All this handwringing and Jerry bashing is nonsense

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Dave_in-NC;1339647 said:
Which scares me even more if he names Garrett HC. Right now as I look at it I see Garrett as OC and a defensive minded HC on the way. I still don't like any of the names being mentioned. But I guess we have to have one so we will take any one.

Don't lie.

You heart Todd Bowles. As do I. :yourock:
 

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blindzebra;1339275 said:
Dallas' situation isn't a full blown rebuilding project like most head coaching hires enter.

This is a team with talent on both sides of the ball, that is young, and just needs that spark to take that next step...

That's right....which is why we don't need to turn the team over to some inexperienced and/or mediocre HC with a failed track record with Jerry becoming more hands-on.
 

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VA Cowboy;1339653 said:
That's right....which is why we don't need to turn the team over to some inexperienced and/or mediocre HC with a failed track record with Jerry becoming more hands-on.

Exactly. Nothing can turn up and coming, into never getting there and back to mediocre.
 

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blindzebra;1339275 said:
And here's why:

Dallas' situation isn't a full blown rebuilding project like most head coaching hires enter.

This is a team with talent on both sides of the ball, that is young, and just needs that spark to take that next step...with all our warts we were better than Seattle, who gave the Bears all they could handle, who beat the Saints, so one could argue we were a botched hold away from a SB right now.

With Jerry always willing to write checks, a hungry Romo and defense with something to prove, I can't think of a better situation to walk into...regardless of having Garrett in the wings.

Didn't the Cowboys get killed by the Saints? But we beat that team who beat that team that beat that other team. I don't get your argument that the Cowboys could be in the Super Bowl. I could make that argument for any team in the NFL. They went 9-8. Give me a break.
 

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bbgun;1339524 said:
:lmao:

Yes, most of his posts are frequently draped in condescending tones. Annoying, isn't it?

Like I observed yesterday, the sheep will go out of their way to rationalize any of Jerry's candidates as a good hire, no matter how much of a reach or how undeserving. Garrett, Phillips, Turner, Ryan. It doesn't matter. They'll immediately spin it as a wise, clever, sane hire, and anyone who dissents will be thrown under the bus or smeared as a "hater." It's the only game they know. What Jerry did to earn such loyalty is a mystery, and we're the poorer for it.

so bbgun, ruling out all of the coaches linked to us, who do you think is the best candidate to be our coach?
 

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summerisfunner;1339794 said:
so bbgun, ruling out all of the coaches linked to us, who do you think is the best candidate to be our coach?

He will not answer ...... if he did he would not have a reason to cry if we hired the guy .....

He will prolly name a coach who already has a job to be safe ....:rolleyes:
 

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zrinkill;1339808 said:
He will not answer ...... if he did he would not have a reason to cry if we hired the guy .....

He will prolly name a coach who already has a job to be safe ....:rolleyes:

I know, I just wanted to put it out there that bbgun is a tool/Commander fan:D
 

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zrinkill;1339808 said:
He will not answer ...... if he did he would not have a reason to cry if we hired the guy .....

He will prolly name a coach who already has a job to be safe ....:rolleyes:

Parcells waited to long to retire. I really wanted Wisenwhateverhisnameis but he went to AZ or the other guy in Miami....;)
 

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JPM;1339823 said:
Parcells waited to long to retire. I really wanted Wisenwhateverhisnameis but he went to AZ or the other guy in Miami....;)

Yup ..... the troll cried about Parcells being an over the hill retread jerry was stupid for hiring him ....

Now he cries about garrett being a young inexperienced question mark .... and Jerry is stupid for hiring him ....
 

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zrinkill;1339849 said:
Yup ..... the troll cried about Parcells being an over the hill retread jerry was stupid for hiring him ....

Now he cries about garrett being a young inexperienced question mark .... and Jerry is stupid for hiring him ....

