A Dak Extension Will Overtake Firing Jimmy Johnson As Jerry's Biggest Mistake

[bigE79]

If Dak is given an extension you are guaranteeing failure.

I don't care if there is currently no plan in place for life after Dak. I don't care if the Lance trade really was just for a 3rd string QB.

The unknown right now is better than the known that Dak brings you.

You will NEVER find a high level QB if you strap yourself to low level QBs.

We've not ever looked for a legit QB since Romo got the job. That was almost 20 years ago!

The only thing worse than having Dak as the QB is that Jerry doesn't care that Dak is the QB.

The dud should never have been gifted the job to begin with...there's a reason why he became the starting QB at every level and it wasn't because he beat out the starter or won a competition...don't believe me, look it up...I'll never forget how he trashed Romo while he was at Mississippi st..oh how the tables have turned on the boy blunder.

 

[Nav22]

You don't have to be tanking just because you're going to try other options. Everyone said AZ was tanking but they are fighting to the end of every game.

You throw in Lance or Rush and see what happens. You play to win and see if maybe you find the next hidden gem. Maybe one of them goes nuts and we win a bunch of games. We know this team isn't winning anything this year with Dak. Maybe an early playoff exit at best. We've seen Daks ceiling. It ain't good enough. Let's see what we have and if it isn't enough we will know that soon enough too and we will be in a position to draft another qb and see what they've got.

1) Cooper Rush isn't the answer. We know that. Even if he "wins a bunch of games" which Dak is also very capable of.

2) Parcells said you can ruin a QB by playing him too early, and he was right. Trey Lance had the best supporting cast in football with SF and still wasn't ready to play. Give him time to learn or else you'll ruin him. Eventually, he'll get his chance. You just can't rush it.

 

[Nav22]

So you are saying you have to devise a sure fire plan to spot and mention a problem?

The cowboys execs cant do it but you expect us to?
Ridiculous.

Look....i saw nasa have a couple major screwups.....but i cant mention them if i dont have the solution?

What the....

Do you think whining about Dak is original or helpful?

We know he's not elite, and we all wish we had an elite QB.

That's been covered.

So you can either keep whining like a sheep or you can offer solutions.

 

[RomoIsGod]

Disagree - running Jimmy off costed us 4 straight, and likely 5 straight SBs. Nobody would give a damn about the Patriots and Tom Brady if that had been allowed to take place.

Cowboys get Deion a year before if Jimmy stays and yes. Probably 3,4, or 5 in a row.

 

[Nav22]

Keep drafting one every year. Something the Cowboys almost never do.

Okay, that's an actual plan!

We used a 4th-round pick on Trey Lance.

I'm all for drafting someone next April, assuming there's a prospect available that we like.

 

[Nav22]

LoL, why do you keep repeating this plan nonsense? As for now anything's better than continuing with Dak. Or least not worse but then we'd at least tried something different. What's the plan my arse. Bench Dak, give Lance some play time and see what he's got. If he does good, then we go into 2024 with him. If he sucks then we start drafting QBs like there was no tomorrow.

Anything but having to watch Mr. deer in the headlights any longer.

And I'm well aware that this organization has other problems too. Severe problems. But you start rebuilding with your QB.

So your plan is to immediately ruin Trey Lance by playing him too early, even after he showed that he was NOT ready to play with the best roster in football?

BRILLIANT!!!

Parcells used to say you can ruin a QB by playing him before he's ready. You didn't get that memo. See Zach Wilson.

 

[SlammedZero]

Dak got humbled.

Why can't you?

I told you like 3 different times last night what they should do.

I'll tell you again: TRY. It's simple. You TRY to improve the position and not handcuff yourself to a bum.

Why does it seem we have people here that would've wanted to keep Alex Smith instead of trading up for Mahomes? Because Alex Smith was comfortable.

I'm on your wagon now good sir. It's time for a change. Draft a guy. Trade for a guy. Do SOMETHING and start looking past Dak to the future.

 

[Nav22]

Running with Dak is current state, not a plan...and it isn't working. Have you ever had to cut bait before?

Dak needs to sit, the players have given up on him too.

Hmm, I'll need you to be a bit more specific.

Sit Dak for who? Cooper Rush or Trey Lance?

Cooper's not the answer and Trey's not ready. We are where we are.

 

[DandyDon1722]

Dak got humbled.

Why can't you?

I told you like 3 different times last night what they should do.

I'll tell you again: TRY. It's simple. You TRY to improve the position and not handcuff yourself to a bum.

Why does it seem we have people here that would've wanted to keep Alex Smith instead of trading up for Mahomes? Because Alex Smith was comfortable.

Agree. The first thing you do is draft a QB EVERY SINGLE YEAR.

I would say it doesn’t matter what round (Brady, Purdy, Romo, Warner, etc) but now the stakes have been raised.

Hope is not a strategy at this point.

So…

This is an exceptional QB class and if you have to move up to the 2nd or 3rd round you do it.

If there is somebody you really believe in package Parsons and picks and get into the first round. A first round tackle at 20 means nothing without the QB.

Also a franchise QB can carry you as you build around him. Look at CJ Stroud and what he is doing with very little talent.

I understand you can miss (Wilson, Darnold) but to do nothing now is organizational suicide for the next five years and more than anything the team and fanbase need hope.

The biggest hurdle is asking a narcissist to admit he was wrong and thats why I hate him with every fiber of my being.

 

[CATCH17]

If Dak could extend plays he would be an entirely different QB.

He’s just slow at everything against a team like this on the road.

