49ers Player Has Brutally Honest Admission On Dak Prescott

[CowboyFrog]

I am in no way defending Dak's performance because that speaks for itself with so many interceptions this season.

That said, the one thing that irritates me when teams play zone against the Cowboys is that Kellen Moore calls a lot of comeback routes which makes it really easy for the defenders to defend. The defender never loses sight of the ball while the Cowboys receiver only sees the ball at the end of the comeback route.

Even if that's the only way he knows how to beat zone you would think at some point he would mix in some "run to the defender, stop, turn back, then immediately turn around and take off down field" just to keep the defenders honest or hesitating.

This so much! again you can bring up if the OC scheme actually fits the players he has without "Defending the QB".. the QB played a bad game for sure....but the OC might be using a scheme that is just not going to work with the players he has especially against a good defens in the playoffs.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Every QB mentioned not named Tony or Dak has won. Tony and Dak the same.....sniffed or sniffing the chance to be in a Conference Championship. So stop. We been through the fix our QB process......and until an OC can correct.....we in a familiar boat.

Yeah, but it’s not as simple as both Tony and Dak have never “sniffed” a conference championship, therefore they’re effectively the same. That’s irrationality rooted on a false equivalence. Decontextualizing their play from all that it takes to win and advance in the playoffs and just looking at the end result is the equivalent of looking at two guys who drive the same Lamborghini, one an illegal drug dealer and the other an owner of several chain restaurants, and saying they’re both legitimate businessmen.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Speaking to NinersNation.com, Jimmie Ward said straight up: "Dak isn't good against zone."



https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...sedgntp&cvid=67775f4d4bb342f580741ab5dbb939db

How many QB's are good against the Niners zone when they dont have to worry about the horrid Zeke running or catching the ball?

 

[Reality]

Kept saying that in the game thread - a simple stop and go route, Dak gives a little shoulder shrug and its an easy 6.

They would have bitten so hard on that route, it would have made the defender second guess every comeback route the rest of the game.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Yeah, but it’s not as simple as both Tony and Dak have never “sniffed” a conference championship, therefore they’re effectively the same. That’s irrationality rooted on a false equivalence. Decontextualizing their play from all that it takes to win and advance in the playoffs and just looking at the end result is the equivalent of looking at two guys who drive the same Lamborghini, one an illegal drug dealer and the other an owner of several chain restaurants, and saying they’re both legitimate businessmen.

Its either 27 years of failure or its not, wether you like the individual player or not makes no diference. The Romo vs Dak war will rage with fantasies dancing in both directions...at the end of the day it produced the same results period.

 

[CowboyFrog]

They would have bitten so hard on that route, it would have made the defender second guess every comeback route the rest of the game.

yes My wife was screaming at KM and Dak "They are sitting on your routes Double move!!!!"

 

[G2]

Maybe against the 49ers, but that's not the case with other teams.

 

[G2]

Its either 27 years of failure or its not, wether you like the individual player or not makes no diference. The Romo vs Dak war will rage with fantasies dancing in both directions...at the end of the day it produced the same results period.

Until the next punching bag.

 

[cowboyblue22]

I am in no way defending Dak's performance because that speaks for itself with so many interceptions this season.

That said, the one thing that irritates me when teams play zone against the Cowboys is that Kellen Moore calls a lot of comeback routes which makes it really easy for the defenders to defend. The defender never loses sight of the ball while the Cowboys receiver only sees the ball at the end of the comeback route.

Even if that's the only way he knows how to beat zone you would think at some point he would mix in some "run to the defender, stop, turn back, then immediately turn around and take off down field" just to keep the defenders honest or hesitating.

its just not dak that is hurting this offense killin moore has a lot to do with it also

 

[CowboyFrog]

Until the next punching bag.

For sure! it should be clear what the problem is by now.

 

[CowboyFrog]

If the niners can win with Purdy the Cowboys can win with Dak, maybe the problem is what we are asking him to do...whatever it is you are not moving the QB right now so better try the next best thing or waste 2 years of this defense.

 

[nyc-cowboy]

They would have bitten so hard on that route, it would have made the defender second guess every comeback route the rest of the game.

Yes I'm a firm believer of trying a deep pass early to put it in the CBs head - same with the QB using his legs, do that a few times early and the pass rush has to respect that.

 

[America's Cowboy]

This is a stupid take and I don't even want to defend dak but he literally destroyed the eagles zone defense less than a month ago.

"Per @NextGenStats, Dak Prescott went 24-for-24 for 300 yards when Eagles played zone. Eagles defense allowed points (4 TDs, 4 FGs) on 8 of 10 Cowboys possessions. Eagles’ 2nd-worst defensive performance of the season, based on EPA per drive."