Well, if what he wants is a young up and coming guy who at least has several years as a coordinator under his belt in a successful franchise under a top coach, then he has every right to say that Jerry is making a mistake hiring Garrett as a HC.

Because Garrett doesn't come close to those qualifications.
 

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wileedog;1339857 said:
Well, if what he wants is a young up and coming guy who at least has several years as a coordinator under his belt in a successful franchise under a top coach, then he has every right to say that Jerry is making a mistake hiring Garrett as a HC.

Because Garrett doesn't come close to those qualifications.

c'mon, me and you both know how incorrigible bbgun can be, he just wants an excuse to whine, just like all the others
 

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summerisfunner;1339860 said:
c'mon, me and you both know how incorridgeable bbgun can be, he just wants an excuse to whine, just like all the others

I know.

I just happen to agree with him in this case.

Its easy to dismiss valid arguments as just being a troll or a whine, much harder to refute the actual arguments.
 

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wileedog;1339863 said:
I know.

I just happen to agree with him in this case.

Its easy to dismiss valid arguments as just being a troll or a whine, much harder to refute the actual arguments.

I would give his argument some credence except for the fact that he's ruled out any of the coaches linked to us as being a good hire, just the same, old bbgun, trolling the board
 

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summerisfunner;1339868 said:
I would give his argument some credence except for the fact that he's ruled out any of the coaches linked to us as being a good hire, just the same, old bbgun, trolling the board

Norval and Wade are not good hires. Gibbs is not a good hire.

Garrett for HC is not a good hire. I'd be willing to take the gamble at OC, and that might turn out well, but hiring him first hinders the HC we do hire. It undermines their authority and tells the players then can go over his head to Jerry.

I want Rivera, but this job just became a whole less attractive to him with Jerry's handpicked guy waiting in the wings should he stumble. Lovie would be nice, but I don't see how the Bears can let him walk away.

I don't see any other name linked to us that is particularly appealing at this point.

Again, troll or not, bb has a point IMO.
 

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wileedog;1339857 said:
Well, if what he wants is a young up and coming guy who at least has several years as a coordinator under his belt in a successful franchise under a top coach, then he has every right to say that Jerry is making a mistake hiring Garrett as a HC.

Because Garrett doesn't come close to those qualifications.

And he has not hired him as Head coach .....

How much you wanna bet that if jerry Jones hires Ron Rivera ...... BBgun will be complaining and bashing the boys as usual ....
 

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wileedog;1339877 said:
I want Rivera, but this job just became a whole less attractive to him with Jerry's handpicked guy waiting in the wings should he stumble. Lovie would be nice, but I don't see how the Bears can let him walk away.

I don't know how getting help for the O would make this job less attractive, afterall, Rivera has no experience working w/ an O, I think getting a credible O staff in place would make the already appealing job, according to Rivera, even more appealing, and if Rivera is made of the right stuff, then he should feel that he could do a great job and make Jerry think twice about replacing him
 

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zrinkill;1339881 said:
And he has not hired him as Head coach .....
Yet.

How much you wanna bet that if jerry Jones hires Ron Rivera ...... BBgun will be complaining and bashing the boys as usual ....

I don't care what BB's posting habits are, I care that he is making a valid argument that if the plan is to put Garrett at HC that is a bad idea. If the plan is to hire Garrett at OC before naming a HC, then bring in a retread like Wade or Norv when everyone on the planet (and especially the players) know they are just keeping the seat warm for Garrett, that's not a particularly good idea either.

I hope its Rivera, because that would make it all more palatable, and at least send a signal to the players that these two young guys are at least in competition for the Top Spot down the road.

But the fact is Jerry's DOES have a spotty track record here (call me a hater all you want) and doesn't inspire much confidence that he will do the right thing.

We'll see.
 

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wileedog;1339894 said:
But the fact is Jerry's DOES have a spotty track record here (call me a hater all you want) and doesn't inspire much confidence that he will do the right thing.

We'll see.

BP is helping Jerry w/ this process
 
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