Aaron Rodgers is now 3-18 when trailing entering the fourth quarter

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I don't understand how one can have more game winning drives than 4th quarter comebacks...wouldn't a game winning drive also qualify as a 4th quarter comeback??
 

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I hope this means we'll see less of those painfully unfunny State Farm commercials.
 

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Cowboys&LakersFan;4380587 said:
Rodgers is still better.

This is probably the only place in the world where alcohol is not being served and this argument of Romo versus Rodgers is taking place.
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I'd still take tony over any Other qb in the league. WHEN he wins a super bowl. That's right I said when not if.....he should be considered a top 5 qb period. Cuz this post season showed brees and Aaron aren't all there cracked up to be when the pressure is on.
 

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bbgun;4380742 said:
I hope this means we'll see less of those painfully unfunny State Farm commercials.

Hey, bbgun, thanks for that discount double check!
 

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WV Cowboy;4380582 said:
They used to hold it against Aikman that he didn't have many comebacks. But like Rogers, he was not behind that often late in games, so he didn't have a ton of comebacks.

Aikman had as many game-winning drives in 1990 alone (his second year as a starter) as Rodgers has had in his entire career.
 

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rojan;4380729 said:
I don't understand how one can have more game winning drives than 4th quarter comebacks...wouldn't a game winning drive also qualify as a 4th quarter comeback??

You have to be behind in the fourth quarter to be credited with a fourth-quarter comeback.

If it's tied and you lead the winning drive, you get credit only for a game-winning drive.
 

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ScipioCowboy;4380591 said:
There was an article that addressed this point earlier in the year. Under Aaron Rodgers, the Packers are the ultimate front runners. They break out to a big lead, and then coast to victory. This is how the 90s Cowboys won. This is how good teams win.

Good teams also are able to come from behind if necessary.

As great as he is, Rodgers hasn't been able to do that very often WHEN he has been behind. His "comeback percentage" is extremely low.
 

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ufcrules1;4380596 said:
Maybe by a tiny tiny bit. So tiny the difference is negligible. Give Romo the Packers offensive line and I think Romo would be better than Rogers.


Both Rodgers and Romo were sacked the same number of times this year, so it's not like Rodgers's line was much better.

I take Rodgers primarily because he's more accurate (even with a higher ypa average), a better decision-maker, and he's less turnover proned. For three consecutive seasons, Rodgers has been a higher rated passer than Romo.

I like Romo, but it would be difficult for me to justify why he is better than Rodgers. If anyone can prove how Romo is arguably better than Rodgers, then I would like to see that argument.
 

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ufcrules1;4380596 said:
Maybe by a tiny tiny bit. So tiny the difference is negligible. Give Romo the Packers offensive line and I think Romo would be better than Rogers.

Folks, please reference 'disingenuous' in your Funk & Wagnalls...
 

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AdamJT13;4380770 said:
You have to be behind in the fourth quarter to be credited with a fourth-quarter comeback.

If it's tied and you lead the winning drive, you get credit only for a game-winning drive.

What if a team entered the 4th with the lead but than gave up the lead only to come back from behind and win??
 

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Suave;4380776 said:
Both Rodgers and Romo were sacked the same number of times this year, so it's not like Rodgers's line was much better.
Romo was also pressured more, with more pass blockers and fewer receivers on any given play.
 

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rojan;4380788 said:
What if a team entered the 4th with the lead but than gave up the lead only to come back from behind and win??

If you're behind at any point of the fourth quarter and then come back and win, you're credited with a fourth-quarter comeback.
 

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percyhoward;4380790 said:
Romo was also pressured more, with more pass blockers and fewer receivers on any given play.

Per Pro Football Focus.

The Pass Blocking Efficiency of Green Bay's offensive line was 82.3 - the Pass Blocking Efficiency of Dallas's offensive line was 81.5. Not a big difference.

Total Pressure Allowed (the combined number of sacks, hits, and hurries an offensive line allowed): Dallas - 144 Green Bay - 143. Not a big difference.

Hurries Allowed: Dallas -102 Green Bay - 102. Not a big difference.

The difference between both lines was not great, and Rodgers's offensive line was not much better.
 

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Suave;4380832 said:
Per Pro Football Focus.

The Pass Blocking Efficiency of Green Bay's offensive line was 82.3 - the Pass Blocking Efficiency of Dallas's offensive line was 81.5. Not a big difference.

Total Pressure Allowed (the combined number of sacks, hits, and hurries an offensive line allowed): Dallas - 144 Green Bay - 143. Not a big difference.

Hurries Allowed: Dallas -102 Green Bay - 102. Not a big difference.

The difference between both lines was not great, and Rodgers's offensive line was not much better.
Stats Inc has Romo with 56 pressures, compared to 48 for Rodgers, but either way that's not a huge difference. I would be interested in knowing what PFF says about how much help the OL is getting in pass protection, and how that affects the number of potential receivers (as opposed to blockers) each QB has on the average pass play. I suspect that, with 71 more attempts coming from 4+WR formations, Rodgers has more receivers and fewer blockers on a typical pass attempt.
 

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percyhoward;4380846 said:
Stats Inc has Romo with 56 pressures, compared to 48 for Rodgers, but either way that's not a huge difference. I would be interested in knowing what PFF says about how much help the OL is getting in pass protection, and how that affects the number of potential receivers (as opposed to blockers) each QB has on the average pass play. I suspect that, with 71 more attempts coming from 4+WR formations, Rodgers has more receivers and fewer blockers on a typical pass attempt.


At any rate, Rodgers is still the better QB. Good night.
 
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percyhoward;4380846 said:
Stats Inc has Romo with 56 pressures, compared to 48 for Rodgers, but either way that's not a huge difference. I would be interested in knowing what PFF says about how much help the OL is getting in pass protection, and how that affects the number of potential receivers (as opposed to blockers) each QB has on the average pass play. I suspect that, with 71 more attempts coming from 4+WR formations, Rodgers has more receivers and fewer blockers on a typical pass attempt.

That's a good point..
 

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CaptainMorgan;4380517 said:
I dont think anyone is saying that, but Rodgers certainly did fall back to earth.

are you kidding, they just spin it that they were drops, golden boy does not wrong
 

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I can't believe that our QB would even come up when discussing why the Cowboys didn't win the Super Bowl this year. I mean, that is really what this discussion is about. We had a "no lead is safe" defense, and that is where the conversation should start and end.
 

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CaptainMorgan;4380517 said:
I dont think anyone is saying that, but Rodgers certainly did fall back to earth.

No, his receivers did by dropping 7 passes.
 
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