A down with Julius in, is a down wasted

[hairic]

I think Julius is just running to not get injured. All that juking and shifting will get people diving for your ankles, and Julius being ankle tackled result in ankle sprains.

JJ's motto: It's better to fall to the ground on first contact than to get injured.

 

[Rack]

And when he makes a good play a flag calls it back.

Troy Hambrick>>>>Julius Jones

Whoa, settle down there. You don't have to exhaggerate to make your point.

JuJo broke more tackles vs the panthers this game alone then Hambrick did in his whole career.

I still have yet to see JuJo trip over a blade of grass.

 

[Org1]

Mentally, he isn't built to split carries
He just can't do it and be a success

Look at all of his good games in the past
He dominates the ball in his better games...sometimes it takes a few consecutive carries to get him goin
The few times he did get goin this year, he had to come out so MBIII could get some touches

I don't know if he'll ever get a chance to be a feature again but if he does, I guarantee he puts up good numbers
18-15 carries a game..yes he'll be very good and even break the long ones from time to time


MBIII is better for Dallas and the better back currently but I am not convinced that the explosiveness of JJ's rookie year is dead

He is like a jump shooter with zero confidence right now

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Yes, Julius Jones' only role now is to spell Marion Barber.

The Barbarian even outplayed the guy in the formation he use to excel in, the Shotgun Draw.

Week after Week it becomes painfully obvious that the guy lacks vision and couldn't break out of my Grandmother's tackle.

I also love the new angle that the Pro-Julius guys are saying. Insinuating that Barber isn't a good blocking. There is no way in HELL any back in the NFL would get significant playing time if he couldn't pick up blitzes and help protect the QB.

Im going to find that play and see exactly what happened.

 

[jackrussell]

If there were no MB3, this thread wouldn't exist. Julius Jones is a great guy and serviceable yeoman running back, probably better than average. I got him at the 60-70% range of NFL backs.
He just has the unfortunate burden of two things: Being a No. 1 draft pick, of which I agree he's underachieved.

He wasn't a #1 draft pick, unless you consider he was the first player taken by the Cowboys that year.

 

[odog422]

Yes, Julius Jones' only role now is to spell Marion Barber.

The Barbarian even outplayed the guy in the formation he use to excel in, the Shotgun Draw.

Week after Week it becomes painfully obvious that the guy lacks vision and couldn't break out of my Grandmother's tackle.

I also love the new angle that the Pro-Julius guys are saying. Insinuating that Barber isn't a good blocking. There is no way in HELL any back in the NFL would get significant playing time if he couldn't pick up blitzes and help protect the QB.

Im going to find that play and see exactly what happened.

I guess I'm considered a "pro-Julius" guy because I like him too. For me, it's because he burst on the scene and it was fun to see some explosion out of the backfield again, and I guess for that, I want to see him do well because I do believe Parcells screwed with his head and confidence.

That said, I have no problem admitting Barber is the better back. Barber has better balance and I think is a more instinctive runner. But not by some great distance over Jones.

And if you really go back and look for the play others are referring to where Barber missed the block, you can look at a few other games where he did it as well. Jones seems the one better schooled at picking up the blitzes.

Fans like "ooh ahhh" plays in football, i.e., big hits, physicality. So while Barber will miss blitz pickups, he'll have one like the collision between him and Zach Thomas in the backfield and everyone jumps on that as him being great at picking up the blitz.

As I said, Barber is the better back, but not by all that much. For one, I don't have confidence with his style that he can be a feature back (which Jones has already proven he can do on this level - Barber has always split carries going back to college) and sometimes I don't think he runs smart. For example, trying to bounce it out when all that's needed is a yard.

Funny how in the few games where clearly Julius was running better and more effectively, but to maintain the "split" carries we pulled him for Barber, I didn't see all these threads. It's like people sitting back and waiting to pounce to prove a point rather than being happy the offense is looking good running the ball and winning. Simply because "their" guy is not the one blowing it up.

I can understand people's preference for one or the other, but I don't get how or why people feel it's necessary to say the "other" guy is garbage.

 

[Coakleys Dad]

Julius just has zero vision, never sees a cutback or a hole, just runs where the play is designed to go....."robot-like"

 

[starfrombirth]

Julius Jones is 12-1.

Sounds like lovie smith when asked about Rex Grossman :laugh2:

 

[TheCount]

i've given up arguing that Julius is possibly the worst player on our offense. It sucks for him that every big run seems to always get wiped out by a pentalty, but even Samkon Gado has had some decent games. The difference is that on whatever team he's on, Samkon is the guy spelling, not being spelled (assuming the other backs are healthy).

 

[Oh_Canada]

Funny how in the few games where clearly Julius was running better and more effectively, but to maintain the "split" carries we pulled him for Barber, I didn't see all these threads.

