An Objective opinion: Concerned about Romo

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It's pretty simple in my mind. Romo is a very good quarterback who has a couple flaws that keep him from being a truly great QB:

1. He makes a couple of really stupid decisions every game.
2. He doesn't quite have the physical tools (e.g. Favresque arm-strength) to get away with more of those stupid decisions than he does.

We can make ourselves crazy playing the "if-only" game with Romo. Hey, it's possible that he'll figure it out and play smarter in the future. It's also possible that some of the good parts of his game could suffer as a consequence. Frustrating as it is, I think he is who he is and we have to take the good with the bad.

With the talent the Cowboys have, a very good QB like Romo should be more than enough to carry them through the post-season.
 

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braw;2278610 said:
Don't try to justify talking good about the team while taking jabs at Romo. Rodgers last night played not to make mistakes and did not take chances, while Romo did make mistakes but took his chances and helped his team win. Also don't try to say that Romo is lucky to have a great team behind him because so does Matt Cassell in NE and yet you see a big difference when the QB play is bad. The teams in the NFL go as far as their QB takes them.

The guy has as many 300 yard games in 28 starts as Aikman had in a career, yet he throws for 260 1 TD and 1 int and he has problems....Get Real.

i absolutely agree with you. romo is a great QB. the issue with him is not that he does not have ability but that he gets down on himself and really beats himself up if he makes a mistake and then starts to second guess himself. if he makes a mistake, he needs to shrug it off and get on with it. the good news is that, even in his short career, he has repeatedly shown that he can do just that and win games for us.
 

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Thanks for all your comments.

But like some of you mentioned, I am starting to "doubt" when he is in the red zone. Like it is a coin toss for a TD or an INT!
 

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Yes, and I will take Romo slightly off over most of the QB's in this league. He is smart enough to recognize his play and adjust as needed. He seems to have a natural feel for this....always seems to come through when it counts (aka Staubach, Captain Comeback).

He seems to be a student of the game and should get better with time...

I agree. I'm glad you mentioned Staubach because I think some either do not remember choose not to or never saw him play but Roger could look just as bad at times as Romo has but Roger never got down and you knew that in the clutch you could count on him. Roger did not become Captain Comeback because he was a perfect QB he became that because he could overcome adversity within the game and beat you. Same with guys like Elway who at times looked like he could not hit the side of a barn in the 1st half but would come back and rally his team for the comeback
 

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Can't believe people still freak out about this. I've become numb to both ends of the spectrum. The INT didn't phase me (though the runback did). And then Tony throws that bomb to seal the game and my wife is in the other room and I just sort of non-chalantly announced, "Oh, honey, Tony just won the game," as if I were asking her to pick up a gallon of milk at the store. We're uber-spoiled at this point.
Yup.

Who throws a boneheaded pick like that? Not many good QBs.

Who converts a 3rd and 20 with a TD pass?

Noone but Tony Romo.

The article someone posted about Romo looking the safety back to the center of the field as he was escaping the pressure to heave it to Miles explained it well.

He's one of a kind. With him, there is no down and distance that is impossible. Maybe someday he'll cut out the gunslinger plays, but I sincerely doubt it - so just buckle up and enjoy the ride. Yeah, all the fans of other teams are gonna rag about how overrated he is and what a terrible decision maker he is and how he's only good because he's surrounded by superior talent, and so on. So what? Screw 'em. Jealousy makes people say stupid things.
 

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superpunk;2278686 said:
Yup.

Who throws a boneheaded pick like that? Not many good QBs.

Who converts a 3rd and 20 with a TD pass?

Noone but Tony Romo.

The article someone posted about Romo looking the safety back to the center of the field as he was escaping the pressure to heave it to Miles explained it well.

He's one of a kind. With him, there is no down and distance that is impossible. Maybe someday he'll cut out the gunslinger plays, but I sincerely doubt it - so just buckle up and enjoy the ride. Yeah, all the fans of other teams are gonna rag about how overrated he is and what a terrible decision maker he is and how he's only good because he's surrounded by superior talent, and so on. So what? Screw 'em. Jealousy makes people say stupid things.

And those same fans would be thrilled to have Romo as their QB if he ever became a FA.
 

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Romo give us huge play after huge play. You aren't going to get that from a QB that plays scared or doesn't throw the ball into tight places.

You want the exciting Romo that is setting records left and right? Then take the occasional mistakes and roll with it. We are 3-0 and the team absolutely loves Tony Romo and always feels like they can win any game or overcome any obsticle with him. That's what he gives you.

Romo is now 13-2 in his 15 road games. That is what he gives you.

If you expect an exciting QB to play mistake free in 16 games... you simply aren't being reasonable.

Romo is the man and there are about 30 NFL teams that would kill to have him.
 
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Darkhound;2278558 said:
Ok. I cannot let myself be blinded over a win vs the Pack. Yes it was a huge win, on the road, and a huge win Vs history.

That being said, I wake up today, and cannot deny the eerie feeling. This weird senstation that our QB is making "too (many) mistakes" and that thanks for the great team around him he gets away with it?

Anyone share the feeling?
Three games, three interceptions
Where is the scrambling QB we used to have?
Is the "Romo" magic, when he was not well known, now well studied by opponets fading away?

Is Romo a TRUE QB that will lead us into post season wins?

This are some of the many questions I cannot deny and ask myself?

Any comments guys?

