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[Nav22]

Nobody has Dak in their top 10. My point is that it is possible to find another QB and even if he ends up worse than Dak who cares because Dak ain't taking us anywhere bud.

They poll these guys every offseason. NFL players, coaches, scouts and execs literally all had Dak in their top 10 this past offseason.

And that's before guys like Tom Brady, Deshaun Watson and Kyler Murray had awful 2022 seasons.

Dak will be in their top 10s again. I'm sorry if that upsets you.

 

[thunderpimp91]

No doubt and for sure Drafting a QB is not the same with these new guys comming out of college, BUT i hold to what i am saying. If you can move on from Dak then sink money into the OL and DL and beef up your WR core and CB core and keep rolling rookies at RB, that is a good plan but I dont think our FO has ever showed that kind of thinking. Your cheap on QB and RB and should be a top 3 OL and DL and top 10 in most other spots..that could work.

Agreed. I'm curious if teams start to go more towards that style of thinking. I look at a team like Baltimore that is obviously hesitant to pay Lamar Jackson. Could you trade him this offseason for a package of draft picks, add a few outside free agents and bring in CJ Stroud type qb from the draft to have under center for the next 4-5 years?

 

[Jayinem]

I'd have thrown Rush out there and let him sink or swim. If he failed who cares, I already know Dak would and he did not let me down.

 

[Adreme]

They poll these guys every offseason. NFL players, coaches, scouts and execs literally all had Dak in their top 10 this past offseason.

And that's before guys like Tom Brady, Deshaun Watson and Kyler Murray had awful 2022 seasons.

Dak will be in their top 10s again. I'm sorry if that upsets you.

Also Russell Wilson basically looking washed and Stafford looking awful all year should ensure that yes Dak will almost certainly be in the top 10 for QB rankings again next year.

 

[IslandCowboy]

They poll these guys every offseason. NFL players, coaches, scouts and execs literally all had Dak in their top 10 this past offseason.

And that's before guys like Tom Brady, Deshaun Watson and Kyler Murray had awful 2022 seasons.

Dak will be in their top 10s again. I'm sorry if that upsets you.

Doesn't upset me, but also doesn't mean they are correct. Does a top 10 QB usually lead the league in INTs after missing 5 games? Does a top ten QB consistently fold in divisional playoff games? Dak is 12th in QBR for 2022 and 13th in generic QB rating. I really don't care what anyone says I care about the facts and the fact is Dak ain't it by any measureable statistic.

 

[Blitzen]

I love how their brains can’t comprehend not paying a QB like Dak even though we constantly get proven right lol.

There are people on this board spending actual time discussing how Trevon Diggs not intercepting a line drive deflected pass and not successfully breaking up a pass cost the Dallas Cowboys the game (I can see that the plays did not help the effort). They (including some radio personalities) start off with “look Dak didn’t play great yesterday, BUT…”

 

[Nav22]

Doesn't upset me, but also doesn't mean they are correct. Does a top 10 QB usually lead the league in INTs after missing 5 games? Does a top ten QB consistently fold in divisional playoff games? Dak is 12th in QBR for 2022 and 13th in generic QB rating. I really don't care what anyone says I care about the facts and the fact is Dak ain't it by any measureable statistic.

So you know better than NFL players, coaches, scouts and execs.

Right after saying "nobody has Dak in their top 10," which you were completely wrong about.

Got it.

 

[Nav22]

It’s not that it could work. It does work.

If you don’t have an elite QB, which we don’t, then focus on the things you stated.

Hurts and Purdy are nothing special. Especially Hurts.. That guy is mediocre as it gets but looks great because of the system.

Wait.....

Is Kyler Murray better than Jalen Hurts too?

How do you manage to feed yourself?

 

[Nav22]

Oh yeah that was the divisional round for Cousins. The point is still valid. Brock isn’t playing with the 2000 Ravens defense. It is not about him.

It’s just about not messing it up. The team obviously does not need Dak to make it this far. Nick Foles won the Super Bowl just a few years back (and their defense and offense were not all world). You are just dodging now.

Yeah, you just don't know football. It's okay, casual fan.

I didn't even need to look it up to know Kirk's never sniffed an NFC title game. It's hilarious that anyone could've ever thought otherwise. Kirk Cousins?????

The Eagles had an outstanting supporting cast around Nick Foles.

The 49ers have the best defense in football, and All-Pros at RB, WR and TE.

Purdy led the NFL in passer rating this year. Trent Dilfer was never even close to that good.

You're not good at this.

 

[xwalker]

And the other is Patrick Mahomes.

Unless you have an elite guy.. Please from now on don’t pay someone like Dak whatever the market says you need to pay him. Don’t be that guy on here arguing.

We literally have to find ways to have him do less because if we ask him to do more he can’t do it.

Now we’re locked into mediocrity just like I said we would be with no chance of Super Bowl success.

Dallas had a huge advantage yesterday and our advantage, Dak, was our weakness.

From now on it’s how do we win a championship in spite of our highest paid player and not because of our highest paid player.

Those who advocated for him to be paid… Please learn your lesson. If Romo couldn’t do it then Dak sure as heck can’t do it.

The Niners won because of their schemes on offense and defense, not becaue their QB didn't anything amazing.

The Niners still win if the Cowboys and Niners had swapped QBs.

 

[Blitzen]

Also Russell Wilson basically looking washed and Stafford looking awful all year should ensure that yes Dak will almost certainly be in the top 10 for QB rankings again next year.

It also means the ranking system is useless. It obviously does not mean much in the postseason-as you can see how it’s playing out this year and in many prior years.

