A little perspective on the overreaction.

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Hoofbite;2993020 said:
The thing about always saying things suck is that you are eventually going to be right.

Just because the "usual suspects" have cried wolf in the past is no reason to immediately write them off right now. Remember, the wolf did eventually show up.

I could care less if someone is optimistic or pessimistic about things. Both are entitled to it but I really don't have a lot of respect for the small group of eternal sunshiners that run about chastising and criticizing the other side. It has become more than opinion for them. Almost like its their job to rid the world of "negative nancys", they bump every thread with sarcastic remarks and shoot down any poster who doesn't propagate the "all is well" mantra.

Not really a big fan of it. I think its pretty ridiculous to just crap in someone's face because they want to be pissed about things.


Spot on post.
 

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Cogan;2992990 said:
I've been a Cowboys fan since 1965. I'm sorry, but I just got spoiled. They had 20 years of non-losing football, going to the Super Bowl 5 times in the '70s. Then came the '90s & 3 more trips to the Big Show. I used to watching winning football from the Dallas Cowboys. I will accept nothing less. This is NOT winning football.

This team has the horses to win it all, which makes it harder to watch. They don't lack talent, they lack heart. Stupid penalties and mediocre play cannot be tolerated. Jones needs to crack the whip & get these players worried about their jobs.

Iffin I had the words to express myself, the ones above would be the ones.
Yes, you said it better than anyone I have heard lately.

And it is telling that you wrote: "Jones needs to crack the whip."
Most fans would refer to the HC cracking the whip, but that is what we are reduced to: hoping the owner/GM cracks the whip instead of some portly, clueless, mildly detached HC in sleek sunglasses.

The part of this team having the horses to win and that made it harder to wach was difficult to read because IT IS SO TRUE.

Bravo! Well said, well done. And to think that so many of us looked forward to this game as the one when we'd put it all together.
I guessed Barber and Choice would have 210 yards combined rushing and got egg on mah face. This is how uninspired these players were. Two elite rushes who never got over 100 yards combined.

Shame!
Shame on Wade.
And shame on jerra for putting up with this so-far horrific season and HC. I'd consider KC a gimme game, but not no more.:mad:
 

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zrinkill;2993021 said:
No I do not

Now go troll somewhere else ..... I was told to let you hang yourself.


lol

Must have been doing some lobbying to get me banned huh?


and

Clearly you do... ;)
 

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MrMom;2993042 said:
Spot on post.


Just to add sincerely, anyone who religously watches this team since 1996 has really lost out on seeing quality Cowboys' football. I feel sorry for the Fan who hasn't seen real Dallas Cowboys Football.



For long long ago there once was a Football Team.....:starspin
 

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theebs;2992823 said:
Except this is the same group of guys that finish games the exact same way and find ways to lose instead of ways to win.

I love this team. I love alot of the players. I love everything about romo.

Having said that, I have no doubt this season is going downhill. I also have no doubt we can not compete with ny and philly and we basically are already out of the race in the east.

I cant imagine what makes any fan expect different results.

When bradie james sits in the locker room and says We dont know how to do it, that tells us all we need to know. They dont know how or what they are missing, why they are making mistakes nor how to correct them. And the people in charge have no idea either.

This quote says everything that I've been thinking, all season long.

I mean, yeah, the season's young and all, but looking at the last two years....not a single thing has changed. Still the same average team out there week after week. Still a bunch of dummies running around with their heads cut off. Still the same team to put up huge numbers against bad teams and cannot win vs. the good ones. Always on the verge of winning, but never quite there. Always shooting themselves in the foot; always almost making a play but never quite
 

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Gaede;2993072 said:
This quote says everything that I've been thinking, all season long.

I mean, yeah, the season's young and all, but looking at the last two years....not a single thing has changed. Still the same average team out there week after week. Still a bunch of dummies running around with their heads cut off. Still the same team to put up huge numbers against bad teams and cannot win vs. the good ones. Always on the verge of winning, but never quite there. Always shooting themselves in the foot; always almost making a play but never quite

Both of your quotes summed it up for me. The sunshine crowd will look at it and say "Hey, look, it's only week 4. There's still time". The rest of us see the same underachieving team. Mathematically, yes, the Cowboys still have a chance. But, to anyone actually WATCHING THIS TEAM, we are seeing nothing new. We barely missed the playoffs by one game last year. This team, so far, is even worse. I don't even think it's debatable (though some will debate).
 

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We need to make a distinction between an overreaction and a statement of harsh reality.

In my opinion, it's not overreaction to state that the Cowboys are a .500 team; their record over the past 24 games bears that out.
 

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ScipioCowboy;2993087 said:
We need to make a distinction between an overreaction and a statement of harsh reality.

In my opinion, it's not overreaction to state that the Cowboys are a .500 team; their record over the past 24 games bears that out.

That's not going to go over well with the Lollipop Guild.

I can hear em now. "We represent........
 

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ScipioCowboy;2993087 said:
We need to make a distinction between an overreaction and a statement of harsh reality.

In my opinion, it's not overreaction to state that the Cowboys are a .500 team; their record over the past 24 games bears that out.

No ****. And it goes without saying that under-reacting is just as annoying, unwelcome, and counter-productive. When you spend much more time defending the team after a hideous loss than skewering them, you got yourself a credibility problem. 24 hours later, certain people still can't bring themselves to hold the team or front office accountable. Hopeless.
 

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Wade has PROVEN, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that he does not have what it takes to lead an NFL team.

There is no point in denying it anymore and there is no point in telling those of us calling a spade a spade that we are overreacting. He should have been fired before we left Philly last December and everybody here damn well knows it. Whether or not you are willing to admit it is your business, but there is not a soul here who believes deep down that Wade Phillips has any business coaching the Dallas Cowboys.
 

