A Touch of Reality: Blind Homers and Rose Colored Glasses need not enter

[Hostile]

Love the thread title.

Sorry, I'm probably one of the people who was not welcome.

 

[Joe Realist]

Shining Star, can I call you Shiny?

You are the idiotic one as you don't get the posts. You can't even sniff the Super Bowl if you don't have leadership and accountability as well as good coaching. Do we have that? No

Have the Cowboys won any playoff games since you 1996? No

Do you REALLY believe that this version of the Cowboys (like many before them) will get over the hump? Maybe you do. I do not

But If it makes you feel better, I'll come over, give you some warm milk, tuck you in and read you some Roger Staubach bedtime stories and you can dream about how this current version of the Cowboys will run roughshod over the rest of the league starting next week.. Heck, you may even wake up in a cold sweat calling out, "WADEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!"

 

[Joe Realist]

Love the thread title.

Sorry, I'm probably one of the people who was not welcome.

You are always welcome. I am unsure where the inspiration arose from...

 

[Joe Realist]

Love the thread title.

Sorry, I'm probably one of the people who was not welcome.

BTW - What happened to my countdown clock?

 

[ShiningStar]

Shining Star, can I call you Shiny?

You are the idiotic one as you don't get the posts. You can't even sniff the Super Bowl if you don't have leadership and accountability as well as good coaching. Do we have that? No

Have the Cowboys won any playoff games since you 1996? No

Do you REALLY believe that this version of the Cowboys (like many before them) will get over the hump? Maybe you do. I do not

But If it makes you feel better, I'll come over, give you some warm milk, tuck you in and read you some Roger Staubach bedtime stories and you can dream about how this current version of the Cowboys will run roughshod over the rest of the league starting next week.. Heck, you may even wake up in a cold sweat calling out, "WADEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!"

Stop proving me right, its getting annoying tonite. im so sorry we faced the so called best defense in the NFL and we could beat it. So its a lesson learned, and hopefully we did.

We faced the Giants and lost and i am happy about that because the previous years when we came out on fire we fluttered in the end. As i pointed out to you, id rather have our problems now and iron them out than in december when you run out of time.

You would remember when your team came out red hot a few years ago and did well til the Steelers figured out the Eagles and down they went after that.

Dallas has started out hot recently and faltered down the stretch, again, id rather they do that and get in together in December instead of failining.

I have news for you, all, except 1 of them, all the SB teams had losses along with their wins. 2 losses will not kill us if we learned from them. Losing to Denver was nothing to be ashamed of. Again, the Giants loss was better, because id rather beat them in the second game, but you FAIL to realize this, i understand, you dont understand the game of football and that teams will lose.

 

[Joe Realist]

Stop proving me right, its getting annoying tonite. im so sorry we faced the so called best defense in the NFL and we could beat it. So its a lesson learned, and hopefully we did.

We faced the Giants and lost and i am happy about that because the previous years when we came out on fire we fluttered in the end. As i pointed out to you, id rather have our problems now and iron them out than in december when you run out of time.

You would remember when your team came out red hot a few years ago and did well til the Steelers figured out the Eagles and down they went after that.

Dallas has started out hot recently and faltered down the stretch, again, id rather they do that and get in together in December instead of failining.

I have news for you, all, except 1 of them, all the SB teams had losses along with their wins. 2 losses will not kill us if we learned from them. Losing to Denver was nothing to be ashamed of. Again, the Giants loss was better, because id rather beat them in the second game, but you FAIL to realize this, i understand, you dont understand the game of football and that teams will lose.

I understand teams lose. What makes you think the problems will be fixed by Decemeber? You are betting against a disturbing trend.

I also understand you believe this team can win the Super Bowl. That's ok. The train is coming. Keep looking at the pretty light.....

 

[ShiningStar]

I understand teams lose. I also understand you believe this team can win the Super Bowl. That's ok. The train is coming. Keep looking at the pretty light.....

The Giants proved it, you dont even have to beat a good team during the season if you hit all the bad teams at the right time.

Math, much as it eludes you, does effect the season.

Teams can lose, teams can learn, teams get second chances in their division. This is simple stuff that happens every year.

I dont care if Dallas wins the Sb, i dont root for SB's i root for my team. And, if you are still a fan of the Eagles, you would understand. Its about our teams, not what they do.

I dont get paid if Dallas wins, I dont buy product to give millionaires more money. I dont receive a check for playoff wins. I am a fan, win or lose, I enjoy myself, you may hate it, but i dont.

You brought up the SB wins and says I believe they can do it and yes every team gets that chance at first, than its narrowed down, but win or lose DaLLAS IS MY TEAM if you dont like it, GET OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Joe Realist]

The Giants proved it, you dont even have to beat a good team during the season if you hit all the bad teams at the right time.

Math, much as it eludes you, does effect the season.

Teams can lose, teams can learn, teams get second chances in their division. This is simple stuff that happens every year.

I dont care if Dallas wins the Sb, i dont root for SB's i root for my team. And, if you are still a fan of the Eagles, you would understand. Its about our teams, not what they do.

