A 7 year QB Starter should elevate a team

[Brax]

One of the biggest concerns about Dak is his inability to elevate a team even when it's compromised. He's never really gotten over that hump and show that he's that dude. He's basically our version of Kirk Cousin's with a little more overall talent.
I will cut him some slack given the Oline injuries against Arizona but he needs to demonstrate it was an aberration and not a continuing trend or he will lose this fanbase pretty fast.
Dak's a cool dude but eventually the walk has to match the Talk.

You hater you.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Actually, it doesn't at all. Allen and other QB's have the talent & are trusted by his coaches to put the ball in the air. When Dak slings it, he leads the league in interceptions. Dink & dunk is designed to limit those.

So the year Dak threw the most in his career he had the most INT's? are you sure about this? probably should check things before you say them...but hey what do facts matter in this narrative of yours?

 

[CowboyStar88]

One of the biggest concerns about Dak is his inability to elevate a team even when it's compromised. He's never really gotten over that hump and show that he's that dude. He's basically our version of Kirk Cousin's with a little more overall talent.
I will cut him some slack given the Oline injuries against Arizona but he needs to demonstrate it was an aberration and not a continuing trend or he will lose this fanbase pretty fast.
Dak's a cool dude but eventually the walk has to match the Talk.

Real talk. I’m hoping he figures it out because I do like him, but time is running out.

 

[CowboyFrog]

I never said the defense wasnt a problem. The offense has been a problem for 2.5 games, the defense for 1. Basically if this defense doesnt force 2> turnovers then what is this team? Seriously.

I would absolutley say this team needs to be a defense first team.. have said it all off season, even said we need to make the offense a ball control eat clock with drives and score points offense....but when your missing 3 OL starters and your playing Josh Dobbs led offense what did you expect to see? I for sure think the offense failed Sunday but man the defense didnt show up at all..

 

[CowboyStar88]

He really did take a lot out this week. I dont believe he had confidence in his pass protection and he called an overly conservative game because of it. Who takes out 3 starting lineman over the course of a day or two and starts two rookies in relief?

This is the likely answer to what we were seeing. They just didn’t make the adjustments after that had data that they could be more aggressive because of the protection.

 

[TheDude]

I would absolutley say this team needs to be a defense first team.. have said it all off season, even said we need to make the offense a ball control eat clock with drives and score points offense....but when your missing 3 OL starters and your playing Josh Dobbs led offense what did you expect to see? I for sure think the offense failed Sunday but man the defense didnt show up at all..

there is no excuse to allow 28 points to AZ; but there should never be a game where we score < 17 points with a 6.2 yard per attempt.

 

[CowboyFrog]

there is no excuse to allow 28 points to AZ; but there should never be a game where we score < 17 points with a 6.2 yard per attempt.

Thats a reasonable statement that i agree with.. truth with no agenda behind it... the offense needs to produce in the Redzone thats on the HC/QB 100% to figure out.. the defense cant miss layup games against backup QB's thats on DQ/#11 to fix..

 

[CowboyStar88]

WTH? Of course I see words when I read things. What do you see when you read things, pictures?

He could be dyslexic it happens. I got a posted deleted because of it lol.

 

[TheSport78]

One of the biggest concerns about Dak is his inability to elevate a team even when it's compromised. He's never really gotten over that hump and show that he's that dude. He's basically our version of Kirk Cousin's with a little more overall talent.
I will cut him some slack given the Oline injuries against Arizona but he needs to demonstrate it was an aberration and not a continuing trend or he will lose this fanbase pretty fast.
Dak's a cool dude but eventually the walk has to match the Talk.

Cousins is much better than Rayne.

 

[lopey]

I call B.S The same people who hated Dak day one , still hate him It doesn't matter what he does.

