Albert Breer on Jaylon Smith

Little Jr

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Well some don't let the foot drop in the first place.
Yes, mine doesn't. The ones that do are still somewhat restrictive. It gets you close to normal but it's not completely normal. I've said since we drafted him if the nerve doesn't fire and a afo is required for him to play he'll at best be 75% of the player we hoped and thought we were drafting.
 

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I say let the kid try and play. I really hope that the nerve continues to fire and gets better.
 
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Time will tell! Still a lot of specualtion at this point that the media seems to be running with! I hope the best, for obvious reasons, but I'm willing to be patient on this and not get carried away by some tweets!
 

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There you have it. Straight from one of the most respected reporters in he NFL. Heads need to roll over this. Either the doctor screwed up or he was pressured into a misdiagnosis.
It's clear the front office panicked when the two guys they wanted were picked in the two picks ahead of them.

It's like they're so happy after their 1st round successes that they forget the 2nd round is coming.
 

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There you have it. Straight from one of the most respected reporters in he NFL. Heads need to roll over this. Either the doctor screwed up or he was pressured into a misdiagnosis.

once again case where Jerry thought he was smarter than 31 other teams. I don't see Will McClay making that selection in 2nd round. Its further proof that Jerry doesn't even belong in war room during draft. Let him sit in his office and just make pleasant phone calls to players Will is drafting.
 

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if we trust what Jaylon is saying, then he is at least back to 4.5 and going to dominate.

if we want independent verification, we are not getting it.

you have been off on this subject matter the entire time.
 

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I think if the nerve is actually firing he will attain a full recovery. The biggest risk was that the nerve would never fire or innervate the muscle. Since the pathway has been established it should continue to get stronger.

You're half right. The biggest concern was that fully functional nerve would not innervate the muscle, not that the nerve wouldn't fire. The nerve has always had the ability to fire. It's just that the action potential generated by the CNS sent down into the periphery has a dead end in the condition of drop foot.
 

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Let the kid sit another season and see if he's 100% in 2018.

No need in risking permanent injury by bringing him in before he is completely healed.

:starspin:Go Cowboys!
 

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Let the kid sit another season and see if he's 100% in 2018.

No need in risking permanent injury by bringing him in before he is completely healed.

:starspin:Go Cowboys!
I say let him try but if he struggles in offseason workouts then I also agree that smith needs to sit another year and hope that the nerves in his leg will heal or grow enough to play again at a high level.
 

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It's clear the front office panicked when the two guys they wanted were picked in the two picks ahead of them.

It's like they're so happy after their 1st round successes that they forget the 2nd round is coming.

This take was better before we found out that his peroneal has been reinnervating. He is on track for a full recovering although it is not guaranteed and has had no setbacks. Your take is the exact same as when he was drafted.

I have no idea what threshold of motor function they want to see from him before saying he can play without a brace but he does have motor function.
 

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You're half right. The biggest concern was that fully functional nerve would not innervate the muscle, not that the nerve wouldn't fire. The nerve has always had the ability to fire. It's just that the action potential generated by the CNS sent down into the periphery has a dead end in the condition of drop foot.

firing is not a medical term and I have always taken it mean actuate the muscle. That has been a big part of the miscommunication with this issue: uncertainty as to the jargon being used.
 

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you have been off on this subject matter the entire time.

How do you figure that when he was saying that he believed Jaylon was able to lift his foot for some time now?

This is vindication for those of us that have been arguing it for months now.

Your post before the one quoted is your same intractable stance from last year. I don't expect you are capable of admitting it but the people bullish of Smith's chances of a full recovery are still right.

The nerve is firing and he can pick up his foot now. Deal with it.
 

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How do you figure that when he was saying that he believed Jaylon was able to lift his foot for some time now?

This is vindication for those of us that have been arguing it for months now.

Your post before the one quoted is your same intractable stance from last year. I don't expect you are capable of admitting it but the people bullish of Smith's chances of a full recovery are still right.

The nerve is firing and he can pick up his foot now. Deal with it.

my point from day one was that it was unlikely he would be NFL player with drop foot. Lesson here is let Will McClay run the draft. Start to finish.
 

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Article doesn't sound very encouraging, basically he is a shell of his former self if he has to wear the brace?

Time will tell, but hard to imagine him being very effective playing LB in the NFL while wearing an AFO.......practically unheard of.
 

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I'm not hopeful, but the article wasn't exactly definitive proof he won't play

Either way, I'm not counting on him for 2017. Strongly consider drafting a lb again this year
 

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my point from day one was that it was unlikely he would be NFL player with drop foot.

He is past the last biomechanical hurdle in that the muscle is now innervated. We don't know for how long it's been or how much more he will end up with but it is what it is.

At this point it's a question of how much strength he has back and the existential question of at what point does he have enough strength in the peroneal that it is no longer drop foot.

He can pick his foot up at an interval of once a second jumping over hurdles as of a few weeks ago. The season starts in late August, 4.5 months from now.
 

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I still think it was a terrible draft pick. It's all speculation if he's going to play and how effective he will be if he does play.
 
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