Amendola: All Hype, No Substance.

[RainMan]

Please. The anti-Amendola crowd has been louder than anything. I really couldn't care less if the kid makes the team or not, but the constant hounding about hype and how he was no Wes Welker got ridiculous, and I started pushing back. Maybe that was just me, but the negativity towards this guy is unreal, and it got on my nerves.

Well, step back and look at all the Holy-Cow-look-at-Amendola threads there have been since the start of camp. Wasn't there even a long thread predicting how many TDs he would score last night?

Welker's name has been attached to him on a regular basis, and it creates a little backlash when he fails to live up to the hype in his first showing. The worm will turn if he goes for 80 receiving yards next week. Then the tone of the board will be back to making this guy our third receiver and a future star.

Amendola's no different from anyone else. Wait until Felix fumbles for the first time, Pacman gets his first pass defense, etc. Things will flow back and forth with the wind.

 

[iceberg]

Please. The anti-Amendola crowd has been louder than anything. I really couldn't care less if the kid makes the team or not, but the constant hounding about hype and how he was no Wes Welker got ridiculous, and I started pushing back. Maybe that was just me, but the negativity towards this guy is unreal, and it got on my nerves.

so where did it come from? people get bored and suddenly a lot of "i'll pick on this guy" dart boards came up amendola? usually the negative comes from overexposure to the positive, or the "hope".

maybe you've seen more of the anti-danny crowd. i've seen more of the "who's spot is he taking???" crowd and the anti-danny crowd followed. maybe you saw it different. i'm just saying how i saw it.

if i missed a few dozen posts, oops.

 

[theogt]

Well, step back and look at all the Holy-Cow-look-at-Amendola threads there have been since the start of camp. Wasn't there even a long thread predicting how many TDs he would score last night?

The thread was tongue-in-cheek. As far as I can tell, the media has written a good bit about him being impressive, because, well, he's been impressive.

Welker's name has been attached to him on a regular basis, and it creates a little backlash when he fails to live up to the hype in his first showing. The worm will turn if he goes for 80 receiving yards next week. Then the tone of the board will be back to making this guy our third receiver and a future star.

Bull****. It's not him failing to live up to any hype. There was an immediate negative reaction back in rookie mini-camps. It wasn't his failure that made people negative about him. It was his existence on the team. Very strange.

 

[iceberg]

The thread was tongue-in-cheek. As far as I can tell, the media has written a good bit about him being impressive, because, well, he's been impressive.

Bull****. It's not him failing to live up to any hype. There was an immediate negative reaction back in rookie mini-camps. It wasn't his failure that made people negative about him. It was his existence on the team. Very strange.

like most things in life it will be awhile before we know one way or the other if he'll ever live up to the hype. making the call "now" is usually self-serving for our own benefit.

 

[RainMan]

The thread was tongue-in-cheek. As far as I can tell, the media has written a good about bit about him being impressive, because, well, he's been impressive.

Bull****. It's not him failing to live up to any hype. There was an immediate negative reaction back in rookie mini-camps. It wasn't his failure that made people negative about him.

There's always going to be overreaction. See: Felix Jones. He could rush for 300 yards on 4 carries and there will be *some* saying they're not impressed. Just the way it goes. But I haven't sensed a sincere disliking toward Amendola during camp. There are those who are unimpressed -- and will always be unimpressed -- but as I said in the previous post that goes for all players.

 

[theogt]

There's always going to be overreaction. See: Felix Jones. He could rush for 300 yards on 4 carries and there will be *some* saying they're not impressed. Just the way it goes. But I haven't sensed a sincere disliking toward Amendola during camp. There are those who are unimpressed -- and will always be unimpressed -- but as I said in the previous post that goes for all players.

Not even close. As far as I can tell there's only one person who wasn't impressed with Felix Jones and that guys an idiot (4life?).

 

[tomson75]

Please. The anti-Amendola crowd has been louder than anything. I really couldn't care less if the kid makes the team or not, but the constant hounding about hype and how he was no Wes Welker got ridiculous, and I started pushing back. Maybe that was just me, but the negativity towards this guy is unreal, and it got on my nerves.

I agree. There were a few threads that intended to absolutely pimp this guy, but the constant barrage of hate towards Danny has far exceeded his glorification. He's met resistance from fans right from the start.

Typical Amendola thread:

Fan: "I really like Amendola. I think he's got a real shot at making the roster."

Hater: "OMGLLOoloohoohdsooh!!!!111!! Thanks god we got this guy without using a pick on him. He's a future HOF'r!!!!! Chamionship!!!!! Best receiver everz!!!! llloooolllooooolloooerzzz!!!!

Pffft. You're dumb. Amendola is no Welker. He was undrafted, and for a reason. I don't see why you're expecting sooo much from an UDFA. He's got no chance. I'm so sick of you guys hyping this kid up. He's slow. He's short. He's white. He sucks."

Fan: What? All I said was that I thought he could make the team. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

 

[theogt]

like most things in life it will be awhile before we know one way or the other if he'll ever live up to the hype. making the call "now" is usually self-serving for our own benefit.

I agree. But nobody is saying this guy is going to take anyone's spot. Nobody is saying he's going to the pro bowl. There's no "hype" in that sense. There is, however, a whole host of people saying he sucks and will never make it on the roster.

 

[iceberg]

I agree. But nobody is saying this guy is going to take anyone's spot. Nobody is saying he's going to the pro bowl. There's no "hype" in that sense. There is, however, a whole hoard of people saying he sucks and will never make it on the roster.

i'm not going to go back and look but my impression would be from people like dcfanatic who seemed to be a danny-backer regardless and always willing to stick up for him.

maybe that's a result from the downside. but people don't normally go anti-rudy until they're sick of him. not paying enough attention to this particular situation, just saying generally. if i'm wrong about dcfanatic then apologies also. the brief "discussion" i had with him was pretty interesting and very "danny will make the team!!!" based off ...

hype.

i'll just wait and see what happens.

 

[theogt]

i'm not going to go back and look but my impression would be from people like dcfanatic who seemed to be a danny-backer regardless and always willing to stick up for him.

maybe that's a result from the downside. but people don't normally go anti-rudy until they're sick of him. not paying enough attention to this particular situation, just saying generally. if i'm wrong about dcfanatic then apologies also. the brief "discussion" i had with him was pretty interesting and very "danny will make the team!!!" based off ...

hype.

i'll just wait and see what happens.

Up until yesterday, why was there any reason to "back him"? Had he done something wrong up that point that warranted anyone attacking him?

 

[Dawgs0916]

the hype he gets on the board made me think he was God's gift to WR's....

Did Amendola sleep with your girlfriend? WTH is your problem? Does it make you feel good to bash the guy working his tail off to play for the team you root for?

And I think I should start adding "" at the end of every senseless comment I make. Maybe it will give me the delusion it adds substance to what I just wrote, as it is clearly making you think...

 

[CF74]

The kid made some rookie mistakes, big deal it's Preseason. I'm not ready to write him off just yet, and how do you expect the ball to get above his shins with Brad and Bartel L-A-U-N-C-H-I-N-G the ball around?

 

[iceberg]

Up until yesterday, why was there any reason to "back him"? Had he done something wrong up that point that warranted anyone attacking him?

in essense they're not attacking danny, they're tired of the WE LOVE THIS GUY! and just take another role. normally this isn't directed at the actual person but the hype and the "cheerleaders" around that person.

i'd love to see danny play well and make the team.

i'd love for his personal PR section to give it a rest.

and no, there's still no reason not to back him. he had a rough start. it happens. it's only a killer move if you've got an...dare i say it...agenda.

 

[theogt]

in essense they're not attacking danny, they're tired of the WE LOVE THIS GUY! and just take another role. normally this isn't directed at the actual person but the hype and the "cheerleaders" around that person.

i'd love to see danny play well and make the team.

i'd love for his personal PR section to give it a rest.

and no, there's still no reason not to back him. he had a rough start. it happens. it's only a killer move if you've got an...dare i say it...agenda.

People only started liking him after the constant reports of him being impressive started rolling out. If that causes some sort of backlash, there's certainly a problem, but it's not with the supporters.