Hes not sure.

 

[garyv]

Andy Reid knew Alex Smith wasn't the guy. McVay knew Goff wasn't the guy. Shanahan knew Jimmy G and even Trey Lance weren't the guys. Howie knew Wentz wasn't the guy.

We are still hoping that 8 years later, this guy will catch fire. It doesn't happen in this league. Now, Jerry is in a position where an extension is almost 100 percent happening because that backloaded contract he currently has is packaged with absurd cap hits.

But don't worry. We'll win 9-10 games, Jerry will sell the hopium, we'll get bounced early in the playoffs and we'll line up and do it again next year.

LOL right now I would almost rather have Goff than Dak

 

[MapleLeaf]

If Dak is given an extension you are guaranteeing failure.

I don't care if there is currently no plan in place for life after Dak. I don't care if the Lance trade really was just for a 3rd string QB.

The unknown right now is better than the known that Dak brings you.

You will NEVER find a high level QB if you strap yourself to low level QBs.

We've not ever looked for a legit QB since Romo got the job. That was almost 20 years ago!

The only thing worse than having Dak as the QB is that Jerry doesn't care that Dak is the QB.

I don't think there will be an extension.

Dak's time with the Cowboys will run out like Garrett's, Zeke's and others.

 

[nate dizzle]

1) Cooper Rush isn't the answer. We know that. Even if he "wins a bunch of games" which Dak is also very capable of.

2) Parcells said you can ruin a QB by playing him too early, and he was right. Trey Lance had the best supporting cast in football with SF and still wasn't ready to play. Give him time to learn or else you'll ruin him. Eventually, he'll get his chance. You just can't rush it.

I actually agree on both points. I dont think Rush is the answer, and I doubt Lance is ready. However, I also believe that a message needs to be sent to the team that you can be benched for poor play regardless of contract.

That said, start Rush. I honestly think this offense is a better fit for him than Dak anyway. Let's see what happens. If we keep doing this, we already know the answer.

 

[Nav22]

I actually agree on both points. I dont think Rush is the answer, and I doubt Lance is ready. However, I also believe that a message needs to be sent to the team that you can be benched for poor play regardless of contract.

That said, start Rush. I honestly think this offense is a better fit for him than Dak anyway. Let's see what happens. If we keep doing this, we already know the answer.

Rush certainly wouldn't have been any worse last night. Dak was atrocious.

That said, you can't bench Dak for Rush yet. Dak last night was as bad as Rush at Philly last year, and we saw how Dak played vs Philly later in the year.

Dak would need to totally lay an egg (again) next week in LA for that to even become a conversation entering the bye. But if he does lay another egg, I'm all for having that conversation.

 

[MS17]

How'd they get Jimmy G, Lance, and Purdy?

They traded for Jimmy G.
They traded up for Lance.
Purdy was luck.

They were TRYING.

That's the point. If you fail you fail, but at least you are trying.

"They", the 49ers, have had a competent GM and savvy football guy running things there. Any comparisons between Dallas front office/management and the 49ers' people ends right there.
John Lynch was hired in 2017 and promptly brought in Shanahan to coach later that year. (We saw Lynch shaking SF players' hands on the sidelines last night)

I'd love to have a beer (or 3) with Lynch and ask him what to do with Dak this season. We can guess what he would not do.

 

[nate dizzle]

LOL right now I would almost rather have Goff than Dak

Almost? ALMOST???

 

[atlantacowboy]

Disagree. Jimmy wasn’t fired. He reigned technically. The error with how Jerry handled himself during that time will never be surpassed.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

If Dak is given an extension you are guaranteeing failure.

I don't care if there is currently no plan in place for life after Dak. I don't care if the Lance trade really was just for a 3rd string QB.

The unknown right now is better than the known that Dak brings you.

You will NEVER find a high level QB if you strap yourself to low level QBs.

We've not ever looked for a legit QB since Romo got the job. That was almost 20 years ago!

The only thing worse than having Dak as the QB is that Jerry doesn't care that Dak is the QB.

As bad as Dak getting extended would be, I wouldn't put it as being worse than the Jimmy decision. The Jimmy debacle has cursed this franchise. Dak would just be a nuisance for a few years by comparison. That said, I think that Lance should start getting some looks after the bye week. We need to see what we have in him before we enter the draft. We need to know if he can be the future with this draft class coming up, and Jerry needs to be honest with his assessment. If the answer is no, we have a rare QB class where it's really looking good. There are about 5-6 QBs that I think are 1st round caliber coming out of college. Surely, if Lance isn't the answer, we can get one of them. They don't have to start immediately with Dak having one year left next year on his deal, but we need to get the QB of the future on this roster this offseason before Lamb and Parsons decide to go elsewhere.

 

[Nav22]

If Dak could extend plays he would be an entirely different QB.

He’s just slow at everything against a team like this on the road.

Hes not sure.

Yeah, mobility used to be a strength of his.

Right now he looks like one of the least mobile QBs in the league. The injuries, hits and age have taken their toll.

 

[RustyBourneHorse]

Disagree - running Jimmy off costed us 4 straight, and likely 5 straight SBs. Nobody would give a damn about the Patriots and Tom Brady if that had been allowed to take place.

And there's been a dark cloud over the Cowboys that has rotted the culture of this franchise to the core since that day. Dak and our current situation is only a symptom. The cure is one of two things. Either Jerry puts Jimmy in the ROH, or Jerry dies and his offspring puts him in. Once Jimmy is in, I think the cloud will start to clear.