all for those who want Turner as HC

[jgboys1]

I DO NOT want Turner here, I think it is a big mistake bringing him in, but if JJ hires him I will root for him and hope he has a great career as the Dallas Cowboys head coach, but I doubt it.I hope I am wrong about Turner.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

There it is...blame bill and embrace norv.

I will never understand it.

it's amazing, I can't find one, single positive, just excuses and alot of conjecture and coach comparisons

 

[JPM]

norv is just as qualified asanybody thats available. maybe u guys should thorw more of your hate to the guy who put dallas in this spot. bill parcells.

Why is it Bill's fault ? Did you really want Cameron or Wisenhunt ?

 

[LatinMind]

you guys are straying from the topic, what has Norv done, that makes you confidant? I dont' want to hear some baseless conjecture, or comparisons to coaches, Norv could be the next Belichick, or the next Dave Campo for all we know

so again, what has Norv ever done as a HC?

without an baised opinion. atleast try. can u say that norv has actually had a legit shot with the previous teams he's coached to form anything? ask yourself that.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I DO NOT want Turner here, I think it is a big mistake bringing him in, but if JJ hires him I will root for him and hope he has a great career as the Dallas Cowboys head coach, but I doubt it.I hope I am wrong about Turner.

Well I think many of us feel the same way.

I just figured I would get all of my whining or complaining out now.

However I am sure there will be plenty that keep it up no matter what happens.

I just still find it odd that the ones that blamed and ragged on bill the most, are the ones that are defending Norv here now. Talk about a drop off in logic.

 

[LatinMind]

Why is it Bill's fault ? Did you really want Cameron or Wisenhunt ?

i wanted cameron

 

[Bob Sacamano]

without an baised opinion. atleast try. can u say that norv has actually had a legit shot with the previous teams he's coached to form anything? ask yourself that.

has he been in some rough spots? yes

has he done anything about it? not much, so if he can't make a bad team significantly better, how is he going to do that w/ us?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

i wanted cameron

I would rather of had LT and Gates.

 

[LatinMind]

has he been in some rough spots? yes

has he done anything about it? not much, so if he can't make a bad team signifcantly better, how is he going to do that w/ us?

did he have any kind of situation that u think he could have called his own shots? to make them "better". or were things pushed on him by his previous employers?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Well I think many of us feel the same way.

I just figured I would get all of my whining or complaining out now.

However I am sure there will be plenty that keep it up no matter what happens.

I just still find it odd that the ones that blamed and ragged on bill the most, are the ones that are defending Norv here now. Talk about a drop off in logic.

they gripe and complain about .500, yet back a coach who wishes he were near a .500 coach

 

[LatinMind]

I would rather of had LT and Gates.

lol u and me both. but cameron is going to do some great things. mark them words

 

[superpunk]

without an baised opinion. atleast try. can u say that norv has actually had a legit shot with the previous teams he's coached to form anything? ask yourself that.

He was the HEAD coach, was he not?

He made some terrible decisions on TOP draft picks in Washington, did he not?

His teams were talented, and underachieved every year.

Do you people just block out how much fun it was to face the Skins every year under Norv?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

did he have any kind of situation that u think he could have called his own shots? to make them "better". or were things pushed on him by his previous employers?

uh, in Washington he had alot of say in personnel decisions

 

[LatinMind]

uh, in Washington he had alot of say in personnel decisions

prove it

 

[LatinMind]

He was the HEAD coach, was he not?

He made some terrible decisions on TOP draft picks in Washington, did he not?

His teams were talented, and underachieved every year.

Do you people just block out how much fun it was to face the Skins every year under Norv?

when dallas plays washington or any of team. i think about the game. not whos walking the sidelines. thats just me tho. i like the football game aspect.

 

[superpunk]

Why is it Bill's fault ?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

prove it

a Commander fans just posted in one of the threads about it

even better, go to ES.com and start a post about it

 

[superpunk]

when dallas plays washington or any of team. i think about the game. not whos walking the sidelines. thats just me tho. i like the football game aspect.

What does that even mean? When we played the Commanders this year, were you not aware that Gibbs was on the sideline? When we were dominating Spurrier, were you not aware of him? Norv is a bad coach. That is noticable, no matter what you're focusing on.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Just a clarification here and then I'll go back to watching you guys abuse each other.

Michael Westbrook and Heath Shuler weren't picked for Turner and forced on him, they were his coveted picks that he was the driving force behind. He was so excited about Shuler in fact (Shuler was taken over Casserly's choice Dilfer at Norv's urging) that he told the press that he'd stake his career and reputation on it.

Furthermore it's a complete myth that he had talent voided teams in Washington. The ONE year he did anything in 1999 he had a record setting scoring offense who broke the league record(only to see the Rams break it further) his teams still choked in amazingly embarassing fashion. Game after game after game they snatched defeat from the jaws of Victory.

So save yourselves some grief and don't buy into the notion that Turner was hamstrung with talent in DC. Nothing could be furhter from the truth. If this was true he'd get cut a LOT more slack than he is. the reason his tenure was so maddening for Skins fans is BECAUSE his teams were so talented and underachieving

here you go LT

btw, if Turner was just a yuppie head coach, how is that inspiring?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

so, positives for Turner:

1.) he had no say in Wash. and Oaktown

...uh....uh, there was that one time in '93