It's not like there's no reason to like the guy. He was productive in college. He's extremely quick. And he's been impressive in camp so far. It's just stunning that anyone would be upset by that.

 

[iceberg]

The kid made some rookie mistakes, big deal it's Preseason. I'm not ready to write him off just yet, and how do you expect the ball to get above his shins with Brad and Bartel L-A-U-N-C-H-I-N-G the ball around?

brad couldn't launch a bottle rocket with a blowtorch. we'd be better off getting someone to stand back there with a football throwing machine and having them trying to aim it around than johnson.

as for bartel, first game jitters had to be in overdrive, but his throws were usually high. while if romo goes down neither of these will carry us much of anywhere except a high draft pick, i don't really see anyone there who would be a romo or they'd be starting for another team. i do wish for a backup qb upgrade though.

 

[iceberg]

People only started liking him after the constant reports of him being impressive started rolling out. If that causes some sort of backlash, there's certainly a problem, but it's not with the supporters.

It's not like there's no reason to like the guy. He was productive in college. He's extremely quick. And he's been impressive in camp so far. It's just stunning that anyone would be upset by that.

people started liking him cause of welkers success and that "instant tie" was there. the comparisons were there. the supporters can get annoying as the detractors and when someone in overdrive on support won't stop the shoving of their player down people's throats, you're gonna get a negative reaction.

theogt, i'm talking basic human nature here, not for or against one player. you can tie it to amendola all you want and say it's not fair but it's never gonna be. not for the supporters who won't stop the PR campaign and not for those tired of it who argue to stop the PR campaign, not go against amendola.

 

[cowboys2233]

Wow... an undrafted rookie, in his 1st NFL preseason game did not impress.

Open and shut case.

He will never return punts.
He cant catch.

It's pretty obvious the game is too big for him. Quite frankly, the game is too big for a lot of our guys, they got overwhelmed by the Chargers. Oh well, it seems that Camp Cupcake is rearing it's ugly head yet again, when the going gets tough, cupcakes get eaten.

Hard to believe a Norv Turner coached team would outphysical us, but they did. This does not bode well for the rest of the season, we're going to have to be happy winning eight games. For this team, even that would be overachieving. I was especially disappointed with our d-line, they got run over like bunny rabbits.















Oh, did I mention I was joking? Oh yeah!

 

[Tass]

he dropped the ball thrown to him.

The ball was thrown on the ground in front of him!

Agenda much?

 

[theogt]

people started liking him cause of welkers success and that "instant tie" was there. the comparisons were there. the supporters can get annoying as the detractors and when someone in overdrive on support won't stop the shoving of their player down people's throats, you're gonna get a negative reaction.

I'm glad you feel that you can read people's minds. The Welker comparison is obvious, but if he hadn't been so impressive in camp, he wouldn't have my stern support. One of the earliest articles on the guy was how Jerry was very impressed with him in mini-camps. What are we supposed to do? Ignore those reports? Shrug it off and say, "Oh, he's only an UDFA, he'll never amount to anything."

theogt, i'm talking basic human nature here, not for or against one player. you can tie it to amendola all you want and say it's not fair but it's never gonna be. not for the supporters who won't stop the PR campaign and not for those tired of it who argue to stop the PR campaign, not go against amendola.

There was no PR campaign before the "hating" started.

 

[iceberg]

I'm glad you feel that you can read people's minds. The Welker comparison is obvious, but if he hadn't been so impressive in camp, he wouldn't have my stern support. One of the earliest articles on the guy was how Jerry was very impressed with him in mini-camps. What are we supposed to do? Ignore those reports? Shrug it off and say, "Oh, he's only an UDFA, he'll never amount to anything."

There was no PR campaign before the "hating" started.

i saw it from several people. you wanna shrug off their bagging on an UDFA but it's fine to build up a UDFA.

he's rudy. i hope he makes the team. that would mean he's got a lot of potential and better than what we have. can we both agree we'd both like to see our WR better?

maybe amendola will make the team maybe not. but i do know it will have nothing to do with his PR campaign or the reaction that gets from others. if you want to feel the hate for him was born out of thin air, that's fine. i didn't see it that way but i'm trying not to get tied up in it.

just tellin you how i saw it come together.