A frustrated Darren Woodson

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Woody played in an NFL that didn't call games to benefit the offense compared to today's NFL. Woody is in my top 5 favorite players but if he played the way he did in the 90's in today's NFL he would get flag after flag. NFL rules in today's game is a joke.
 

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Woody is my favorite player and he is wrong.

If the hold on Tyler Smith is a penalty, then the Bills should have been called for about a dozen holds.

The only bad penalty was the Williams one.

Of course, you want them to lose so you can point to things like this, but, ya know, you're wrong.
DFlaws on the first drive was very bad too.
 

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It comes down to DISCIPLINE and ACCOUNTABILITY


and as long as the players KNOW that Jerry will side with them how much do we have of either?
its a shame you have to post this but obviously there are those here who need to hear it. Make them pay for preventable penalties. Offsides and false starts are the easiest things to correct.
 

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Woody is my favorite player and he is wrong.

If the hold on Tyler Smith is a penalty, then the Bills should have been called for about a dozen holds.

The only bad penalty was the Williams one.

Of course, you want them to lose so you can point to things like this, but, ya know, you're wrong.
I have to agree with everything you wrote here. I don't think it is coaching. The big penalties they took against the Bills were one offs. The holding on Tyler is starting to be a problem. He is one of the top penalized OL in the league and he has 5 holding calls. To be honest, A few of the calls against he were kind of ticky-tack. The one against the Bills was not different than the play where Clark was blocked 15 yards downfield and then driven into the ground. The OL guy was holding Clark by the shoulder pads and did not let go until Clark was buried. That is a penalty. I admit the guy did a great job hiding it but at least Tyler let go.

In defense of Sam Williams, he made a mistake leaping in the air but he probably thought the ball would be punted up so he leaped to block it. How the punter avoided kicking it into Williams is just another one of those plays that 9 times out of 10 goes the Cowboys way.
 

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Woody is my favorite player and he is wrong.

If the hold on Tyler Smith is a penalty, then the Bills should have been called for about a dozen holds.

The only bad penalty was the Williams one.

Of course, you want them to lose so you can point to things like this, but, ya know, you're wrong.
Sure dude, one of the top players we have ever had just isn't seeing the real picture but Mac on the message board is....this is embarrassing
 

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No it doesn't. Do you think they don't practice a cadence?

It's just focus and there's nothing coaches can do about that.
Are you kidding....you discipline them until it's in their head not to do it. Even high school coached do this. Please stop posting nonsense
 

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There is nothing a coach can do about false starts or offsides. Holding, PI and those other subjective things just constantly go against them.

Like do people not remember when Travis Frederick called called for tripping TWICE against NE?
Is it legal for a team to fine players for idiotic penalties, such as pre-snap ones?
 

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Contrary to opinion, the Seattle Seahawks won the Super Bowl and appeared in the Super Bowl following year. Both being the leader in penalties.
So in nutshell, it's not written in stone.
 

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Contrary to opinion, the Seattle Seahawks won the Super Bowl and appeared in the Super Bowl following year. Both being the leader in penalties.
So in nutshell, it's not written in stone.

Seahawks also had an elite defense that secondary held on every play to the point the refs wouldn't call it every play for their first SB win.
Funny enough after their SB win the league cracked down on illegal contact/defensive holding. Still had the #1 defense in terms of points given up.
 

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On the Cowboys storyline podcast;

Just ripped the Cowboys for taking too many penalties and said this is going to bite us big-time in the playoffs. And if you don’t think so, you’re lost. The host just sat there and stared at him.

And he finished with “ that’s coaching”

That’s all I needed to hear you get exactly what he saying.

You can stack up all the 12 seasons you want but if you continue to lead the league and penalties, it doesn’t mean a hill of S.

Enough is enough now - it’s a disgrace.
Its frustrating to everyone. Unfortunately when certain players and teams get that reputation it becomes harder to break because you no longer get the benefit of the doubt and there's more scrutiny of how you're playing.

I'm sure coaching and technique are being taught but for the less discplined players that are more frequent offenders the coaches have to consider reducing playing time or atleast reinforcing messaging during in game situations.

What's interesting is McCarthy teams traditionally haven't been big penalty offenders until he got to the Cowboys.
 

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Seahawks also had an elite defense that secondary held on every play to the point the refs wouldn't call it every play for their first SB win.
Funny enough after their SB win the league cracked down on illegal contact/defensive holding. Still had the #1 defense in terms of points given up.
When a team gets the golden nod from the league a lot is overlooked
We saw that with the Stealers; we saw it with the Patriots
For a year or two Seattle was there; all the hype and publicity; so the league gave them a break
 

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This is an area where football parallels real life. Anyone who has managed a group at any level is accountable for their subordinates performance.

If you can't teach a member of your team while exhausting all avenues, and that team member is costing you dollars, football games, whatever...he needs to be removed or punished in a suitable manner. If you are a garbage leader incapable of presenting material in a manner that your team can learn and apply, then YOU are the problem.

Either way this is not a ref. problem, it's a problem that lies within this organization. I've seen plenty of calls this year go in favor of our team where I'm sure other fanbases were throwing **** at their TV's claiming that the Cowboys get all the calls.
 

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On the Cowboys storyline podcast;

Just ripped the Cowboys for taking too many penalties and said this is going to bite us big-time in the playoffs. And if you don’t think so, you’re lost. The host just sat there and stared at him.

And he finished with “ that’s coaching”

That’s all I needed to hear you get exactly what he saying.

You can stack up all the 12 seasons you want but if you continue to lead the league and penalties, it doesn’t mean a hill of S.

Enough is enough now - it’s a disgrace.
That's the biggest thing right now.
 

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No it doesn't. Do you think they don't practice a cadence?

It's just focus and there's nothing coaches can do about that.
The 5 least penalized teams in the league are Vegas, chargers, Cincinnati, Minnesota and commanders. I dint think they are the standard for coaching lol so you may have a point
 

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We hear all up and down about how Jerry's meddling messes with player accountability but the first place people go when it comes to penalties is "I can see inside the refs' heads to know they're picking on the Cowboys." Must be like individuals who never want to look within when there's an issue. Always someone else's fault for scheming against them.

When KC was ruling the AFC, you never heard them whining about the refs about bad calls. They just overcame them. Far cry from that this year. Yes, a few of their calls have been bad but did that just start happening or is the power balance different for them this year? Hmmm. This whining is what not-good-enough teams do.
 
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