Are you confusing Jones/Barber with Jones/Anthony Thomas??

 

[Zimmy Lives]

That is all.

Maybe so behind this o-line. A RB like Riggins, or the guy that played for Carolina/Washington (Davis?), would do well behind this current like of behemoths.

 

[Nors]

That MB3 is not starting is really becoming a joke and hurting our team.

If we lose a playoff game with JJ doing dirtnap runs its a joke.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

That MB3 is not starting is really becoming a joke and hurting our team.

If we lose a playoff game with JJ doing dirtnap runs its a joke.

Barber will get more touches in the playoffs. He can go all out without risk of wearing down.

 

[rynochop]

Barber will get more touches in the playoffs. He can go all out without risk of wearing down.

I still like the current rotation, but yeah, Barber should get 80% of the touches in the playoffs

No way, JJ picks up that 4th and long 1. No. Way.

 

[Coakleys Dad]

That MB3 is not starting is really becoming a joke and hurting our team.

If we lose a playoff game with JJ doing dirtnap runs its a joke.

spot on:laugh1:

 

[TheCount]

That MB3 is not starting is really becoming a joke and hurting our team.

If we lose a playoff game with JJ doing dirtnap runs its a joke.

My girlfriend and I were discussing JJ and we came up with a nick name for him Julius "2-D" Jones, meaning he's 2 dimensional. He's either standing straight up, or laying flat on the ground.

 

[Nors]

MB3 981 Yards 12 TD's 5.0 YPC

jj 581 Yards 3.7 YPC

 

[locked&loaded]

I guess I'm considered a "pro-Julius" guy because I like him too. For me, it's because he burst on the scene and it was fun to see some explosion out of the backfield again, and I guess for that, I want to see him do well because I do believe Parcells screwed with his head and confidence.

That said, I have no problem admitting Barber is the better back. Barber has better balance and I think is a more instinctive runner. But not by some great distance over Jones.

And if you really go back and look for the play others are referring to where Barber missed the block, you can look at a few other games where he did it as well. Jones seems the one better schooled at picking up the blitzes.

Fans like "ooh ahhh" plays in football, i.e., big hits, physicality. So while Barber will miss blitz pickups, he'll have one like the collision between him and Zach Thomas in the backfield and everyone jumps on that as him being great at picking up the blitz.

As I said, Barber is the better back, but not by all that much. For one, I don't have confidence with his style that he can be a feature back (which Jones has already proven he can do on this level - Barber has always split carries going back to college) and sometimes I don't think he runs smart. For example, trying to bounce it out when all that's needed is a yard.

Funny how in the few games where clearly Julius was running better and more effectively, but to maintain the "split" carries we pulled him for Barber, I didn't see all these threads. It's like people sitting back and waiting to pounce to prove a point rather than being happy the offense is looking good running the ball and winning. Simply because "their" guy is not the one blowing it up.

I can understand people's preference for one or the other, but I don't get how or why people feel it's necessary to say the "other" guy is garbage.

is that some kind of sick christmas joke?

 

[Thomas82]

I guess I'm considered a "pro-Julius" guy because I like him too. For me, it's because he burst on the scene and it was fun to see some explosion out of the backfield again, and I guess for that, I want to see him do well because I do believe Parcells screwed with his head and confidence.

That said, I have no problem admitting Barber is the better back. Barber has better balance and I think is a more instinctive runner. But not by some great distance over Jones.

And if you really go back and look for the play others are referring to where Barber missed the block, you can look at a few other games where he did it as well. Jones seems the one better schooled at picking up the blitzes.

Fans like "ooh ahhh" plays in football, i.e., big hits, physicality. So while Barber will miss blitz pickups, he'll have one like the collision between him and Zach Thomas in the backfield and everyone jumps on that as him being great at picking up the blitz.

As I said, Barber is the better back, but not by all that much. For one, I don't have confidence with his style that he can be a feature back (which Jones has already proven he can do on this level - Barber has always split carries going back to college) and sometimes I don't think he runs smart. For example, trying to bounce it out when all that's needed is a yard.

Funny how in the few games where clearly Julius was running better and more effectively, but to maintain the "split" carries we pulled him for Barber, I didn't see all these threads. It's like people sitting back and waiting to pounce to prove a point rather than being happy the offense is looking good running the ball and winning. Simply because "their" guy is not the one blowing it up.

I can understand people's preference for one or the other, but I don't get how or why people feel it's necessary to say the "other" guy is garbage.

I feel the same way. If Julius ever gets an opportunity to be a feature back again, if he can correct his deficiencies and be used the right way, I can see him being like another Tiki Barber. But that's easier said than done.

 

[Sportsbabe]

You know what would be sweet? If we shipped off a package deal to Parcells and included Julius in it. He would dookey bricks (LOL).