What does make sense is why certain GM’s will fork over tons of money and picks to attempt to get better results in the postseason. Most GM’s do not have 28 years to get something correct. They get 3 and 5 if they are lucky. Then they have to show an upward trend with evidence being wins in successive rounds of the playoffs. They also know that the position can go very sideways or spiral if your team does not have solid backups in case the young QB starter cannot get it done. Geno Smith looked better than Dak against the same defense and it’s not because Seattle has way better players on offense.

 

[CowboyFrog]

There are people on this board spending actual time discussing how Trevon Diggs not intercepting a line drive deflected pass and not successfully breaking up a pass cost the Dallas Cowboys the game (I can see that the plays did not help the effort). They (including some radio personalities) start off with “look Dak didn’t play great yesterday, BUT…”

Dak stunk it up, how does that make Diggs "Business desicion" In the playoffs on a needed play any less bad? Again you want the culture changed then change all of the problems not just your pet cat problem.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

And the other is Patrick Mahomes.

Unless you have an elite guy.. Please from now on don’t pay someone like Dak whatever the market says you need to pay him. Don’t be that guy on here arguing.

We literally have to find ways to have him do less because if we ask him to do more he can’t do it.

Now we’re locked into mediocrity just like I said we would be with no chance of Super Bowl success.

Dallas had a huge advantage yesterday and our advantage, Dak, was our weakness.

From now on it’s how do we win a championship in spite of our highest paid player and not because of our highest paid player.

Those who advocated for him to be paid… Please learn your lesson. If Romo couldn’t do it then Dak sure as heck can’t do it.

well, then there is Jets, Chicago, Miami, SD, Patriots, AZ, NY, Broncos, Cleveland (they cut theirs), Bills, Ravens, Houston that have QBs with rookie contracts and doubt if any of them makes it in the next couple of years.

and Brady, Tannehill, Bortles, Stafford, Grapolo, Rodgers, Brees, all not on rookie contracts over the past few years.

so there is more than one way to get there.

 

[Flamma]

Agreed. Dak cost us the game yesterday but no way in heck would I take Murray over Dak.

I would never pay Murray. But at this point in their careers, I'm not sure I wouldn't take Murray over Dak.

 

[Flamma]

That theory holes up this year.....even going into the early rounds of the playoffs you had names like Geno Smith & Daniel Jones, meanwhile Rogers, Wilson, Carr, Murray who all got paid recently were sitting at home.

You can't count Arizona in this. Murray's extension doesn't start until 2024. That's when Arizona has to work around his big cap hits.

 

[Blitzen]

Yeah, you just don't know football. It's okay, casual fan.

I didn't even need to look it up to know Kirk's never sniffed an NFC title game. It's hilarious that anyone could've ever thought otherwise. Kirk Cousins?????

The Eagles had an outstanting supporting cast around Nick Foles.

The 49ers have the best defense in football, and All-Pros at RB, WR and TE.

You're not good at this.

And hence they did not need a “top ten” QB. Yes I made a mistake on Cousins. You are still dodging the main point.

The top weapons the Eagles used in that Super Bowl were Legarette Blount, Corey Clement, and Nelson Agholor. It was a good cast though-definitely nothing better than the Cowboys gave Dak yesterday. Philadelphia’s defense gave up 33 points to Tom Brady and they still win the game. If being “top ten” meant anything, Dak could go further than he has.

He was trash yesterday, but I suppose one team’s trash can be another team’s treasure. It sounds like you are making my argument for me. All these great teams can take a nobody to the championship game or further. Sooo-Dak is not needed.

 

[Blitzen]

The Niners won because of their schemes on offense and defense, not becaue their QB didn't anything amazing.

The Niners still win if the Cowboys and Niners had swapped QBs.

If Brock Purdy throws two interceptions and Dak throws zero I would agree. I love this hypothetical bulsh.

 

[CATCH17]

The Niners won because of their schemes on offense and defense, not becaue their QB didn't anything amazing.

The Niners still win if the Cowboys and Niners had swapped QBs.

Maybe.. Do they ask more of Dak then they do of Purdy and if so does Dak throw boneheaded picks and miss wide open receivers like he did for Dallas?

Dak Prescott was our clear advantage over the 9ers and he became our clear weakness. Screw the scheme he’s a 7 year vet and Purdy is the last pick in the draft.

 

[CowboyFrog]

I would never pay Murray. But at this point in their careers, I'm not sure I wouldn't take Murray over Dak.

Thats the thing for the correct money you would keep Dak, again if his cap hit was staying what it was this year AND (huge and here) the FO actually spent that money to make our trenches top 3 on both sides you could then have alot of positions to also bring talent to. That would be great, get back to running the ball and playing defense (and actually mean it) and that might work. Paying Dak what his cap will be next year and Rolling with our current weapons hoping Dak pulls them up, THAT wont work in the playoffs for several games in a row and has evidence to back it up.

 

[Nav22]

And hence they did not need a “top ten” QB. Yes I made a mistake on Cousins. You are still dodging the main point.

The top weapons the Eagles used in that Super Bowl were Legarette Blount, Corey Clement, and Nelson Agholor. It was a good cast though-definitely nothing better than the Cowboys gave Dak yesterday. Philadelphia’s defense gave up 33 points to Tom Brady and they still win the game. If being “top ten” meant anything, Dak could go further than he has.

He was trash yesterday, but I suppose one team’s trash can be another team’s treasure. It sounds like you are making my argument for me. All these great teams can take a nobody to the championship game or further. Sooo-Dak is not needed.

Purdy led the NFL in passer rating. Not exactly Trent Dilfer.

What has Nick Foles done since that miracle run?

Only a casual fan could make the argument that a mediocre nobody at QB gives you a better chance than a top-10 QB.

Should the Bills and Chargers get rid of their QBs too? Save the money and spend it elsewhere! Just build the best supporting cast in football and plug in the next Brock Purdy!