BOOM!!!

This should answer any doubts or questions concerning Dak being able to perform well against zone coverages.

 

[SultanOfSix]

Its either 27 years of failure or its not, wether you like the individual player or not makes no diference. The Romo vs Dak war will rage with fantasies dancing in both directions...at the end of the day it produced the same results period.

It’s 27 years of failure of the organization. When you compare individuals within that organization it’s an entirely different context.

 

[America's Cowboy]

I am in no way defending Dak's performance because that speaks for itself with so many interceptions this season.

That said, the one thing that irritates me when teams play zone against the Cowboys is that Kellen Moore calls a lot of comeback routes which makes it really easy for the defenders to defend. The defender never loses sight of the ball while the Cowboys receiver only sees the ball at the end of the comeback route.

Even if that's the only way he knows how to beat zone you would think at some point he would mix in some "run to the defender, stop, turn back, then immediately turn around and take off down field" just to keep the defenders honest or hesitating.

Exactly!!! Thank you for saying this @Reality !



We need better and smarter playcalling and route concepts designs for every opponent and the defenses they run. Kurt Warner has been mentioning and questioning this all season long during his Cowboys post game reviews and analysis.

 

[Cmac]

Yeah, but it’s not as simple as both Tony and Dak have never “sniffed” a conference championship, therefore they’re effectively the same. That’s irrationality rooted on a false equivalence. Decontextualizing their play from all that it takes to win and advance in the playoffs and just looking at the end result is the equivalent of looking at two guys who drive the same Lamborghini, one an illegal drug dealer and the other an owner of several chain restaurants, and saying they’re both legitimate businessmen.

That analogy makes no sense......nor being beloved vs hated, with the same results from interceptions. The Official Twitter account suggests such right now. BTW who would be considered the drug dealer and who is the restaurateur? Hmmm.

 

[G2]

Yes I'm a firm believer of trying a deep pass early to put it in the CBs head - same with the QB using his legs, do that a few times early and the pass rush has to respect that.

We didn't even run a single play-action play until the 3rd quarter. I don't get that. You're right, there should be a couple deep attempts and a couple QB runs by design to keep things honest.
But I think the 9ers are just a way better defense than I imagined.

 

[CWR]

He’s a borderline Top 10, but he wasn’t Top 10 over the last month and half of football. He was great against Philly, mediocre at best against Tennessee, totally sucked against Washington. Great against Tampa. Downright awful against San Fran.

Just because he’s here for a few years due to his contract doesn’t mean we can’t iscuss the very real issue that we may have a QB who simply can’t get it done.

I get it, but you can get it

The times that "Dak plays well" are mostly when we are the vastly superior team on that day. Thus, it's not so much that he did anything above & beyond as he beat up on a lesser opponent.

Now matter how painful the truths @PAPPYDOG, @MountaineerCowboy, myself & others tried to warn of years ago, it's time to acknowledge they have all been proven true. The excuses have all been proven invalid. It's time for everyone to accept that we have a problem at the QB position, not a solution.

If you want the team to be successful, it's time to stop defending and start trying to find a way forward.

It's adorable when guys like you play pretend, as if we have any power or say in the organizational decisions. Our opinions are as valid as this board allows them to be. No one cares. Think whatever you want, it changes absolutely nothing.

 

[Creeper]

I am in no way defending Dak's performance because that speaks for itself with so many interceptions this season.

That said, the one thing that irritates me when teams play zone against the Cowboys is that Kellen Moore calls a lot of comeback routes which makes it really easy for the defenders to defend. The defender never loses sight of the ball while the Cowboys receiver only sees the ball at the end of the comeback route.

Even if that's the only way he knows how to beat zone you would think at some point he would mix in some "run to the defender, stop, turn back, then immediately turn around and take off down field" just to keep the defenders honest or hesitating.

Yes, I completely agree. The Cowboys offense rarely involves hitting receivers on the run and in stride. It seems like it is always run, turn around, catch the ball, turn around and run again. This is why Gallup has not looked good this year. He is more of a catch the ball in stride receiver. So is CeeDee. And I think Hendershot is too if they ever get him down the seam.

 

[nalam]

Speaking to NinersNation.com, Jimmie Ward said straight up: "Dak isn't good against zone."



https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...sedgntp&cvid=67775f4d4bb342f580741ab5dbb939db

not plain zone, when the coverage is disguised and changes as it emerge , he is clueless or can’t execute. its all mental game .