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The30YardSlant;2993117 said:
Wade has PROVEN, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that he does not have what it takes to lead an NFL team.

Now that I agree with.
 

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Furthermore, Garrett has proven his inability to adapt once a defense figures him out. I am 100% confident that myself and at least half the posters here could call a more logical and successful offensive gameplan than he does week in and week out.

For instance, we are tearing the Broncos apart with screen passes in the first quarter, so what do we do? We run ONE screen play the rest of the game, and it's a bubble screen. We are chewing them up on middle and tackle runs, so Garrett decides that success is overrated and decides to start running sweeps, tosses and overly complicated draws.
 

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Coakleys Dad;2992856 said:
I couldn't have said it better myself, I consider myself a very positive poster, but if anyone believes the culture here is changing is wrong, this team is is disarray- they are ill-prepared, have no killer instinct and are horribly coached on both sides if the ball..(except special teams). Romo looks hesitant, dis oriented and confused and is a lousy leader and that's where it starts on the team. Defense had the same coverage problems every week and there is no consequence or accountability for errors. No, I don't want to rout for another team, I love my team so much that it ruins my Monday and Tuesday when they lose, I just wish they cared as much as we do.

This!
 

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Cogan;2992990 said:
I've been a Cowboys fan since 1965. I'm sorry, but I just got spoiled. They had 20 years of non-losing football, going to the Super Bowl 5 times in the '70s. Then came the '90s & 3 more trips to the Big Show. I used to watching winning football from the Dallas Cowboys. I will accept nothing less. This is NOT winning football.

This team has the horses to win it all, which makes it harder to watch. They don't lack talent, they lack heart. Stupid penalties and mediocre play cannot be tolerated. Jones needs to crack the whip & get these players worried about their jobs.

No the talent is average or maybe below. The 3rd string players on the Cowboys get more publicity than most 1st stringers on other teams. Doesn't make Austin any better, but 90% of the debate in the offseason was how he was the new "threat". The talent is just not that good. If we were that much more talented than everyone, we would turn it on like the Cowboys of the early 90s. The talent pool has no margin for error
 

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skinsscalper;2993078 said:
Both of your quotes summed it up for me. The sunshine crowd will look at it and say "Hey, look, it's only week 4. There's still time". The rest of us see the same underachieving team. Mathematically, yes, the Cowboys still have a chance. But, to anyone actually WATCHING THIS TEAM, we are seeing nothing new. We barely missed the playoffs by one game last year. This team, so far, is even worse. I don't even think it's debatable (though some will debate).

Exactly, we missed th playoffs by 1 game last year and B Johnson was the 1 game. He was here at the request of Garrett. Sadly, I posted this about 6 months ago, this team will only be as good as Felix Jones. The passing game has been crap since 2007 Dec Philly game. The only new ingredient last year was Felix (3-0 after the first 3 games last year and he scored in each). The moment he went out (or wasn't played - Wash#1), we stunk offensively.

There are 0 homerun threats on the field if he is out. Say what you will about TO, he still had more longer TDs (>25 yds) than anyone last year. The way this team looks now, I don't know if a WR will see another one unlesss it is busted play (ala Hurd, Tampa Bay)
 

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zrinkill;2992765 said:
A little perspective on the overreaction.

Look at this thread ..... and look at the posters and what they are saying about the subject of that thread.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63678

Look familiar?

There are hundreds of threads just like these ...... and the same people always react the same way.

Everyone has the right to be upset about the way this team is playing...... and everyone has the right to express it.

EVERYONE ..... including those that prefer to have hope.

Just remember that and do not let the few, very loud people who always over react and always jump to negative conclusions, get you down.

There is reason to be hopeful, there is reason to believe that this team, with the right motivation, can turn this season around.

There are still 12 games left to play.

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Good post.
I have given my share of "after game" criticism, as well as some positive things also.
But as you said there are 12 games left.

I always think back to the 1990 season. We were 3-7. No hope right? Then we reel off 4 straight wins. Need 1 win to make the playoffs. Aikman gets hurt at Philly. we lose. Laufenberg starts at Atlanta, he sucked, we lose.
Still at 7-9, we can make it. If the Rams beat the Saints, which they almost did. A last second FG was missed by Morten anderson, but a flag on the Rams....next time he made it. Saints go in at 8-8 instead of us at 7-9.....we have plenty of games left.
 

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jazzcat22;2993220 said:
Good post.
I have given my share of "after game" criticism, as well as some positive things also.
But as you said there are 12 games left.

I always think back to the 1990 season. We were 3-7. No hope right? Then we reel off 4 straight wins. Need 1 win to make the playoffs. Aikman gets hurt at Philly. we lose. Laufenberg starts at Atlanta, he sucked, we lose.
Still at 7-9, we can make it. If the Rams beat the Saints, which they almost did. A last second FG was missed by Morten anderson, but a flag on the Rams....next time he made it. Saints go in at 8-8 instead of us at 7-9.....we have plenty of games left.

Is that really the scenario that is going to make you proud? Backing in at 7-9?

Expectations have really been lowered - even for the sunshines
 

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McLovin;2993227 said:
Is that really the scenario that is going to make you proud? Backing in at 7-9?

Expectations have really been lowered - even for the sunshines

No it does not make me proud. I actually thought it was better we didn't make the playoffs under those circumstances. But at the time as a fan, that's what you root for....get a chance....

I was just making a statement in comparison. Even at 3-7, there is a chance at 2-2.
 

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When you have players saying the urgency needs to start during the week, it tells me all I need to know. This coach does not demand any accountability or discipline on the practice field so how is anything going to get better come every Sunday or Monday night?
 
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