A complete receiver makeover?

[Dylan88Wilson]

It doesn't work that way. You don't get home run runs or big plays in the screen game without blocking downfield. It's really important, and one of the best things Dooley did in Dallas. Zeke isn't magic. He's not going to get more yards than other great backs on plays that aren't blocked as well just because he's wearing a star.

Terrance's deal wasn't a bad one at all, either.

”Run blocking on a run first team IS important. But, Terrance Williams — a receiver whose only redeeming quality is run blocking — is NOT important. Why do you think ... drum roll ... they just signed two new WRs who can catch a football? We resigned him because he was cheap and familiar. He’s being replaced because he sucks at catching. Saying Zeke — who sat out the final game of the season and still won the rushing title by 318 yards — wouldn’t have led the league in rushing without Terrance Williams’s run blocking... Like I said, LAUGHABLE.”

And yes, his deal was bad because it’s the only reason he’s still on this team right now.

 

[Idgit]

I tend to agree although it’s time to seek Wittens heir apparent if he’s not already on the roster.

Our receiving corps was one of our strengths a couple years ago .

This is probably Wit's last year. I think they let Hanna go out of camp and roll with Swaim and Jarwin as backups and Rico makes his first roster. Rico gets a chance to blow up, if he can't do it in year 3, we draft a TE relatively high next draft.

That said, a lot of fans want a fast TE with great hands who can work the seams. That's not the direction we'll go. We want TEs who can block in line and in space, and who can play the Y. It's not going to be anybody fancy. In fact, I think we'd get by with Jarwin and Swaim just fine if we needed to with what Garrett wants to do from that position.

I could see us take on this year if a good one falls in our laps in the third round, like Witten did, though. Goedert, for example. That probably won't happen, though.

 

[Sydla]

I think that is a lot more likely than Dez being cut, but I don't rule out the team moving on from Dez.

One of the big keys to the season was that we had no deep speed or RAC so defenses keyed on the short game successfully. I think pursing Watkins was about replacing TWill and not Dez and missing out on him, we definitely draft a WR high.

I don't see Beasley being replaced, especially by Switzer. Switzer may improve and keep a roster spot but Beasley is a year off a 75 catch season while Switzer has six catches for his career.

The issues last year weren't from Dez forgetting how to play, it was our offense not having good options and then a cascade of other problems like Tyron missing time, Dak's mechanics slipping, etc.

Not sure why people think it’s Williams who they want to move on from. He’s no cap savings if cut and he saves only 1MM if traded.

Beasley makes the most sense. Nearly 3.3MM saves against the cap and Cowboys have Switzer and Hurns who can play in slot.

EDIT - Stupidly forgot about subsequent years for Williams. Taking pain now to get out from under future cap hits might make sense.

 

[Idgit]

”Run blocking on a run first team IS important. But, Terrance Williams — a receiver whose only redeeming quality is run blocking — is NOT important. Why do you think ... drum roll ... they just signed two new WRs who can catch a football? We resigned him because he was cheap and familiar. He’s being replaced because he sucks at catching. Saying Zeke — who sat out the final game of the season and still won the rushing title by 318 yards — wouldn’t have led the league in rushing without Terrance Williams’s run blocking... Like I said, LAUGHABLE.”

And yes, his deal was bad because it’s the only reason he’s still on this team right now.

You're making the assumption that Williams is the one who gets replaced, and you're making the assumption that we're only keeping Williams because of his contract. Otherwise, you have a point.

Hurn might actually end up being a small upgrade to Terrence. We'll see what they do. I'm not sure why they're creating a glut at the WR position right now, and I don't really get where Hurn fits in in terms of his skill set except that he's a slightly better #2 than we have already. Problem is, both of those guys are moderately expensive and it costs us to move on from Terrence this year.

 

[NorthwestDallas40]

Here's the issue I have with this logic.

If Dak is comfortable with speed guys and guys who can run after the catch, why was he constantly settling for sitting routes that offered little opportunities to run after the catch? Where were the slants, crossing routes, etc?

Is that simply a coaching staff forcing a plan on him and Dak is hamstrung by that? Or is Mosher just pulling something from his butt saying Dak likes this when in fact, he has no idea what Dak likes?

Talk to Linehan. Can only throw it where the WR is. I've been saying this passing route tree/system is trash for years.

 

[Ken]

The Deonte Thompson signing replaces Brice Butler, but are we witnessing a far bigger receiver turnover in the works?

Dallas' strong pursuit of Sammy Watkins, I believe, was to replace Dez Bryant, not complement him. And I think the latter still sounds likely after June 1st. Adding a receiver like Allen Hurns, combined with drafting Calvin Ridley or Christian Kirk....and I think Dez better get his bags packed. They seem to be TRYING to replace him.

Ryan Switzer and Cole Beasley are somewhat redundant. Switzer returns punts, is cheaper, and is more sturdily built. Bye, Cole?

We could conceivably see a starting receiving group next year comprised of something like Ridley, Hurns, Switzer, and Thompson. The Dez/Cole/TWill/Butler experiment could be over in its entirety.

It seems they believe their receiving corps and grown too stale, and perhaps too content.

I agree.

I see Hurns and Deonte here to buy time in the early part of the season for a rookie wr to get up to speed.

 

[NorthwestDallas40]

No way we take a WR in round 1 at this point. No way

Nor should we. Ridley is not worth it.

 

[Dylan88Wilson]

You're making the assumption that Williams is the one who gets replaced, and you're making the assumption that we're only keeping Williams because of his contract. Otherwise, you have a point.

