Twitter: According to Broaddus, Tolbert might not be active Sunday

[Sydla]

My goodness, we are jumping the gun and calling the kid a draft failure for missing the FIRST game of the season. Now if he's still inactive after 6-7 games, yes I'm a bit concerned but the first game of the season.......c'mon. Even then I wouldn't call him a draft failure.

True but it's only going to get tougher to get active as we get closer to Gallup's return. After Lamb, on Sunday night, it's nothing but a gaggle of JAGs from Brown to Turpin to Fehoko to Houston. It's not a great thing if Tolbert can't crack that group to get active and with Gallup back in a few weeks, that's just less spots for him.

So sure, it's too soon to throw in the towel but it's also not the best sign that if he can't active on a team with a WR depth chart that is kind of blah at this point beyond Lamb.

FWIW, I still think he'll be active (and maybe S Williams too) tomorrow night.

 

[blueblood70]

a lot of guessing in here once again..how about this we wont on the official inactive lists and go from there.

 

[ESisback]

Loaded with a bunch of No. 3 borderline No. 2 WRs. You can find them anywhere.

Gallup is the only potential No. 2 WR on the team as of today

Could be. We’ll see. Lesser talent can be schemed to success. I’m not gonna stress over speculative failure. When Gallup comes back, Brown, Tolbert, Turpin, Washington and Houston can all battle for 3 and 4. I think we’ll be fine.

 

[Sydla]

that because Turpin is surprise of camp and with Pollard and Turpin getting more targets there no need to rush a 3rd round WR into the mix..Offsneively its Lamb, Pollard, zeke, Schultz and even Furguson flashed, then brown.

I mean there's only so many balls to go around and with the OL in question you think they will roll out 5 Wides, slow developing deep routes all the time..LMAO
NO

they will try and RUN, Use quick pass game which is a lot of slot motion from Turpin and Pollard, go to 2-3 TE sets and move the chains , etc etc

Not sure what you think the offense was going to be the first 3 weeks but i almost expected the young WRs would not get into the mix fast.

And here comes the shift in goal posts from some fans.

A few weeks ago when it was said after Washington got hurt that the Cowboys should explore a FA WR, you guys were talking about how the young guys were killing it in camp, we didn't need better WR play, Tolbert was a steal in the 3rd, etc. Now as we get close to the season suddenly it's, "well we dont need WRs, beause we are going to throw to Pollard and Schultz and Ferguson".

The Cowboys made an error IMO in not having a vet WR in here. They would look much better on O if they were running a guy like Will Fuller out there as the #2 with Lamb and Schultz and Pollard in the passing game.

 

[ESisback]

Yes if he is even on the bubble its a bad pick. How many other teams are not dressing a guy with a top 90 pick?

Probably several. We just don’t obsess over THEIR potential failure.

 

[Aven8]

Playing at S Alabama is a big task to come right in and be a player. Will take time or maybe he just isn’t any good. Time will tell.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Yes if he is even on the bubble its a bad pick. How many other teams are not dressing a guy with a top 90 pick?

C'mon King........are you serious.
For the record, let's look at another way......Dak's receiving targets in rankings (IMO)

• Lamb
• Schultz
• Brown
• Fehoko
• Turpin
• Ferguson?
• Houston?
• Tolbert

I think the first 5 are pretty accurate or close but let's assume they are. We typically only dress what 4-5 WRs. We haven't seen or heard anything to suggest he's outplayed Brown or Fehoko during camp and preseason. So even if he dresses, it would probably be special team and Turpin has that locked up. My point is I think he's just caught in the numbers for this game and maybe the next one too but I'm 100% convinced we are going to see plenty of this kid this year.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

And here comes the shift in goal posts from some fans.

A few weeks ago when it was said after Washington got hurt that the Cowboys should explore a FA WR, you guys were talking about how the young guys were killing it in camp, we didn't need better WR play, Tolbert was a steal in the 3rd, etc. Now as we get close to the season suddenly it's, "well we dont need WRs, beause we are going to throw to Pollard and Schultz and Ferguson".

The Cowboys made an error IMO in not having a vet WR in here. They would look much better on O if they were running a guy like Will Fuller out there as the #2 with Lamb and Schultz and Pollard in the passing game.

I don't know, the Rams didn't look so great with Allen Robinson being thrown out there as their #2...and that is exactly what we would get trotting out a guy like Will Fuller. Not much, if any, better than the young guys we have. The only guy that really made much sense is Beasley, and that sure as hell wasn't happening.

So many are down on the young receivers, but seriously, we didn't have a QB throwing to them that could showcase anything they do. Most of the practice reports indicate Dak had good connections with all of them including Tolbert, Houston, and Fehoko, as well as with Brown. Hard to judge the receivers at all based on preseason.

What will be interesting is when Gallup is activated and then Washington comes back, what will we do with all the receivers?You have to at least figure Washington will be in the top 4, so where do Brown, Fehoko, Houston, Tolbert and Turpin all fit? Will we keep 8 on the active roster? Who can we drop to PS and not have them snatched?

 

[Hawkeye0202]

True but it's only going to get tougher to get active as we get closer to Gallup's return. After Lamb, on Sunday night, it's nothing but a gaggle of JAGs from Brown to Turpin to Fehoko to Houston. It's not a great thing if Tolbert can't crack that group to get active and with Gallup back in a few weeks, that's just less spots for him.

So sure, it's too soon to throw in the towel but it's also not the best sign that if he can't active on a team with a WR depth chart that is kind of blah at this point beyond Lamb.

FWIW, I still think he'll be active (and maybe S Williams too) tomorrow night.

I'm guessing they're likely choosing Brown and Fehoko experience over him until Gallup returns. Once Gallup is starting again, he can take pressure off Tolbert that Brown can't.

 

[Sydla]

I don't know, the Rams didn't look so great with Allen Robinson being thrown out there as their #2...and that is exactly what we would get trotting out a guy like Will Fuller. Not much, if any, better than the young guys we have. The only guy that really made much sense is Beasley, and that sure as hell wasn't happening.

So many are down on the young receivers, but seriously, we didn't have a QB throwing to them that could showcase anything they do. Most of the practice reports indicate Dak had good connections with all of them including Tolbert, Houston, and Fehoko, as well as with Brown. Hard to judge the receivers at all based on preseason.

What will be interesting is when Gallup is activated and then Washington comes back, what will we do with all the receivers?You have to at least figure Washington will be in the top 4, so where do Brown, Fehoko, Houston, Tolbert and Turpin all fit? Will we keep 8 on the active roster? Who can we drop to PS and not have them snatched?

Not sure how Beasley would fit but a guy like Fuller (or Hilton) wouldn't? Beasley is a limited slot player at this point. We have enough guys to work the middle of the field and short areas - Schultz, Ferguson, Pollard, etc. Fuller would give you another legitimate outside WR who can deep and work the deeper parts of the field. To me, of all the potential FA WRs, Beasley was the most questionable fit.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

And here comes the shift in goal posts from some fans.

A few weeks ago when it was said after Washington got hurt that the Cowboys should explore a FA WR, you guys were talking about how the young guys were killing it in camp, we didn't need better WR play, Tolbert was a steal in the 3rd, etc. Now as we get close to the season suddenly it's, "well we dont need WRs, beause we are going to throw to Pollard and Schultz and Ferguson".

The Cowboys made an error IMO in not having a vet WR in here. They would look much better on O if they were running a guy like Will Fuller out there as the #2 with Lamb and Schultz and Pollard in the passing game.

Think you're placing way too much value in Fuller. If he was as good as you suggest ( to be our #2 WR ), no way in hell he would STILL be out there looking for work. That's 31 other teams that have overlooked this player with the talent to start as your #2 WR. I get your point about bringing in outside help at the position but they did with the Washington signing. I guess since he got hurt, you want them to double dip....

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Not sure how Beasley would fit but a guy like Fuller (or Hilton) wouldn't? Beasley is a limited slot player at this point. We have enough guys to work the middle of the field and short areas - Schultz, Ferguson, Pollard, etc. Fuller would give you another legitimate outside WR who can deep and work the deeper parts of the field. To me, of all the potential FA WRs, Beasley was the most questionable fit.

How would Fuller fit? We have plenty of guys already on the IR. In 6 seasons, he has only played 55 of a possible 96 games. IN the last 3 years, it is 24 of 48. Are you really gonna count on that guy? Hilton is pretty much the same boat. Old veteran who can't stay healthy. Played in only 35 of last 48 regular season games.

Beasley fit because he has history with Dak, he has been incredibly durable despite his size, and he has been incredibly productive the last 4 seasons.

 

[Jarntt]

My goodness, we are jumping the gun and calling the kid a draft failure for missing the FIRST game of the season. Now if he's still inactive after 6-7 games, yes I'm a bit concerned but the first game of the season.......c'mon. Even then I wouldn't call him a draft failure.

exactly. You draft someone looking at the next 5 plus years, not week 1 of their rookie season. But negative Nancys will always be saying the sky is falling.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

Think you're placing way too much value in Fuller. If he was as good as you suggest ( to be our #2 WR ), no way in hell he would STILL be out there looking for work. That's 31 other teams that have overlooked this player with the talent to start as your #2 WR. I get your point about bringing in outside help at the position but they did with the Washington signing. I guess since he got hurt, you want them to double dip....

Fuller has been remarkably injury prone through his entire career. I don't see how anyone would count on him.

 

[Carson]

It’s another draft pick Dallas overthought because of scheme. Hopefully they turn it around.

Hopefully this is not like Kelvin Joseph and Asante Samuel Jr. I would’ve preferred drafting David Bell. Tolbert has and shows potential. But this isn’t like the CeeDee Lamb luxury pick. We need contributing bodies at WR

 

[Hennessy_King]

Probably several. We just don’t obsess over THEIR potential failure.

Its just the front office being inept as usual. If we brought in a #2 in free agency i dont think anyone would care. Washington is not a proven #2 or even a #3. I mean actual talent at the position that would have cost stephen jones more than a bag of chips to sign

 

[Jarntt]

How would Fuller fit? We have plenty of guys already on the IR. In 6 seasons, he has only played 55 of a possible 96 games. IN the last 3 years, it is 24 of 48. Are you really gonna count on that guy? Hilton is pretty much the same boat. Old veteran who can't stay healthy. Played in only 35 of last 48 regular season games.

Beasley fit because he has history with Dak, he has been incredibly durable despite his size, and he has been incredibly productive the last 4 seasons.

Fuller would have been a good signing Because what we need most is a guy for the first few weeks while Gallup is out and/or working his way back into form and the younger guys are brought along slowly. We don’t need him for 17 games, but yes the injuries would be the big concern with him

Beasley would IMO be one of the worst choices to bring in with his attitude, especially around these kids. Dude just doesn’t Shut the $ up and it started before he left here. Had a comment about everything. I think the role he would provide will to some extent be filled by our TEs in the slot and operating over the middle of the field. Also, and I’m not one to say Pollard or Turpin can be a FT slot receiver, but they could get some snaps there also. Lastly, at least early on he “supposedly” was looking for money similar to his last deal which he is not anywhere near worth and he wasn’t even going to play if he stayed with Buffalo so I’m not sure how incredibly productive they felt he could be going forward. We need an outside receiver not a marginal guy who can do nothing but play the slot like Beasley. There is some value but IMO we are better off without him

 

[Whiskey Cowboy]

My goodness, we are jumping the gun and calling the kid a draft failure for missing the FIRST game of the season. Now if he's still inactive after 6-7 games, yes I'm a bit concerned but the first game of the season.......c'mon. Even then I wouldn't call him a draft failure.

I don't think anyone is calling the kid a failure. More along the lines of a front office failure for not securing the position. It was known that WR would be a weakness, especially early, and the only moves they made were drafting a small school project and signing an injury prone player that's already injured. Expecting Tolbert to be ready to step into that WR2 or WR3 role was incredibly foolish.

 

[Jarntt]

I don't think anyone is calling the kid a failure. More along the lines of a front office failure for not securing the position. It was known that WR would be a weakness, especially early, and the only moves they made were drafting a small school project and signing an injury prone player that's already injured. Expecting Tolbert to be ready to step into that WR2 or WR3 role was incredibly foolish.

This I agree with

 

[blueblood70]

No one is saying these guys are busts. We’re saying the homers who said the rookies could step in day 1 were thinking this is Madden. It takes time to develop any rookie especially those after the first round.

The front office relying on 3rd round picks to be day 1 starters was stupidity

NO IF NEEDED they sure could, we saw it in Buffalo thursday, however like i said above they are NOT needed at this point why should they expect top pay..the OL is more of concern,

so the real rookies wone be needed YET, thats because Turpin is surprise of camp and with Pollard and Turpin getting more targets there no need to rush a 3rd round WR into the mix..Offsneively its Lamb, Pollard, zeke, Schultz and even Furguson flashed, then brown.

I mean there's only so many balls to go around and with the OL in question you think they will roll out 5 Wides, slow developing deep routes all the time..LMAO
NO

they will try and RUN, Use quick pass game which is a lot of slot motion from Turpin and Pollard, go to 2-3 TE sets and move the chains , etc etc

Not sure what you think the offense was going to be the first 3 weeks but i almost expected the young WRs would not get into the mix fast.