I dont get paid if Dallas wins, I dont buy product to give millionaires more money. I dont receive a check for playoff wins. I am a fan, win or lose, I enjoy myself, you may hate it, but i dont.

You brought up the SB wins and says I believe they can do it and yes every team gets that chance at first, than its narrowed down, but win or lose DaLLAS IS MY TEAM if you dont like it, GET OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We agree on one thing. Dallas is our team, that's it.
Listen, if you are ever feeling down and upset at your head coach, just play this and you will be ok. Shiny, you will be ok....Good night and sweet dreams of Wade, cupcake.

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[kramskoi]

Don't get me wrong, Dooms, I still cheer for them and I always have and will (since 1976, in fact).

I still have my T Dorsett rookie cards, etc.

And let me tell you, I hope they prove me wrong. (and I've been saying that for what seems a long, long time)

But trying to be objective, given what we know of this team for the past few years, this year seems to be a similar pattern.

For whatever reason, and it's not just Romo's fault, or Wade's fault, or the Secondary's fault, this team just doesn't seem to have what it takes to deal with pressure.

And it's not solely based on being 2-2 this year. But this year thus far seems to be like groundhog day - it happens every year, if you know what I mean.

Of course, one day we will turn that corner. I have no doubt.

But hand on heart, I doubt it's going to be with Wade as our HC.

...i'm a firm believer in teams taking on the characteristics of it's head coach...read into that what you desire...

 

[kramskoi]

Stop proving me right, its getting annoying tonite. im so sorry we faced the so called best defense in the NFL and we could beat it. So its a lesson learned, and hopefully we did.

We faced the Giants and lost and i am happy about that because the previous years when we came out on fire we fluttered in the end. As i pointed out to you, id rather have our problems now and iron them out than in december when you run out of time.

You would remember when your team came out red hot a few years ago and did well til the Steelers figured out the Eagles and down they went after that.

Dallas has started out hot recently and faltered down the stretch, again, id rather they do that and get in together in December instead of failining.

I have news for you, all, except 1 of them, all the SB teams had losses along with their wins. 2 losses will not kill us if we learned from them. Losing to Denver was nothing to be ashamed of. Again, the Giants loss was better, because id rather beat them in the second game, but you FAIL to realize this, i understand, you dont understand the game of football and that teams will lose.

"We faced the Giants and lost and i am happy about that"

i don't understand how you can be happy about Dallas losing a game at home, to a division rival...one that they should've won...one that could make the difference between post season and off season...this makes no sense to me...the Cowboys can't afford the luxury of losing ANY games, especially ones where they are expected to win...

...you are under the assumption that Dallas will go to the Meadowlands later this winter and have the W already in their pockets...the way they are playing currently the season could be over by then...injuries to key players at inopportune times could further undermine this team's effort to close the gap with Philadelphia and New York...

...there is no standard of excellence set right now in Dallas...and this starts at the top...you won't get it from Wade Phillips...i can promise you that...

 

[billknows]

I understand your pessimism but no hope is not a strategy.

Nice one

 

[RainMan]

Not too worried, our top two R Bs were out as well as our #1 WR ,bad play calling and bad breaks .Romo was off his game . If O U can win the rest of the yr in college with two early losses ,i like our chances.
We make the playoffs and do well ,This team will be better...

Welcome to the forum, Wade.

 

[Fletch]

What we witnessed yesterday is another example of a team that lacks character, heart and a kill attitude. We have seen it before in recent years, yet many of you still hold out hope that things will change. You say we have more talent than most teams. Do we really? I dont think so.

Last year we had 44-6, so we cleaned house. Blah Blah. Nothing has changed.

Put the Cowboys Kool-Aid down. 2007 was a mirage as well as the 13 Pro-Bowlers that came with it. The Cowboys are an average team with a decent QB who in my opinion still does not get it. Is he all to blame, of course not.

From top down, the Cowboys do not display the strength it takes to get it done. What do I mean? When other teams (say Eagles and Giants) go through rough stretches, they have the leadership in coaching, front office and player to ride it out and come back. How many times have we written the Birds off only to see them rally and make a run? That does not happen here.

Our team makeup does not have that intestinal fortitude. When players are not held accountable because a.) your coach is a figurehead, or b.) you can go over his head to the big BOSS, that is not a good thing. Heck, I haven't even mentioned who controls the draft.

Think about that in your work lives. What if you are a manager and your employees go over head, you have no power nor command any respect.

What we also witnessed yesterday is the end of the Wade Phillips regime. As I have stated before, I have viewed 2009 as a transition year. They will run more and put less pressure on Romo. In theory it sounds good, but Romo has not been great this year. I still think he can improve (better than the dark ages of 2000-2005) and am willing to give him through 2010. He needs a QB coach that can work with him and make him capable of realizing his full potential.

So they will win some games this year and lose others. They are not a playoff team. The Cowboys are more pretenders than anything else. 2010 will bring about some new coaches and players, but if nothing changes at the top, expect the same old same old.

I would love to be wrong about them but I don't think I am.

Stop living for the nineties. It was a long, long time ago.

Season ain't over yet. I'll give up like most everyone else in here after our last game.

 

[stilltheguru]

Season ain't over yet. I'll give up like most everyone else in here after our last game.

