 

[Nav22]

If Cooper Rush can get Dak like results within our system than so can Kyler Murray and Daniel Jones.

So yes I’m right and the NFL teams who pay these guys and lock themselves into mediocrity are wrong.

The Dallas Cowboys and every clown who said to pay Dak were WRONG and CATCH17 Was right.

3 of 4 QBs still playing on their rookie deal.

I just keep getting it right and you keep getting it wrong even though it constantly plays out like this.

Hey, the Chargers aren't good enough around Justin Herbert, right? His overall W/L record is trash and he hasn't sniffed the divisional round in 3 seasons as their starter, on a rookie deal.

He has terrific weapons with Austin Ekeler, Keenan Allen, Mike Williams and Gerald Everett.

Should they pay Herbert???????

 

[CATCH17]

Who blamed the defense? try and stay on point, if they go cheap at QB then they need better DT's and WR and for sure never pay an RB with money that should go to the OL and DL...this FO has not shown that kind of direction yet.

I’m just saying.. Our defense for this era of football is elite.

Elite DTs are more rare than QBs.

 

[Blitzen]

no war. Thats laughable and ridiculous. Let kyler play without a Run game and weak OL..

once again our OL got man handled and that why we lost IMO., sure Dak INTs didn't help but qbs all of them tend to try and make plays when they feel that all there is on offense is try and make plays that might not be there..not letting dak completely off the hook but our offense against the rams 18, 21 9ers, and now this 9ers game our OL did NOT show up with a run game.. each loss no run game and very little time to throw.. its pretty obvious that's the bigger issue.

need more physical LG and either Steele back or new RT.. Tyron and Peters are older and cannot be counted on but more for depth swing guys next season.

That’s pathetic. The offensive line provided outstanding pass blocking and did okay (not great) against the top defensive front playing. Dak had plenty of chances and coughed the ball up. He played like trash and cost the team the game.

 

[CATCH17]

Hey, the Chargers aren't good enough around Justin Herbert, right? His overall W/L record is trash and he hasn't sniffed the divisional round in 3 seasons as their starter, on a rookie deal.

He has terrific weapons with Austin Ekeler, Keenan Allen, Mike Williams and Gerald Everett.

Should they pay Herbert???????

32 of 32 GMs would take Herbert over Dak because he is an elite player with elite talent.

Stop comparing Dak to clearly elite players.

 

[thunderpimp91]

You're the clown who said a 25-31-1 QB (3-8 this year) is better than Dak. Poor Kyler only has DeAndre Hopkins, Zach Ertz and James Conner! WAAAAH!!!!

You're the clown who said Daniel Jones is just as good as Dak.

NFL players, coaches, scouts and execs will rank QBs again this offseason. We'll see exactly how much of a know-nothing clown THEY all think YOU are.


QBs in the top 10 generally get paid. Only a complete idiot would argue that teams are better off trying to find the next Patrick Mahomes year after year, as if those guys grow on trees.

Even a year ago I would have agreed that Dak is top 10....That has become very much up in the air though. I'm not sure it has as much to do with Dak as more to do with how many good quarterbacks we have seen enter the league the past few years.

With guys emerging this year like Lawrence, Fields, Tua, Herbert, maybe even Purdy (though I think a larger sample size is needed) is Dak still top 10? Have any of the vet QBs who had great seasons out of nowhere like Geno Smith or Goff done enough to jump Dak in those rankings? To clarify I dont think all of these guys are better than Dak, but I think for all an argument can be made.

Not that i'm completely opposing your stance in this thread, but it oddly feels like there are more "good" quarterbacks in the league at one time than I can remember which does leave me more open to the side of being more open to gambling for the next Mahomes more frequently.

 

[Nav22]

It isn’t an either or situation. Quit being ridiculous. The reason there are teams that have those issues are because of zero continuity. They fire the management and coaching staff every few years and people blame it on the young QB drafted that has basically zero chance.

There are reasons why Washington’s offense looks bad that goes way beyond the QB. The offensive line is poor and they could use a more dynamic running game and playcaller. Purdy, Rush, Geno Smith are basically proving you don’t need a “franchise” QB. You can get by with dominant lines of scrimmage and a QB that doesn’t turn the ball over and makes the easy reads without crapping the bed.

Sounds like you should quit your day job, become an NFL GM and revolutionize the sport then!

You've got it all figured out!

"You can get by with..."

LOL, "get by" to where?

How often does a Cooper Rush or Geno Smith get to a conference championship game?

Brock Purdy's been terrific, but he inherited the best supporting cast in football.

 

[LittleD]

Dak, unfortunately is here through next season. All of the offensive staff should be asked to vacate the building. Especially the QB coach...he's worthless. Dak needs
a QB mentor to teach him the basics of the QB position cause he doesn't know now.

 

[Nav22]

32 of 32 GMs would take Herbert over Dak because he is an elite player with elite talent.

Stop comparing Dak to clearly elite players.

Answer the question, coward.

Would you pay Justin Herbert?

Funny how the "elite talent" with great offensive playmakers on a CHEAP ROOKIE DEAL... still can't win crap.

Choked away a 27-0 lead that his defense handed him last week (5 takeaways in the 1st half).

Blows up your whole argument. No wonder you won't answer the question.

 

[CowboyFrog]

I’m just saying.. Our defense for this era of football is elite.

Elite DTs are more rare than QBs.

is it better than SF's? thats what I'm saying if your going to go cheap at QB then you should spend deeper at those positions, I dont think our FO has showed that kind of planning.

 

[Nav22]

Even a year ago I would have agreed that Dak is top 10....That has become very much up in the air though. I'm not sure it has as much to do with Dak as more to do with how many good quarterbacks we have seen enter the league the past few years.

With guys emerging this year like Lawrence, Fields, Tua, Herbert, maybe even Purdy (though I think a larger sample size is needed) is Dak still top 10? Have any of the vet QBs who had great seasons out of nowhere like Geno Smith or Goff done enough to jump Dak in those rankings? To clarify I dont think all of these guys are better than Dak, but I think for all an argument can be made.

Not that i'm completely opposing your stance in this thread, but it oddly feels like there are more "good" quarterbacks in the league at one time than I can remember which does leave me more open to the side of being more open to gambling for the next Mahomes more frequently.

You also have to factor in QBs who fell off, like Brady, Rodgers, Watson, Murray etc.

Although Rodgers could certainly still be ranked above Dak. The others? Doubtful.

 

[thunderpimp91]

You also have to factor in QBs who fell off, like Brady, Rodgers, Watson, Murray etc.

Although Rodgers could certainly still be ranked above Dak. The others? Doubtful.

Fair point. I'd too keep Rodgers there, Watson is a wild card and could rebound into the special player he was in Houston. The others I'd rather take Dak without even thinking about it.