CFZ A new OC will be great for the team

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The entire organization doesn’t want Dak running. They want him sitting in the pocket passing and he is very mediocre as a pure pocket passer.

This is the overall post right here, THEY DON'T WANT HIM GETTING HURT, injuries happen
 

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I see your point, but Moore was trying to turn Dak into a pass first QB. Dak bought into it, even though that's not his strength. He only threw 4 ints his rookie season with a run game and as a game manager....Moore had his chance, couldn't coach him up...good move in my opinion.
The desperation is letting 7 or 8 coaches go....I think that's to much turnover
I agree with your post 100% my only issue is that the instructions to turn Dak into a human stat machine came down from the top. These guys are only doing what they are told.
 

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I’m very concerned on both of those.

Ehhh…maybe the way to view it is either it’ll provide some sort of spark over the next two seasons or we will be able to move on by then.

We are strangled by the Prescott contract, but luckily it’s not all that long of a deal….thanks to his own greed. At least he has done something for us lol.
I admire your ability to see the positive side. I am not a huge McCarthy fan but I feel for the guy when this whole thing kinda implodes in '23 because of his limited QB.

By all these staff moves, at least it looks like there is an attempt being made to let McCarthy go out on his own terms instead of Coach Jones calling ALL the shots.

When it all comes crumbling down because of the QB at least McCarthy can say he did his best to do it his way. I can actually respect that instead of being the spineless yes man puppet he has been for the last 3 years.
 

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So we all know the Garrett / Linehan / Moore was stale. We knew it for 12 years now. Except when when the made sure to have a run game, only to abandon it too many times. It was predictable, and how many times and years have defensive players say this.

Dak and others, especially Dak, and Moore were so accustom and comfortable with it. I think they all became lazy. Just go out and go through the motion, beat your man mentality. Which was out after the 90's SB's.

Now a new OC, and a new scheme, will force the players and especially Dak, to prove they are worth their pay and to retain.
Will it spark them to be better to keep their jobs here.

In the business world there is nothing like cutbacks and layoffs, to light a fire for some to perform better, as they do not want to be next on the chopping block. Yes, pro sports is much different with guaranteed contracts. But it is still the same basic principal. No one wants to be told ...we don't need you anymore for lack of performance...
Very well said. Agree totally. I remember reading so many people on here bashing Moore all season, but once he's let go everybody's crying about why he was let go- LOL. What a mistake it is, etc- give me a break. Time for a change. We already have bipolar Dak - we don't need a bipolar OC too. They had their shot.. Can only go so far with Dak/Moore combo. Dak with his contract isn't going anywhere - so shake things up and bring in a new play caller. Makes sense, now is the time.
Tired of hearing about all these offensive rankings, where the offense finished rankings wise, etc. Stats are for losers. There were 4 offenses still alive who who played Sunday, and the Boys weren't one of them, yet again- thats all that matters. Unless you've played the same exact teams as someone, how can you really compare offenses by those stats, lol - its like basing things off point differential. Means nothing - wins are all that counts in this league. Stats are misleading.
 

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I mean there were reports out of GB that McCarthy's offense had grown stale when he was fired. That sounds kinda familiar, no?

The tremendously productive seasons Rodgers had immediately following McCarthy's firing can not go un mentioned as well.

I mean, I know it's Aaron Rodgers, but still...
 

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So we all know the Garrett / Linehan / Moore was stale. We knew it for 12 years now. Except when when the made sure to have a run game, only to abandon it too many times. It was predictable, and how many times and years have defensive players say this.

Dak and others, especially Dak, and Moore were so accustom and comfortable with it. I think they all became lazy. Just go out and go through the motion, beat your man mentality. Which was out after the 90's SB's.

Now a new OC, and a new scheme, will force the players and especially Dak, to prove they are worth their pay and to retain.
Will it spark them to be better to keep their jobs here.

In the business world there is nothing like cutbacks and layoffs, to light a fire for some to perform better, as they do not want to be next on the chopping block. Yes, pro sports is much different with guaranteed contracts. But it is still the same basic principal. No one wants to be told ...we don't need you anymore for lack of performance...
do you need to see more of Dak to see that? Come on!!! no kidding
 

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It just seems like an act of desperation.

There was nothing wrong with Kellen Moore.

Is he Andy Reid? No.. But he is at worst average offensive coordinator.
Let me guess: you think firing Jerry is the only answer.
 

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So we all know the Garrett / Linehan / Moore was stale. We knew it for 12 years now. Except when when the made sure to have a run game, only to abandon it too many times. It was predictable, and how many times and years have defensive players say this.

Dak and others, especially Dak, and Moore were so accustom and comfortable with it. I think they all became lazy. Just go out and go through the motion, beat your man mentality. Which was out after the 90's SB's.

Now a new OC, and a new scheme, will force the players and especially Dak, to prove they are worth their pay and to retain.
Will it spark them to be better to keep their jobs here.

In the business world there is nothing like cutbacks and layoffs, to light a fire for some to perform better, as they do not want to be next on the chopping block. Yes, pro sports is much different with guaranteed contracts. But it is still the same basic principal. No one wants to be told ...we don't need you anymore for lack of performance...
Thank you for a somewhat positive thread. Very rare these days.
 

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It just seems like an act of desperation.

There was nothing wrong with Kellen Moore.

Is he Andy Reid? No.. But he is at worst average offensive coordinator.
You still haven’t answered my question. Since there’s no chance the Cowboys win as long as the Jones are in charge, why the hell are you here? You’ve given up.
 

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I mean there were reports out of GB that McCarthy's offense had grown stale when he was fired. That sounds kinda familiar, no?

The tremendously productive seasons Rodgers had immediately following McCarthy's firing can not go un mentioned as well.

I mean, I know it's Aaron Rodgers, but still...
Rodgers has stats and wins in a weak division since MM was let go. AR has not been back to the SB since.
 

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Cowboys will not be able to hire an established OC…NFL knows this is McCartheys lame duck year…best they will do is bringing in someone like Nixon who wants the OC title and experience for his resume.
 

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You're still stuck in the regular season.
Exactly- there are two seasons- and the playoffs are the one that counts. The regular season is necessary for qualifying for the playoffs and getting seeded well in them - thats it. Padding meaningless stats during the regular season against bad teams means nothing come playoff time. There are no Texans and Bears in the playoffs.
 

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It just seems like an act of desperation.

There was nothing wrong with Kellen Moore.

Is he Andy Reid? No.. But he is at worst average offensive coordinator.

Wow, that's about the same argument people use against Dak. Apparently, it only applies to players.
 

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Rodgers has stats and wins in a weak division since MM was let go. AR has not been back to the SB since.
I see how you tie the McCarthy and Rodgers pairing to the SB win.

It is true that Rodgers has not accomplished an overall trophy since that time, BUT has achieved multiple postseason victories.

McCarthy has won ONE playoff game in his last 5 years of coaching.

I do not think Dak can be coached up to a Rodgers level of performance.
Nor do I think Dak Prescott can win 4 consecutive playoff games regardless of HC, OC, DC or supporting cast.

But that's just me.
 

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I see how you tie the McCarthy and Rodgers pairing to the SB win.

It is true that Rodgers has not accomplished an overall trophy since that time, BUT has achieved multiple postseason victories.

McCarthy has won ONE playoff game in his last 5 years of coaching.

I do not think Dak can be coached up to a Rodgers level of performance.
Nor do I think Dak Prescott can win 4 consecutive playoff games regardless of HC, OC, DC or supporting cast.

But that's just me.
I was not comparing QB's directly. Dak is what he is. He needs a better surrounding team than what AR needs. However, AR did not look so great with a lesser team.
I would still take him though as our QB for a year or so.
 
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