The team will probrably give up before you. How does that feel?:laugh2:

 

[Oh_Canada]

Couldn't agree more Realist. This team is far too undisciplined, sloppy and heartless to make any serious run this season. Hopefully, our misguided owner can have the fortitude to take serious inventory of his awful decisions and start correcting those mistakes in the offseason.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

What we witnessed yesterday is another example of a team that lacks character, heart and a kill attitude. We have seen it before in recent years, yet many of you still hold out hope that things will change. You say we have more talent than most teams. Do we really? I dont think so.

Last year we had 44-6, so we cleaned house. Blah Blah. Nothing has changed.

Put the Cowboys Kool-Aid down. 2007 was a mirage as well as the 13 Pro-Bowlers that came with it. The Cowboys are an average team with a decent QB who in my opinion still does not get it. Is he all to blame, of course not.

From top down, the Cowboys do not display the strength it takes to get it done. What do I mean? When other teams (say Eagles and Giants) go through rough stretches, they have the leadership in coaching, front office and player to ride it out and come back. How many times have we written the Birds off only to see them rally and make a run? That does not happen here.

Our team makeup does not have that intestinal fortitude. When players are not held accountable because a.) your coach is a figurehead, or b.) you can go over his head to the big BOSS, that is not a good thing. Heck, I haven't even mentioned who controls the draft.

Think about that in your work lives. What if you are a manager and your employees go over head, you have no power nor command any respect.

What we also witnessed yesterday is the end of the Wade Phillips regime. As I have stated before, I have viewed 2009 as a transition year. They will run more and put less pressure on Romo. In theory it sounds good, but Romo has not been great this year. I still think he can improve (better than the dark ages of 2000-2005) and am willing to give him through 2010. He needs a QB coach that can work with him and make him capable of realizing his full potential.

So they will win some games this year and lose others. They are not a playoff team. The Cowboys are more pretenders than anything else. 2010 will bring about some new coaches and players, but if nothing changes at the top, expect the same old same old.

I would love to be wrong about them but I don't think I am.

Stop living for the nineties. It was a long, long time ago.

Great points. Awesome Post.

But its real simple. JG sucks as a playcaller and would be worse as a headcoach. This team needs intensity like Singletary not a stupid look from fire crotch. Romo is average because Jerry made the offense more Romo friendly. You take the only WOW player that padded Romo's stats (felix is hurt too often) out of the offense and all of a sudden Romo sucks?

You get duds like Pat Crayton and Miles Austin manning WR and scaring no one.

 

[Bach]

Last year we had 44-6, so we cleaned house. Blah Blah. Nothing has changed.

Wade changed. He even said so himself.

Our team makeup does not have that intestinal fortitude. When players are not held accountable because a.) your coach is a figurehead, or b.) you can go over his head to the big BOSS, that is not a good thing. Heck, I haven't even mentioned who controls the draft.

That just about sums it up. It starts at the top.

What we also witnessed yesterday is the end of the Wade Phillips regime.

One would think so. Of course any rational person would've viewed the 44-6 loss to Philly last year as the end of Wade's regime. But Jerry thought we needed continuity. Well, he got it.

 

[notherbob]

That's not what I'm saying at all. People can lower thier expectations all they want. In fact that not something you can actually control.
Your expectations are high or thier not. And who could not expect less going forward after this past month.

What I am saying is that there truely is no escape. Sorry to hear it. If you're a fan you're feeling PAIN!

All you can do is hope for the best because only success will ease the PAIN.

Since I quit being emotional about the Cowboys several years ago I don't feel any concerns or pain at all...this team isn't my problem, it's Jerry's. If history is any indicator, Jerry isn't going to solve his problem because he seems incapable of recognizing that he is source of the problem. But, hey, it's his team and he can do anything he wants and has to answer to no one.

I don't see any significant changes coming down the road anytime soon and I simply accept the things I can't do anything about but I don't have to like it and I don't have to follow any given team like some lemming. I like football and I no longer care who plays good football, I love to watch the games regardless of who wins.

I enjoy watching the games anyway and in fact I enjoy them now more than ever since I quit caring whether this team wins or loses and have decided to enjoy the football game itself for its own merit. I don't get mad anymore and I don't feel pain anymore but I do enjoy the game of football a lot more regardless of who wins or why.

After being a rabid fan and living and dying with the Cowboys since 1961, I guess I'm just not a fan anymore, *sigh*.

Life is good.

 

[Doomsday101]

Dooms, this team is 12-12 in its last 24 games. At some point one has to accept that this team is what its record says that it is.

Where did I say the record is not what it is? Nothing changes what has taken place however things are not set in stone for the future. As I said if there are those who feel this team is toast and the season is done well that is their feeling but unless you can see into the future none of us know how things will playout. Dallas is 2-2 this season we lost 2 games that many felt we should have won but none the less loss. For me I still have faith in this team to turn things around and not lowing my expectation for this team, I can't control what anyone else feels nor am I trying only stating my own view points.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

the nfl landscape changes from week to week. Good thread.. I just can't stand these "definitive-- know all" type recaps after 4 weeks.