4th Quarter QB ratings 04-12..Guess who's #1

[Zordon]

nominated for outstanding moronic post of the day!

the truth hurts.

 

[Doomsday101]

These rankings could be tainted because the Cowboys are forced to play from behind the majority of the time and all they do is pass the ball lol

True meaning defense knows that we have to throw to get back into the game and yet Romo more times than not puts us in a position to win, heck many times when we have taken the late lead we get to see the defense allow the other team to march down the field to retake the lead Damn Romo for letting the defense mess things up, it is all his fault. How dare he. :laugh2:

 

[DanTanna]

All of this with no OL. Man.

 

[ufcrules1]

I have some visual stats.

Year 1 06-07- Bobbled snap, out of playoffs.
Year 2- 07-08 - Threw interception to end the game, no come from behind victory.
Year 3 -08-09 - Three interceptions against eagles, no TDs. Out of playoffs
Year 4 - 09- Three fumbles, 1 interception, no TDs.
Year 5 - 2010- Romo hurt, didn't finish season. Completely sucked before being hurt.
Year 6 - 2011 - Had an INT and could only managed 14 pts against giants 31. Eliminated from playoffs.
Year 7 - 2012 - 3 INTs, eliminated again.

I'm sure people could make excuses for all 7 years because I've seen every excuse in the book. I've been done with this dude for 4 years now, and 4 years later, he's the same person who can't put up when the pressure is on.

Excellent post. Also you should add that
he fumbled the ball away in 2011 against
the Giants.

 

[erod]

I think I heard that Romo is the highest rated QB of all time in the fourth quarter.

Then again, Aikman's rating is lousy because he was ahead 27-10 and handed the ball to Emmitt.

 

[Aurican]

QB rating is not the be all end all of who is the most "clutch" in the first place, there are many factors that the rating doesn't account for which play a role, it does however give a general idea. Tony's choker reputation is not a media fabrication although I agree it can be overblown, he has definitely lived up to it.

The real problem is Romo's inconsistency, he can play at an insanely high level for stretches at a time in which he looks like a HOF lock and then he'll have a game or several games where he has complete meltdowns and looks like Rex Grossman. This is the cause of the varied opinions on him because some want to believe he is the HOF player and ignore the meltdowns and others see the meltdowns and ignore the high level games he's played. The truth is obviously in between, I don't think at this point he is going to change all you can do is put a team around him that can cover up when he has his meltdowns or a strong coach that limits him at the right times.

 

[Idgit]

...The real problem is Romo's inconsistency, he can play at an insanely high level for stretches at a time in which he looks like a HOF lock and then he'll have a game or several games where he has complete meltdowns and looks like Rex Grossman. This is the cause of the varied opinions on him because some want to believe he is the HOF player and ignore the meltdowns and others see the meltdowns and ignore the high level games he's played. The truth is obviously in between, I don't think at this point he is going to change all you can do is put a team around him that can cover up when he has his meltdowns or a strong coach that limits him at the right times.

My own viewing experience, and the statistical measures of QB performance, don't really bear out the idea that Romo's an inconsistent player relative to the rest of the QBs in the league.

 

[nalam]

Well, he had the ideal situation.

Potential game winning drive with 3:00 to take the division and win a playoff game. He threw a pick on a dumpoff pass.

That one bothered me very much too, but the rush was in his face and the LB faked pressure and bailed off beautifully.

Still , throwing of in backfoot , Romo has to be careful to throw it far enough or out to live another down or another possession, that brain fart moment has to go away. ( going to take a lot of ire, for this , LOL )

 

[Califan007]

That one bothered me very much too, but the rush was in his face and the LB faked pressure and bailed off beautifully.

Still , throwing of in backfoot , Romo has to be careful to throw it far enough or out to live another down or another possession, that brain fart moment has to go away. ( going to take a lot of ire, for this , LOL )

Romo was throwing off his back foot AND while jumping in the air on that one. That combination usually leads to something bad.

 

[DFWJC]

My own viewing experience, and the statistical measures of QB performance, don't really bear out the idea that Romo's an inconsistent player relative to the rest of the QBs in the league.

This.

Even the very best ones have a couple of real stinkers each year.

 

[landroverking]

My fear is Tony Romo is the new Danny White.

 

[rkell87]

I have some visual stats.

Year 1 06-07- Bobbled snap, out of playoffs.
Year 2- 07-08 - Threw interception to end the game, no come from behind victory.
Year 3 -08-09 - Three interceptions against eagles, no TDs. Out of playoffs
Year 4 - 09- Three fumbles, 1 interception, no TDs.
Year 5 - 2010- Romo hurt, didn't finish season. Completely sucked before being hurt.
Year 6 - 2011 - Had an INT and could only managed 14 pts against giants 31. Eliminated from playoffs.
Year 7 - 2012 - 3 INTs, eliminated again.

I'm sure people could make excuses for all 7 years because I've seen every excuse in the book. I've been done with this dude for 4 years now, and 4 years later, he's the same person who can't put up when the pressure is on.

