A TO (On The Field Only Discussion) Thread

[gbrittain]

We all know the TO to Dallas rumors. We all know his baggage. Those two items have been discussed and that horse beat to death.

My question is, if the rumors are true how different are the Cowboys on the field with TO in the lineup? How much different is our offense? How much better are we on the field as a team? Does our offense become an elite offense? Do your expectations of what Dallas can accomplish next year change with TO playing?

Please, please please do not turn this into TO is a dirt bag thread. Not that it is not worthy of discussion, but there are probably over 100 threads dedicated to that subject.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

No different if we cant protect the QB. Our O line and the word elite?

 

[Doomsday101]

We all know the TO to Dallas rumors. We all know his baggage. Those two items have been discussed and that horse beat to death.

My question is, if the rumors are true how different are the Cowboys on the field with TO in the lineup? How much different is our offense? How much better are we on the field as a team? Does our offense become an elite offense? Do your expectations of what Dallas can accomplish next year change with TO playing?

Please, please please do not turn this into TO is a dirt bag thread. Not that it is not worthy of discussion, but there are probably over 100 threads dedicated to that subject.

If we don't get the line fixed and get our running game going I don't think it matters.

 

[Alexander]

My question is, if the rumors are true how different are the Cowboys on the field with TO in the lineup? How much different is our offense? How much better are we on the field as a team? Does our offense become an elite offense? Do your expectations of what Dallas can accomplish next year change with TO playing?

Owens represents a threat at WR that we do not currently possess. Someone every defense must respect in the passing game.

That is why I am willing to put aside the concerns. We have a punchless offense and until that changes, we will not be contending for anything other than slightly above average.

There simply are not any other options that are even remotely close, either in free agency or the draft that could provide his ability. If there were, I would not even speak about the possibility of acquiring his services.

 

[gbrittain]

No different if we cant protect the QB. Our O line and the word elite?

I would hopefully assume that the OL will be fixed to a degree. If the OL is not fixed at all then all of those Kool Aid drinkers better quit sipping the good stuff.

 

[Apollo Creed]

Terry Glenn wouldn't have to face double teams if Owens came to Dallas, so he should be promoting this move more than anyone.

 

[chinch]

Owens represents a threat at WR that we do not currently possess. Someone every defense must respect in the passing game.

That is why I am willing to put aside the concerns. We have a punchless offense and until that changes, we will not be contending for anything other than slightly above average.

There simply are not any other options that are even remotely close, either in free agency or the draft that could provide his ability. If there were, I would not even speak about the possibility of acquiring his services.

Bingo.

Our defense is too young to make up for a "punchless offense" over a long season. It will keep us in every game however.

This would absolutely improve our OL 'cause dump off pass can be a TD. Redzone changes dramatically. You guys all saw how Philly's O was "functional" for the first time since Donny was QB.

Tuna can handle him so lets get this done Jerry

 

[1fisher]

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[Idgit]

If we don't get the line fixed and get our running game going I don't think it matters.

Obviously, we need to fix the oline. Getting Flozell back raises the line to the level of adequate, though, and both Jerry and Parcells have already commented on the need to shore up the OL generally.

The running game, though, is the primary reason why I think we will sign TO. Whatever I may think about 81, I'm excited about what he presence does for Julius Jones.

 

[Doomsday101]

Obviously, we need to fix the oline. Getting Flozell back raises the line to the level of adequate, though, and both Jerry and Parcells have already commented on the need to shore up the OL generally.

The running game, though, is the primary reason why I think we will sign TO. Whatever I may think about 81, I'm excited about what he presence does for Julius Jones.

I can't say I feel that way because I don't want him here but I will not turn this thread into debate on should we or shouldn't we get him.

 

[gbrittain]

I can't say I feel that way because I don't want him here but I will not turn this thread into debate on should we or shouldn't we get him.

I will not turn this thread into debate on should we or shouldn't we get him

You Da Man!!! Thanks

 

[Doomsday101]

You Da Man!!! Thanks

Your welcome. I have made me feeling known on other threads so no need to say it again on this one

 

[Yeagermeister]

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[gbrittain]

Your welcome. I have made me feeling known on other threads so no need to say it again on this one

Same here. I just want to know if it is pretty much a done deal that TO will be a Cowboy then what can we expect on the field. Hopefully, that makes this thread a little different then hundreds of previous TO threads.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I think it's practically impossible to consider TO's on-field-only impact, because you can't get that without the trainwreck he is off it.

But just to play along...

I want to know who Parcells benches to play Owens. Does he sit Keyshawn or Terry? If he benches Key, #19 might become as disruptive as Owens would be. If he benches Glenn, we don't gain much because we still only have one WR threat on the field.

And if he dares to bench Owens...
:explode:

And we all know Parcells won't be running 3-WR sets as a base offense any time soon.

So how does this work? It's why I can't see it happening. If we want to upgrade at WR, which I think we need to do, the only option I see is for it to be via the draft. A rookie won't feel entitled, won't be disruptive, and can be worked in slowly, which fits perfectly in our situation.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

T.O's biggest strength is that he can catch a rather short route pass and consistently turn it into a big play. He's also good at the deep ball, but I wouldn't say he's outstanding like Steve Smith. It's more or less that opposing corners have to be so conscious of him catching a short route ball, that it sets him up as a deep threat.

His hands can be a bit questionable and if he doesn't like the way things are going, he'll quit on running routes at times.