Hurn might actually end up being a small upgrade to Terrence. We'll see what they do. I'm not sure why they're creating a glut at the WR position right now, and I don't really get where Hurn fits in in terms of his skill set except that he's a slightly better #2 than we have already. Problem is, both of those guys are moderately expensive and it costs us to move on from Terrence this year.

Either you cut Terrance Williams or you let him ride the bench, either way you’re paying for basically the same production. The cap argument against cutting him becomes moot at that point because it’s addition by subtraction. We still have the draft coming up, which I would be shocked if we didn’t take a receiver or two. Terrance is the obvious man out, and maybe Beasley as well who has trade value. Hurns will start for us at the Z or Y. If we draft a guy like D.J. Moore, for example, Hurns would likely start at the Y over Switzer. If not, he starts at the Z and replaces Williams.

 

[erod]

I agree.

I see Hurns and Deonte here to buy time in the early part of the season for a rookie wr to get up to speed.

Something tells me they want to avoid receiver in the draft, but who knows? I hope they figure a way to move up for Roquan Smith, then find Witten's replacement in the second round.

And a Dez for Earl Thomas swap?

I'd be a happy customer with that.

 

[BrassCowboy]

They need to quit blaming their WR's and look at themselves in the mirror.

Dallas needs to scheme some guys open instead of running predictable routes.

Well i do agree our scheme is too simple and lack of creativity/adjustments by the coaching staff, but our WRs are blah in both speed and route running.

 

[CATCH17]

Well i do agree our scheme is too simple and lack of creativity/adjustments by the coaching staff, but our WRs are blah in both speed and route running.

Yeah.

Hurns brings you the blah with speed but he's a solid route runner.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

The Deonte Thompson signing replaces Brice Butler, but are we witnessing a far bigger receiver turnover in the works?

Dallas' strong pursuit of Sammy Watkins, I believe, was to replace Dez Bryant, not complement him. And I think the latter still sounds likely after June 1st. Adding a receiver like Allen Hurns, combined with drafting Calvin Ridley or Christian Kirk....and I think Dez better get his bags packed. They seem to be TRYING to replace him.

Ryan Switzer and Cole Beasley are somewhat redundant. Switzer returns punts, is cheaper, and is more sturdily built. Bye, Cole?

We could conceivably see a starting receiving group next year comprised of something like Ridley, Hurns, Switzer, and Thompson. The Dez/Cole/TWill/Butler experiment could be over in its entirety.

It seems they believe their receiving corps and grown too stale, and perhaps too content.

I think the WR rework is in progress, but I don't think it precludes us drafting....Thompson is on a one year contract and can be released with no cap implications. but we are hedging our bets as usual to go into the draft taking best available player....and addressing some hidden needs like RT and LG, DT, LB, Saftey (well maybe not so hidden)

 

[CouchCoach]

Hurns is signed. I think Dez is as good as gone.

Hurns isn't a replacement for Dez, they should try and trade Williams or Beasley now.

 

[waldoputty]

The Deonte Thompson signing replaces Brice Butler, but are we witnessing a far bigger receiver turnover in the works?

Dallas' strong pursuit of Sammy Watkins, I believe, was to replace Dez Bryant, not complement him. And I think the latter still sounds likely after June 1st. Adding a receiver like Allen Hurns, combined with drafting Calvin Ridley or Christian Kirk....and I think Dez better get his bags packed. They seem to be TRYING to replace him.

Ryan Switzer and Cole Beasley are somewhat redundant. Switzer returns punts, is cheaper, and is more sturdily built. Bye, Cole?

We could conceivably see a starting receiving group next year comprised of something like Ridley, Hurns, Switzer, and Thompson. The Dez/Cole/TWill/Butler experiment could be over in its entirety.

It seems they believe their receiving corps and grown too stale, and perhaps too content.

kudos, u saw the makeover happening

 

[erod]

Hurns isn't a replacement for Dez, they should try and trade Williams or Beasley now.

If Dez doesn't agree to a reduced salary, I think Hurns is a replacement, especially if they draft a receiver, too.

 

[d_cowboy31]

This makeover makes zero sense. WR was the least of our worries. There are so many other needs. How much money are we paying wide receivers this year now!? $30 million?

Honey Badger would have been a great signing and filled a big need but apparently he was out of our price range. Well we just spent the exact same amount that he cost for this year on WR's in the last 2 days!

 

[cds99]

Something tells me they want to avoid receiver in the draft, but who knows? I hope they figure a way to move up for Roquan Smith, then find Witten's replacement in the second round.

And a Dez for Earl Thomas swap?

I'd be a happy customer with that.

A trade up for Roquan? Nah! Let's go up for Derwin then get Wittens replacement and get ET. It's all a pipe dream but it is fun to dream.

 

[unionjack8]

This guy just straight up talks bs

 

[DanA]

This makeover makes zero sense. WR was the least of our worries. There are so many other needs. How much money are we paying wide receivers this year now!? $30 million?

Honey Badger would have been a great signing and filled a big need but apparently he was out of our price range. Well we just spent the exact same amount that he cost for this year on WR's in the last 2 days!

I just think we haven't seen the complete picture yet. If hypothetically we traded Beasley and cut Dez then these deals make a hell of a lot of sense when you consider who was available in free agency. I also think it's possible we keep Dez on a reduced salary (pay cut) but either way, I don't really see how we keep Beasley. He's the one guy with Hurns, Switzer and Thompson that feels the most expendable.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

I guess Dez going to route running school was a little too late.