Adrian Peterson Sweepstakes ***Officially reinstated (again) and merged***

[Stash]

Oh, so it's possible he gets cut and nobody picks him up? And he makes zero this year?

Of course not. But it's possible that he makes considerably less. In Minnesota, or elsewhere. If anyone thinks he's seeing the money he's still owed on his current deal, they are in for a rude awakening.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

And we'll wait as you find the phantom posts of those who have said Murray is better than Peterson.

I won't hold my breath though.

??? you just did. or at least you said they were equal.....

aye ya ya...

 

[JBS]

Of course not. But it's possible that he makes considerably less. In Minnesota, or elsewhere. If anyone thinks he's seeing the money he's still owed on his current deal, they are in for a rude awakening.

I agree w that...but that's not my point either

He's going to get close to 20M guaranteed...from somebody

Doesn't mean us...but he will

 

[JBS]

Of course not. But it's possible that he makes considerably less. In Minnesota, or elsewhere. If anyone thinks he's seeing the money he's still owed on his current deal, they are in for a rude awakening.

3 years - 25 million - 18 million guaranteed

No dice?

 

[JBS]

??? you just did. or at least you said they were equal.....

aye ya ya...

I've never seen anyone think so highly of Murray as that other guy...I'm convinced that guy is Murrays dad

 

[Stash]

I agree w that...but that's not my point either

He's going to get close to 20M guaranteed...from somebody

Doesn't mean us...but he will

If he can? More power to him! But I want no part of it.

We can easily manage 3 years at $12.5 guaranteed.

 

[Stash]

3 years - 25 million - 18 million guaranteed

No dice?

Nope.

 

[pansophy]

Trade a 3rd or 4th rounder for Peterson.

Cut Carr

Draft a CB like Johnson or Jones in Round 1

Draft a DL in Round 2

Win the Super Bowl in 2015.

See and that's what I don't get. RB is far easier to come in as a rookie and contribute than CB. Claiborne was picked 6th and is struggling to keep a starting job.

Carr is not worth the money he is getting but who do you really get to replace him. All you guys are saying you don't trust a rookie Arab, but you'll trust a rookie CB????

 

[mattjames2010]

I've never seen anyone think so highly of Murray as that other guy...I'm convinced that guy is Murrays dad

Go back and read the first thread as to when he signed with the Eagles and what I had to say about him. Read what I said about his behavior while in negotiations with us. Read what I said when he asked Romo to take a paycut for him. All negative.

What I don't do? I don't spew garbage, I do as much research as possible and don't go by the oh so reliable "eye test" and then post on here as though it's truth.

 

[mattjames2010]

See and that's what I don't get. RB is far easier to come in as a rookie and contribute than CB. Claiborne was picked 6th and is struggling to keep a starting job.

Carr is not worth the money he is getting but who do you really get to replace him. All you guys are saying you don't trust a rookie Arab, but you'll trust a rookie CB????

Not to mention, rookie CBs drafted high recently have either took a few years to develop and be effective or have been flat out busts.

 

[phildadon86]

See and that's what I don't get. RB is far easier to come in as a rookie and contribute than CB. Claiborne was picked 6th and is struggling to keep a starting job.

Carr is not worth the money he is getting but who do you really get to replace him. All you guys are saying you don't trust a rookie Arab, but you'll trust a rookie CB????

Rookie Arab? I don't think you meant to say that. Probably a typo

 

[phildadon86]

Not to mention, rookie CBs drafted high recently have either took a few years to develop and be effective or have been flat out busts.

Claiborne has been a stud what do you mean? Hahaha. Honestly the draft is a crap shoot regardless of position. I mean who knew Trent was going to be as abysmal as he has been thus far. Who knew Wilson would have been in 2 superbowls in his young career. No one

 

[pansophy]

Rookie Arab? I don't think you meant to say that. Probably a typo

Yeah sorry. Autocorrect got me. Should say RB.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

I've never seen anyone think so highly of Murray as that other guy...I'm convinced that guy is Murrays dad

I think Murray was a fine back. We hit in the draft with Murray. I also think Murray brings a lot of intangibles that are really good for a team and organization. I am glad Murray is doing well...