He's really best suited for the WCO, but I believe he can fit into just about any scheme.

But to me I don't think he's the big need right now. In order to get him, you'd probably have to get rid of Keyshawn. And while Keyshawn isn't the player he once was, he's too good of a run blocker and we need all of the run blocking help we can get. Furthermore, last season he was almost like an H-Back as he often times was up against the O-Line helping in pass protection. Quite frankly, he is by far the best blocking WR I've ever seen.

From what I've seen out of Bledsoe over his career, especially lately, is that his big strengths is that he doesn't need a good running game or good WR corps to be effective. What he needs is good pass protection. Unfortunately, if the pass protection is "average", his effectiveness dips greatly.

If we had a good pass protecting O-Line, giving Bledsoe Terrell Owens to catch the ball would be like giving Superman brass knuckles.

But the again, if we had a good O-Line that could pass protect and open holes for the running game, Bledsoe would already have those brass knuckles.

Rich...........

 

[JonJon]

Owens represents a threat at WR that we do not currently possess. Someone every defense must respect in the passing game.

That is why I am willing to put aside the concerns. We have a punchless offense and until that changes, we will not be contending for anything other than slightly above average.

There simply are not any other options that are even remotely close, either in free agency or the draft that could provide his ability. If there were, I would not even speak about the possibility of acquiring his services.

Exactly. Not only will it take pressure off of Bledsoe, but Owens would demand respect from the defense and free up the other recievers like Glenn and Crayton. Of course this may spell the end of Keyshawn, which I would hate to see go, but it would make us a much more dangerous team and Super Bowl contenders.

Also, having Owens will take the pressure off the running game and allow Jones and Barber more opportunities and bigger gaps in the defensse to do dameage. With Owens and Glenn on opposite sides, and possibly Crayton in the slot, teams couldn't afford to stack 8 in the box anymore, because that would leave too many one on one coverages and they would get burned consistently.

It would also lower the amount of blitzes that we see, and would give Bledsoe a little more time to find the open reciever.

Now, assuming that the offenseive line is upgraded this year, we could then take Witten back from off the line to help out with blocking, and he can get back to being a pro-bowl recieving tight end. Just imagine our passing game with:

• A protected Bledsoe from the line
• Owens drawing double coverage on one side
• Glenn man to man on one side
• Crayton in the slot
• Witten man to man with a LB

With an improved O-line, that increases the success of the running game even more. To those that still doubt JJ's ability, even though he has been injured a lot, he still put up 993 yards in 13 games with a very sub par line to work with, and many times against 8 in the box. In two years, he has totaled 1812 yards. Barber also chipped in 538 yards himself last year. Could you imagine the running explosiveness of both players if we had anything ressembling an O-line, and no pressure from a stacked defensive front? Scarrry. All this can come from an improved O-line and Owens in the line up.

Get it done, Jerry

ray2:

 

[Alexander]

I think it's practically impossible to consider TO's on-field-only impact, because you can't get that without the trainwreck he is off it.

But just to play along...

I want to know who Parcells benches to play Owens. Does he sit Keyshawn or Terry? If he benches Key, #19 might become as disruptive as Owens would be. If he benches Glenn, we don't gain much because we still only have one WR threat on the field.

And if he dares to bench Owens...
:explode:

And we all know Parcells won't be running 3-WR sets as a base offense any time soon.

So how does this work? It's why I can't see it happening. If we want to upgrade at WR, which I think we need to do, the only option I see is for it to be via the draft. A rookie won't feel entitled, won't be disruptive, and can be worked in slowly, which fits perfectly in our situation.

So basically you are suggesting that no matter what, we have the same two starters as last year.

If that is the case, we are wasting our time with a number one draft choice at WR as well.

It isn't just the circumstances with Owens, it is the fact we have two players embedded like ticks at split end and flanker?

 

[gbrittain]

I think it's practically impossible to consider TO's on-field-only impact, because you can't get that without the trainwreck he is off it.

But just to play along...

I want to know who Parcells benches to play Owens. Does he sit Keyshawn or Terry? If he benches Key, #19 might become as disruptive as Owens would be. If he benches Glenn, we don't gain much because we still only have one WR threat on the field.

And If he dares to bench Owens...
:explode:

And we know Parcells won't be running 3-WR sets as a base offense any time soon.

So how does this work? It's why I can't see it happening. If we want to upgrade at WR, which I think we need to do, the only option I see is for it to be via the draft. A rookie won't feel entitled and can be worked in slowly, which fits perfectly in our situation.

Thanks for playing along. I too have wondered what BP would do with either Key or Terry. I dont think putting TO on the bench would even be in the equation, if that were in the equation I would say Jerry and BP have officialy lost it.

 

[Yeagermeister]

I think it's practically impossible to consider TO's on-field-only impact, because you can't get that without the trainwreck he is off it.

But just to play along...

I want to know who Parcells benches to play Owens. Does he sit Keyshawn or Terry? If he benches Key, #19 might become as disruptive as Owens would be. If he benches Glenn, we don't gain much because we still only have one WR threat on the field.

And if he dares to bench Owens...
:explode:

And we all know Parcells won't be running 3-WR sets as a base offense any time soon.

So how does this work? It's why I can't see it happening. If we want to upgrade at WR, which I think we need to do, the only option I see is for it to be via the draft. A rookie won't feel entitled, won't be disruptive, and can be worked in slowly, which fits perfectly in our situation.

Stop it you are making sense :laugh2: