All time Cowboys QB Stats

RS12 said:
When Rodgers goes HOF (and he is a lock) GB will have four HOF QBs. Arnie Herber who was the QB during the Don Hutson era has been in the HOF since 1966 which I believe was the second class ever.
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Your right. My comment was addressing 'since Cowboys inception'.
 
RS12 said:
Every time this moronic argument and thread comes up I have to point out a few inconvenient facts. 1) Staubach didnt really even start his career until age 29. 2) He really only played a total of 8 years. He lost all but one game of the 1972 season due to a should injury. 3) During those 8 years he won two SBs, 4 NFCCGs and 13 total playoff games. 4) It was open season on QBs and WRs all but one year of his career. When you consider all that, his accomplishments are mind bogging and the concussions he took shortened his career. Now that I have brought up these inconvenient FACTS please stop with the idiotic, feel good, basketball on grass stats. You are embarrassing yourselves.
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Why so angry all the time?
 
perrykemp said:
Packers are on par probably…. Starr, Favre, Rodgers. 7 championships (5 of them Superbowls).
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When did the packers win their 5th Super Bowl. Oh I know, they didn't. And anything that happened in leather facemaskless helmets by part time meat packing guys in a 8 team league doesn't count for squat - especially those championships that happened without having to win a championship game.
 
RS12 said:
When Rodgers goes HOF (and he is a lock) GB will have four HOF QBs. Arnie Herber who was the QB during the Don Hutson era has been in the HOF since 1966 which I believe was the second class ever.
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We were talking about since the Boys came into the league in 1960 so Hutson is out.
and since 1960 Show me how the Pack has had superior QB for as long and as consistently as the boys have.
Starr then who for how long? Unitl Favre then Rodgers. A pretty LONG gap there. Now Favre then Rodgers is a great bit of luck; Steve Young following Joe Montana is the last time I can remember one HOF player taking right over from another. BUT once again when Starr retired it was a LONG time until Favre.
 
gtb1943 said:
Roger's best statistical year came during his last season with the changing of the rules (not just because of the two extra games)
IF he had started five years later in his career and played those years after 1978 he would have put up serious numbers.
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You're going in the wrong direction.

Had Staubach not served the four years of military service he would have won more than two SBs. He would probably be in the conversation for all time great.

But then Meredith would not have had his career.
 
RS12 said:
Every time this moronic argument and thread comes up I have to point out a few inconvenient facts. 1) Staubach didnt really even start his career until age 29.
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People tend to forget that he spent 4 years in the Navy after graduating from Annapolis.

Just getting admitted to a military academy is no easy task.
 
CT Dal Fan said:
Pass protection is the issue here, not run blocking. Tony Pollard has excelled the past two years behind the same line Zeke struggled with.

This is not Zeke hate, it's a recognition that the heavy workload has caught up to him. I appreciate Zeke as much as any Cowboys fan but there just is not much tread left on his tires. And 31 other teams see that as well because he's now been available for over three weeks and nobody has even bothered to visit with him yet.
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That isn't true though. For two years we heard how Tony showcased his speed to the outside like Zeke couldn't. Why is that? Because tony HAD to go to the outside.Tony had as little succuss up the middle as Zeke. He was able to deflect the play better no doubt. But you can't do that all the time. You HAVE to run the middle...

Add to that Tony generally ran different plays to begin with. "get him in space" they said. Where he does indeed excel.

Still have to be able to grind it up the middle. And we have been pretty poor with that.

I once asked "when did you last see an offensive lineman up the field looking for someone to pancake?" As if it never happened.

Well of course it does...on occasion. Just not enough. Tony shouldn;t have to showcase his speed to the outside, instead....chew real reals UP the field.
 
Rockport said:
Pollard was quick enough to run away from the terrible run blocking.
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That's what I'm sayin! He displayed his quickness to the outside on many occasions....when he should be displaying his burst through a big hole up the middle. It just rarely happened.
 
SteveTheCowboy said:
That isn't true though. For two years we heard how Tony showcased his speed to the outside like Zeke couldn't. Why is that? Because tony HAD to go to the outside.Tony had as little succuss up the middle as Zeke. He was able to deflect the play better no doubt. But you can't do that all the time. You HAVE to run the middle...

Add to that Tony generally ran different plays to begin with. "get him in space" they said. Where he does indeed excel.

Still have to be able to grind it up the middle. And we have been pretty poor with that.

I once asked "when did you last see an offensive lineman up the field looking for someone to pancake?" As if it never happened.

Well of course it does...on occasion. Just not enough. Tony shouldn;t have to showcase his speed to the outside, instead....chew real reals UP the field.
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you are certainly gonna die on the zeke hill.

Dallas was 9th in the league in rushing and tony literally beat zeke in every stat there is except TDs. That includes broken tackles,YAC and i couldnt find the stat but someone had posted yards between tackles as well. The run blocking was good.it wasnt exceptional but it was good the pass blocking was horrid.

You can make an argument that KM didnt use Zekes to his strenghts but at this point his only strengths are goal line rushing yards. tony even closed the gap with blocking ability. That said I have reservations on how well hell hold up as an every down back. But theres no question that tony is a better back than zeke at this point and its not even close. Whether or not hes washed is another story.

He may still succeed with a better QB like if he went to KC theres no doubt he'd do better. But 2016 zeke or for that matter 2018 zeke.Is done. But he needs top of the line QB and top of the line OL and we have neither of those here.
 
SteveTheCowboy said:
That's what I'm sayin! He displayed his quickness to the outside on many occasions....when he should be displaying his burst through a big hole up the middle. It just rarely happened.
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thats otherwise known as vision another metric tony is better at
 
starfan1 said:
you are certainly gonna die on the zeke hill.

Dallas was 9th in the league in rushing and tony literally beat zeke in every stat there is except TDs. That includes broken tackles,YAC and i couldnt find the stat but someone had posted yards between tackles as well. The run blocking was good.it wasnt exceptional but it was good the pass blocking was horrid.

You can make an argument that KM didnt use Zekes to his strenghts but at this point his only strengths are goal line rushing yards. tony even closed the gap with blocking ability. That said I have reservations on how well hell hold up as an every down back. But theres no question that tony is a better back than zeke at this point and its not even close. Whether or not hes washed is another story.

He may still succeed with a better QB like if he went to KC theres no doubt he'd do better. But 2016 zeke or for that matter 2018 zeke.Is done. But he needs top of the line QB and top of the line OL and we have neither of those here.
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LOL....I used zeke in the most general way...but you are gonna hammer me about it.

Okay...you think our interior run blocking was superb. Great. I don't. Great.

It's not really about zeke but you sure are pushing it hard.
 
SteveTheCowboy said:
LOL....I used zeke in the most general way...but you are gonna hammer me about it.

Okay...you think our interior run blocking was superb. Great. I don't. Great.

It's not really about zeke but you sure are pushing it hard.
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Im pushing it hard? LOL I was just responding to your statements. let me ask you a question of your 13500 posts what % of them do you believe are in defense of your 2 favoite cowboys all time? TR and Zeke. Id go out on a limb and say 70% Im really not pushing anything hard you just get defensive the moment either of them are brought up in a manner that isnt positive. The entire board knows this. which is ok I fight for players i like too. Its human nature

I dont believe our interior run blocking was near the problem as our pass protection. It wasnt as good as Phillys or KC I would say but we had 2 runners around the 100 yard mark it wasnt horrible. I fear our pass blocking will be an issue again this year if we dont get another guard early.
 
CowboyRoy said:
Dak had a great oline for about two years and that is it. Once frederick went down and Tyron started missing games every year the Oline has been mediocre. And then of course he has had the horrid Zeke the last 4 years being featured.

Aikmans lines were much much better. Only line that compares to Aikmans was Daks rookie year in 2016.
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MM said the since he has been here, they have not had the starters for 2 games in a row the entire time. I guess he meant the projected starters of game 1.
And that with 17 games games, you now need to prepare for that.
So I guess that means they will be going for some OL in the draft. I hope.

And that does not bode well for any QB. We seen how it effected Mahomes in the SB against TB.
Oh and that also effected Zeke as well as it did Dak. You can't say it effected one and not the other. It effected Pollard as well as the passing game.
 
Romo will be in the HOF and thus he'll be remembered as a broadcaster more than a starting QB.
 
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