2010 team sucked but romo, if he didn't improve over the season, over 16 games would have had 4,300 yards 30 TDs 18 INTs with a 69.5 comp %

 

[Clove]

I think I heard that Romo is the highest rated QB of all time in the fourth quarter.

Then again, Aikman's rating is lousy because he was ahead 27-10 and handed the ball to Emmitt.

:laugh2:

 

[Clove]

2010 team sucked but romo, if he didn't improve over the season, over 16 games would have had 4,300 yards 30 TDs 18 INTs with a 69.5 comp %

What does that have to do with the end result? All those nonsense stats mean nothing if you can't win down the stretch. If you're constantly playing from behind because you can't move the offense for 3 quarters, while the other teams is scoring.

Most teams in today's NFL will not be dominate IN ALL 3 PHASES OF THE GAME. So if you want an amazing offense, your defense may not be so good, and vice versa. But if you're going to be explosive on offense, then BE EXPLOSIVE and outscore everyone. If your team is built around defense, then STOP PEOPLE.

I'm sorry, there's just no excuse and now the 100 million dollar target is on Romo's back to carry this team. Jones was loyal to him, now it's time for him to do his part, and blowing out no body teams with meaningless stats in September is not what Jones' has in mind.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

4th Quarter QB ratings for last 4 games of the season, 04-12. Guess who's #1*?

Aaron Rodgers - 119.1
Phillip Rivers - 108.6
Peyton Manning - 100.0
Kurt Warner - 97.5
Tom Brady - 96.8
Tarvaris Jackson - 95.4
Matt Ryan - 95.2
Tony Romo - 93.6
Carson Palmer - 90.9
Drew Brees - 90.7


*minimum 30 games started


Biggest 4th quarter QB rating differential between first 12 games of the season and last 4 games of the season, 04-12.*:

Aaron Rodgers - +23.0
Phillip Rivers - +24.2
Carson Palmer - +14.1
Tarvaris Jackson - +12.1
Matt Ryan - +12.0
Kurt Warner - +10.7
Tom Brady - +1.4
Peyton Manning - +1.2
Drew Brees - +.7

Tony Romo - -11.4


*minimum 30 games started


Every QB on that list either stayed consistent or got better--sometimes drastically better--in the 4th quarter when the games started to mean more. Except Romo.

Did you forget E-Lie on that "clutch" QB list?

Or was it because E-Lie was only ranked 15th in the OP? :bang2:

 

[Disturbed]

You can cherry pick any numbers to support your viewpoint. In the end, the real measure is winning in the playoffs and the superbowl. All the stats in the world will not make up for falling short.

Every player in the league understands the goal of making playoffs and then winning superbowl. Any thing short is failure.

Romo has failed so far, hopefully he can finally learn how to win when it counts the most.

 

[Doomsday101]

You can cherry pick any numbers to support your viewpoint. In the end, the real measure is winning in the playoffs and the superbowl. All the stats in the world will not make up for falling short.

Every player in the league understands the goal of making playoffs and then winning superbowl. Any thing short is failure.

Romo has failed so far, hopefully he can finally learn how to win when it counts the most.

You also notice 53 players get a ring. How many rings does Troy get with out Mike and Emmitt as well as a top defense who caused turnovers. I agree messuring stick for a team is SB wins and until the game changes where it is 1 QB vs 1 QB then it will continue to be a team accomplishment not an individal accomplishment.

Eli is a very good QB but amazing the NY defense shut down a very hot NE offense in the SB and guess what Eli did not play a single down on defense.

A lot of things go into winning a SB more than just 1 guy

 

[Red Dragon]

Some people here don't like the truth.

 

[Red Dragon]

You can cherry pick any numbers to support your viewpoint. In the end, the real measure is winning in the playoffs and the superbowl. All the stats in the world will not make up for falling short.

By your logic, we should trade Jason Witten, Dez Bryant and DeMarcus Ware for Ravens punter Sam Koch. :laugh1:


Koch has more Super Bowl rings than Witten, Bryant and Ware combined.

 

[Doomsday101]

Even looking at every Cowboys super bowl win I can name several players who made key plays to win. Be it Bob Lilly and the Cowboy defense vs Miami
Doomsday defense with Randy White and Harvey Martin ripping Morton and causing turnover after turnover to win that SB. Even With Troy here the 2 games vs Buffalo defense was taking the ball away from Buffalo every time they turned around or Larry Bown vs Pitt in the SB. That does not even include individual key plays by other offensive players in all of those games outside of the QB spot.

You can look at any SB team and find a lot of big time plays from players outside of the QB position. So tell me which players while Romo has been here put up big numbers in the big games?

This is not to take Romo off the hook but for anyone to act as if he is the lone reason is beyond stupid it is narrow minded and short sighted by those who evidently have no clue as to what it takes for a team to win a SB.

For so many it is 1 player, give me a break or least learn something about the game