Haters gonna hate. Qb the team to the divisional playoffs, and people act as if he 's a scrub. I want a Super Bowl too , but ya'll some catty assed , hatin people. Period

If he could perform when he is needed most no one would complain. Big games he hasn’t. I don’t think he can. Just not in hiS DNA

 

[IslandCowboy]

He has never and will never elevate this team to anything. It's time to move on. We have a bunch of fans that are too scared of some bad years with a crappy QB to not realize that it doesn't matter anyways because we ain't going to the SB with Dak. Trying the same thing over and over with new paint on it is insanity. Dak is the constant factor that causes us to lose. We need a real QB not some 4th round kid who got lucky his first year behind one of the greatest OLs in Cowboys history and an absolutely dominant run game. Any QB could have had the success he had early on with those pieces. He needs to go. I don't care if we have some 8-9 seasons because eventually we will be better off than paying $40-50 million for a guy who ain't getting us to the promise land.

 

[CyberB0b]

So your good with INT's as long as he throws the ball enough to get them? Tell me who turns the ball over more per game in thier career? I get it one guy gets every excuse and one gets all the blame..makes sense to someone somewhere i guess...

Remember, you brought Josh Allen into the conversation, not me. I just gave you the facts from last year. Dak's INTs last year with his limited work was bad. His INT ratio was the worst of his career. His yards per attempt were the 2nd lowest of his career. His completion percentage was the third lowest of his career. Dak shouldn't be regressing. He is.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Remember, you brought Josh Allen into the conversation, not me. I just gave you the facts from last year. Dak's INTs last year with his limited work was bad. His INT ratio was the worst of his career. His yards per attempt were the 2nd lowest of his career. His completion percentage was the third lowest of his career. Dak shouldn't be regressing. He is.

He had his worst year last year he is not throwing INT's this year how is that regressing its 1 year thats a huge outlier from any other year...

 

[Ken]

You're delusional. His significant limitations paralyze this team frequently.

I just stated facts. Irrefutable facts at that.

The difference was as plain as the nose on your face.

 

[Ken]

He lead the league in INTs, so I will give you that.

He was also top 3 in TD % rate.

 

[plasticman]

A 7 year quartback, a seven month quarterback, a seven day quarterback should have an offensive line.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Not defending or dissing Dak here, but how can we completely dismiss the rest of the team in discussions like this?

The Bengals lost the Super Bowl a couple years back because they couldn't protect Joe Burrow due to line injuries. Was Burrow supposed to elevate the team in that instance? Would he have fared better than Dak Sunday (this being a healthy Burrow, not the limping one now) behind the likes of Chuma Edoga, T.J. Bass, and Brock Hoffman protecting him?

I think unless you have Mahomes or a prime Brady this whole "elevate the team" narrative for QB's is a bunch of hooey. Look how many times Drew Brees' Saints teams went 7-9, for instance.

 

[garyv]

One of the biggest concerns about Dak is his inability to elevate a team even when it's compromised. He's never really gotten over that hump and show that he's that dude. He's basically our version of Kirk Cousin's with a little more overall talent.
I will cut him some slack given the Oline injuries against Arizona but he needs to demonstrate it was an aberration and not a continuing trend or he will lose this fanbase pretty fast.
Dak's a cool dude but eventually the walk has to match the Talk.

You might look back later and wish we had Will Grier back

 

[EST_1986]

5-8 years experience: Daniel Jones (5), Jackson (6), Allen (6), Baker Mayfield (6), Mahomes (7), Joshua Dobbs (7), Deshaun Watson (7), Dak Prescott (8), Jared Goff (8). 9-12 years experience: Derek Carr (10), Jimmy Garoppolo (10), Geno Smith (11), Kirk Cousins (12), Russell Wilson (12), Ryan Tannehill (12).

OP You wanna try that again, or will you admit you're Wrong. I saw Jimmy G last night He did anything but elevate his team. Mahomes is Mahomes he's been carrying those guys since he started playing

A 7 year QB Starter should elevate a team​

• Thread starterJkyle
• Start date19 minutes ago

That's what I mean, no thought, no sense just regurgitate Stuff, Man I just can't

you also cant admit Dak just cannot get it done, he's overpaid trash

 

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Dak’s not that kind of QB. How do y’all not know this by now?

McCarthy changed the offense because he knows this.

If there ever was a game to just make a play or two it was that game.

And why is it either Gallup or lamb and never both?