But speed is speed. And Murray in the open field compared to Peterson, is no brainer....

And he is trying to argue that they are equal in the open field. Im not sure what his point is in arguing this though? I guess its to say Peterson isnt all that.........?

 

[JoeBoBBY]

See and that's what I don't get. RB is far easier to come in as a rookie and contribute than CB. Claiborne was picked 6th and is struggling to keep a starting job.

Carr is not worth the money he is getting but who do you really get to replace him. All you guys are saying you don't trust a rookie Arab, but you'll trust a rookie CB????

I can hide a rookie CB at times. I can give him help.

Cant hide the guy with the rock in his hand.

 

[mattjames2010]

I think Murray was a fine back. We hit in the draft with Murray. I also think Murray brings a lot of intangibles that are really good for a team and organization. I am glad Murray is doing well...

But speed is speed. And Murray in the open field compared to Peterson, is no brainer....

And he is trying to argue that they are equal in the open field. Im not sure what his point is in arguing this though? I guess its to say Peterson isnt all that.........?

Look who I responded to initially with this discussion. People assume a great offensive line and a great back behind it have countless 20+ runs, that is not the case. The 15 20+ runs behind our number one run blocking line is great production and is the norm for great running backs. These expectations will make us disappointed in nearly EVERY RB we draft or bring in. The simple fact is, Murray had a great year and it wasn't all on the offensive line.

 

[jnday]

I know my opinion means nothing in the grand scheme of things, but none of the opinions expressed in this thread has any effect of the outcome of this situation. I don't want to see Dallas trade anything more than a mid-round pick for AP and I don't like the big hit to the salary cap that AP will cause. He is a 30 year old RB and signing him would be reversing the smart , youth movement that gives Dsllas such a bright, long-term future.

Rookie Arab? I don't think you meant to say that. Probably a typo

lol, my phone does the same thing on auto-correct

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Look who I responded to initially with this discussion. People assume a great offensive line and a great back behind it have countless 20+ runs, that is not the case. The 15 20+ runs behind our number one run blocking line is great production and is the norm for great running backs. These expectations will make us disappointed in nearly EVERY RB we draft or bring in. The simple fact is, Murray had a great year and it wasn't all on the offensive line.

Fair enough. Although its interesting, I dont put too much weight on those numbers. For all kinds of reasons.

I cant speak for everybody, but I saw with my own eyes, the gigantic holes that this offensive line had produced last year. In fact, I cant remember seeing so many huge holes like that in the NFL.......ever.

And I also saw Murray getting caught by the last guy around in the secondary. Peterson runs by that last guy. And takes the rock to the house more often then DM does. AP breaks the record if he was running the ball for the Cowboys last year. I know, I know.....a lot of guess work there....

I like evaluating the numbers, but I put more trust in analyzing what I see.

Its like the 2k total for the year number . I don't care if AP runs for that much. Its in December and January, in the playoff games , when the level of intensity goes up 10 notches. Its in those games that we need AP. Not Williams, DMC, or a rookie(although to be fair I haven't seen said rookie yet). But we need AP in those games, so when Cam Chancellor wants to jawbone and hit are running back into submission by the 2nd quarter.....I send him Adrian Peterson. Not Joseph Randle or some rookie. Thats when we need AP...........I could care less if he runs for 1500 yards during the season. Although that would be cool too......... I don't need to read some stat sheet to know that.

 

[Redball Express]

Despite DR reports, I don't see any team drafting Gurley in round 1 without seeing him workout or run prior to the draft. We all know players come back, but a first rounder for a player that you aren't certain is ready to start the season? Especially a RB? I don't see that happening.

I don't either.

Knees are tricky things and you never know what is going to happen.

I think he falls to 2nd rd. and we don't take him then.

I really don't think RB is that pressing an issue.

Everybody wants a Murray equivalent right now.

Crazy.

We have 4 RBs capable of running the rock.

Draft DL and Lber and CB if you ask me.

1,2,3 in any order.

 

[dallasdave]

If he can? More power to him! But I want no part of it.

We can easily manage 3 years at $12.5 guaranteed.

That's what I'm talking about.