49ers Player Has Brutally Honest Admission On Dak Prescott

CowboyFrog

Well-Known Member
Messages
12,339
Reaction score
11,290
It’s 27 years of failure of the organization. When you compare individuals within that organization it’s an entirely different context.
Depends on your goals, if your goal is to win a championship then its a failure. You're going to open up a can of worms with individual play because now we are talking stats, you can not show one is better than the other in that ring no matter how much you try and bend the History, they have very similar production... I mean scary how much its similar.
 

Cas2800

Well-Known Member
Messages
1,227
Reaction score
2,024
Epic stupidity.

According to you: An opposing player makes an "admission" against his opponent. You don't understand logic, language or reality.

Dak failed but fares 100x better than you and your post. I'm going to set you to "ignore". This level of stupidity makes me grumpy.
Awwww….did you get your little feelings hurt? I didn’t say it, I just posted it for discussion. Isn’t that what a discussion boards for? Go ask mommy for a hug.
 

Skynet

Active Member
Messages
111
Reaction score
103
This is the only franchise dumb enough to hire an OC to train on the job. It is no surprise that our results are as expected.
Lmao. The cowboys also had a “head coach in training “not long ago:laugh::lmao:.I wish Jerry would”promote “ kellen
The way he promoted monte kiffin a few years ago
 

Cmac

Well-Known Member
Messages
13,229
Reaction score
8,790
Can't argue that.....but wouldn't that mean they also know a bit about Kellen Moore too?
 

TheCoolFan

Well-Known Member
Messages
15,076
Reaction score
9,767
That's the blueprint on Dak and this offense. You can confuse them with zone looks and then Dak is completely flustered. Just because he torched the Eagles doesn't mean all zone defenses are the same. Remember when Monte Kiffin tried to bring the Tampa 2 defense here and it got torched? :laugh:
 

McKDaddy

Well-Known Member
Messages
9,608
Reaction score
10,311
It's adorable when guys like you play pretend, as if we have any power or say in the organizational decisions. Our opinions are as valid as this board allows them to be. No one cares. Think whatever you want, it changes absolutely nothing.
Not even sure what it was that you think was referencing power or say in organizational decisions. I don't buy that the fan is completely powerless though. We have the choice of what we are willing to support or not support and enough people tuning out the product will get the attention of the organization. But yes, any one fan or small group of fans have no leverage on the organization.
 

CWR

Well-Known Member
Messages
25,260
Reaction score
36,834
Not even sure what it was that you think was referencing power or say in organizational decisions. I don't buy that the fan is completely powerless though. We have the choice of what we are willing to support or not support and enough people tuning out the product will get the attention of the organization. But yes, any one fan or small group of fans have no leverage on the organization.

" It's time for everyone to accept that we have a problem at the QB position, not a solution.

If you want the team to be successful, it's time to stop defending and start trying to find a way forward."

What I'm saying is "we" aren't finding a solution moving forward. This is our guy and we can build around him and hope for the best or pout the entire time.

In no world will you ever get enough fans together to make management change course. If Dak didn't have a history of being a pro-bowl player and piloting a top 2 offense for consecutive years, maybe Jerry would feel differently. That fact is he's been paid, and he's an arguably top ten player at the most difficult position to find in all of pro sports.

You live in a fantasy world if you believe opinions on here will change that, ANYTIME SOON. So I don't understand the urgency of the anti Dak crowd to change the hearts and minds of those who support him.

Maybe the conversation will be relevant in two or three years. Our best, most realistic course of action now is to change coordinators and add pieces. Otherwise, we can repeat the process and have the same arguments, over and over.
 

john van brocklin

Captain Comeback
Messages
39,731
Reaction score
44,929
I am in no way defending Dak's performance because that speaks for itself with so many interceptions this season.

That said, the one thing that irritates me when teams play zone against the Cowboys is that Kellen Moore calls a lot of comeback routes which makes it really easy for the defenders to defend. The defender never loses sight of the ball while the Cowboys receiver only sees the ball at the end of the comeback route.

Even if that's the only way he knows how to beat zone you would think at some point he would mix in some "run to the defender, stop, turn back, then immediately turn around and take off down field" just to keep the defenders honest or hesitating.
Our offensive coaching is suspect
 

Praxit

Well-Known Member
Messages
12,746
Reaction score
13,821
Geez right now. It's possible fault lay in formality.