Parcells would have had a heart attack on the sideline watching him force the ball to Witten in triple coverage.
 

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Let me ask you guys the following questions...

If we are ever again in the position to get Quinn again... would you guys take him over Romo?

Some of you mention that there are 30 or so teams that would kill for Romo... Well... i look around the league and see the following good QBs

Cutler
McNabb
Big Ben
Peyton
Brady

Some ppl think that those players are better than Romo.

Do not get me wrong, I am not trying to bash Romo, I am just trying to be objective. I totally see alot of hype and supporto for him, but I also recall being "ok" at some point with Quincy Carter...
 

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Uhhh, guys: Romo is a gunslinger.

Are you just now figuring this out?

Have you been brain-dead and/or asleep since he got the nod?

Did you miss all the things that Parcells said about him? Did you miss that his idol is Brett Favre?

If you want an Aikman-esque efficient pocket-passer or bus driver, then you shouldn't have Tony Romo on your team.

If you want a legit starting QB that is a gunslinger, who will make some mistakes but make many more great plays that win you games--and who will do it all with a smile and love for the game that will bring happiness and enjoyment to your experience as a fan--than you should love having Tony Romo.

Is he Iceman out there? Is he Aikman? No mistakes and by the book with cold accuracy? No.

Is he a winning QB that is one of the top in the league and that we are lucky to have? Yes.
 

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McCordsville Cowboy;2278695 said:
Parcells would have had a heart attack on the sideline watching him force the ball to Witten in triple coverage.

as oppose to hiking it straight to the RB and running the Wild Hog offense.
 

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Darkhound;2278677 said:
Thanks for all your comments.

But like some of you mentioned, I am starting to "doubt" when he is in the red zone. Like it is a coin toss for a TD or an INT!

He's not taking care of the ball in either red zone. Two more bad decisions this week. Yes, it's a concern because this is exactly the kind of thing that can get a better team beat by a lesser team in a close game.

It may not appear to be much of an issue in the regular season b/c the likelihood is that it'll happen more often against mediocre and poor teams that we'll be able to beat anyway, or it'll happen infrequently against a good team and we'll either overcome it or end up with a rare loss. But if it were to happen in the playoffs, the whole season could be derailed.

This tendency is something Parcells preached against when he was here, and it's definitely something that needs to be improved during the season.
 

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Darkhound;2278677 said:
Thanks for all your comments.

But like some of you mentioned, I am starting to "doubt" when he is in the red zone. Like it is a coin toss for a TD or an INT!


Cowboys were also 14 rank in the redzone last year, not exactly raising any eyebrows because most of our tds came from longer plays, but still when we get in there we need that "killer Instinct"
 

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The circumstances when he makes the mistakes are the biggest concern to me.
He has been turning the ball over in the redzone and against the eagles in his own endzone. Those are two areas to be more conservative with the ball. In the playoffs those are times that can swing the game.
 

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playcalling in the redzone leaves a lot to be desired...I cannot imagine someone drew up a play for Witten and TO to run slants to the middle of the endzone...epsecially when youn consider that TO and Witten would attract 4 - 5 defenders....so if it was drawn up that way...then surely it meant someone else would have man coverage...and Tony needs to find that person
 

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Exactly my point.
I dont feel we have that "TD power" in the Red Zone... feel more of a "lets see what happens" At least that is my feeling!
 

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Darkhound;2278713 said:
Let me ask you guys the following questions...

If we are ever again in the position to get Quinn again... would you guys take him over Romo?

Some of you mention that there are 30 or so teams that would kill for Romo... Well... i look around the league and see the following good QBs

Cutler
McNabb
Big Ben
Peyton
Brady

Some ppl think that those players are better than Romo.

Do not get me wrong, I am not trying to bash Romo, I am just trying to be objective. I totally see alot of hype and supporto for him, but I also recall being "ok" at some point with Quincy Carter...

Well I KNOW what we have in Romo, who knows what Quinn is? Plus passing on Quinn led to our getting Felix since we probably would have taken a CB over RB in the 1st this year. You can't just look at that one pick.
 
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braw;2278716 said:
as oppose to hiking it straight to the RB and running the Wild Hog offense.

Desperate Times .. cause for desperate measures.... Bellicheat wasn't ready for that one...

And having David Lee in Miami helps also.;)
 

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I agree with the OP to an extent. I think Romo may be in a bit of a slump. Last week was not a good game for him and this week was worse in my opinion. Now I am holding him to s superb standard and for most QB's last night would have been a good game, but from what we have seen from Tony, he can do better. I am a little worried we are making him into too much of a pocket passer. I love the pocket passer, I think its the way the QB position should be played, ideally, but not for Romo. He looks to frazzled when he has to stand in the pocket, at least the last two games. The O line performed fantastics last night, both run blocking and pass blocking (though no one will agree on the pass blocking I know) but Romo made them look average on the pass blocking simply becuase he seemed so uncomfortable back there. Now I am not saying Romo is going to be a problem, he has not even started 2 full seasons worth of games yet, so I think he still has a small amount of improving left, maybe more. Also, I think he may be in a bit of a slump and would expect him to come out stronger and smarter. He needs to learn to throw the ball away in the endzone, a pick in the endzone is ridiculous, (IMO with the running backs we have he should not be throwing it inside the 10 anyway, but thats another story), I think he knows his mistakes, so does Garett, its not a mechanics issue or anything like that so its not going to be hard to fix and I fully expect it to be taken care of....
 
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