KM
Receivers
Dak

Top to down.
 

McKDaddy

Well-Known Member
Messages
9,608
Reaction score
10,311
" It's time for everyone to accept that we have a problem at the QB position, not a solution.

If you want the team to be successful, it's time to stop defending and start trying to find a way forward."

What I'm saying is "we" aren't finding a solution moving forward. This is our guy and we can build around him and hope for the best or pout the entire time.

In no world will you ever get enough fans together to make management change course. If Dak didn't have a history of being a pro-bowl player and piloting a top 2 offense for consecutive years, maybe Jerry would feel differently. That fact is he's been paid, and he's an arguably top ten player at the most difficult position to find in all of pro sports.

You live in a fantasy world if you believe opinions on here will change that, ANYTIME SOON. So I don't understand the urgency of the anti Dak crowd to change the hearts and minds of those who support him.

Maybe the conversation will be relevant in two or three years. Our best, most realistic course of action now is to change coordinators and add pieces. Otherwise, we can repeat the process and have the same arguments, over and over.
I can see how it could read that way. Those sentences were really more about it's time for the discussion about his level of play to end. He is clearly a weak link. If everyone wants the team to be successful, we need to agree on that & move forward as a fan base and as individuals.

As a forum it is natural that we discuss where we want to go and how we might get there. How much influence we can have on that is certainly debatable.
 
  • Like
Reactions: CWR

mattjames2010

Well-Known Member
Messages
21,799
Reaction score
20,656
I said when Garrett was here, I wanted a new coach just so everyone can see that Dak is who he is despite the change up. I want Moore gone now so everyone here can shut the hell up about "NEED NEW OC"

Let's keep this going. Eventually some of you will just have to admit Dak is too limited for any coach.
 

GINeric

Well-Known Member
Messages
4,737
Reaction score
3,898
With the exception of selling his good boy image, and making tons of cash there really isn't anything great or good about him on the gridiron.
P.S. The leadership tale went sailing after Sunday's loss......

Well he had you and other hatin cowards hiding every week after wins and punching holes in your parents basements.
 

nobody

Well-Known Member
Messages
10,823
Reaction score
19,316
I am in no way defending Dak's performance because that speaks for itself with so many interceptions this season.

That said, the one thing that irritates me when teams play zone against the Cowboys is that Kellen Moore calls a lot of comeback routes which makes it really easy for the defenders to defend. The defender never loses sight of the ball while the Cowboys receiver only sees the ball at the end of the comeback route.

Even if that's the only way he knows how to beat zone you would think at some point he would mix in some "run to the defender, stop, turn back, then immediately turn around and take off down field" just to keep the defenders honest or hesitating.
Moore needs to go, but I'm starting to think he calls a lot of comeback routes because that's what Dak NEEDS. How often does he throw it behind receivers anyway?
 

Nova

Ntegrase96
Messages
10,642
Reaction score
12,559
I am in no way defending Dak's performance because that speaks for itself with so many interceptions this season.

That said, the one thing that irritates me when teams play zone against the Cowboys is that Kellen Moore calls a lot of comeback routes which makes it really easy for the defenders to defend. The defender never loses sight of the ball while the Cowboys receiver only sees the ball at the end of the comeback route.

Even if that's the only way he knows how to beat zone you would think at some point he would mix in some "run to the defender, stop, turn back, then immediately turn around and take off down field" just to keep the defenders honest or hesitating.
Case and point, the 1st down pass call that was almost picked on our second to last possession.

No one was open because they all ran the same route against zone coverage.
 

DillusionalFans

Active Member
Messages
118
Reaction score
135
Jerry Jones has built the Cowboys into a business success financially by over-hyping the talent & coaches in order to sell merch, etc. Unfortunately, the players think they are entitled to win simply by virtue of wearing the star, and it has showed in results. JJ wants to get 100% of the credit which is why he doubled down on so many players & coaches when many experts have questioned his choices (Garret, McCarthy, Dak, Zeke, etc). Every year the Cowboys are supposedly “one of the most talented teams” yet they under-deliver. JJ‘s ego prevents him from giving up the GM duties, and it appears his sons (Dumb & Dumber) will follow in his footsteps. JJ’s next business venture will be to buy the History Channel so he can live in the distant past.
 
Top