An Objective opinion: Concerned about Romo

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I think we have gotten spoiled. Last year when romo started the season for us and we saw how great hey was everyone was like "holy **** this guy is awesome". Why.....well partly because he is great :D and partly because before him we suffered from mediocrity out of the QB position. When he started and stepped, up holy crap hes a tackle dodging, ball slinging, pocket scrambling, rushing when the lanes are there, QB. Well after a year it seems that some of us are already spoiled on the great QB we have and who we could have in here instead. Do i think he should change his style....no because hes great now, but do i think he should continually try to improve in different ways...damn straight. Sure he does throw int's in the red zone a lot, but hey everyone does. Lets just not forget what he does for this team, brings to the table, and most importantly where we could be at the QB position.
 

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Romo had a QB rating of what 82 last night?

There were many QB's that led this team throughout the early part of this decade who didn't average an 82 rating for the season.
 

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Romo does seem to have a tendancy to force throws in the endzone. We have a team that zeems to be perfectly designed for the redzone: Big line, great power back, big receiver, and top-tier tight end. But we were only 14th last year in red zone TD's. Even with TO running the wrong route, if Tony wasn't already planning on throwing it to Witten he wouldn't have forced it in there.

That being said, Romo is still one of the best QBs in the league. He's not perfect, but maybe this redzone thing will improve with time and practice. In Green Bay we played a good defense that went all out to try to stop our passing game. Even so, we still could have easily put up 30+ points if we had to and Romo was able to have decent numbers. If teams play us like the Pack then we showed the leaue that we can just run the ball down their throats. So instead we'll probably see more balanced game plans and bigger numbers for Romo.
 

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Darkhound;2278558 said:
Ok. I cannot let myself be blinded over a win vs the Pack. Yes it was a huge win, on the road, and a huge win Vs history.

That being said, I wake up today, and cannot deny the eerie feeling. This weird senstation that our QB is making "too (many) mistakes" and that thanks for the great team around him he gets away with it?

Anyone share the feeling?
Three games, three interceptions
Where is the scrambling QB we used to have?
Is the "Romo" magic, when he was not well known, now well studied by opponets fading away?

Is Romo a TRUE QB that will lead us into post season wins?

This are some of the many questions I cannot deny and ask myself?

Any comments guys?
I cannot take this post seriously, but I hope your asbestos suit is in warranty.

If Romo was making "too (many) mistakes" wouldn't we have a lost a game or two? The parenthetical usage also is confusing.

Have you considered that maybe with the offseason adjustments he's tried to make there's a shaking-out period, and at least it's coming earlier in the season, against some teams that are better than cold dog meat? And the "film on Romo" thing is laughable.

What do you want: Tom Brady? Quincy Carter? Pats' fans are complaining today en masse. Some want to cut Cassell now and let O'Connell play.

Shall we return to those dark days o hound? Forsooth, I think thee doth protest too much.

Certainly I'd like to see no turnovers in the red zone, but you can only learn from the past, not hold onto it.

:banghead:
 

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Darkhound;2278778 said:
I beg your pardon?
I do not consider myselff a trol... but you are entitled to your opinion.

I simply stated my opinion that Romo seems to be making much more mistakes than he should...

Hey, you brought up a legitimate concern. Forget some of these guys who bring nothing to the conversation. Chances are some of them were calling for Johnson and crying Romo sucks. That's still making me chuckle.

MichaelWinicki;2278881 said:
The guys on the radio seem to think that was TO's fault, running the wrong route and dragging his two cover guys with him.

I think that's likely right. Although as a couple have said, Romo should not have thrown the ball. I do agree he threads it into tight spaces but he's got to learn when and when not.

He's not a great QB yet. He's in his second full year! He's on the way though.
 

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He may be trying to hang in the pocket too much. He'll figure that out, too. On the throw to Bennett, he avoided two sacks with a couple of simple steps. On the TD to Austin he avoided the rush. He does get a little excited at times and can overthrow simple throws to the flat. He's led the team to 3 victories with 2 against the best teams in the league. His stats are pretty good. Better than pretty good. I'm glad to have the guy.
 
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Romo played poorly that game. He should really do some film study and learn how to just throw the ball away when the play is not there, you CANNOT have redzone turnovers that takes points off the board!
 

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i think one aspect that we ignore is how much Garrett asks out of Romo. that play was a 3rd and long. sometimes the offensive coordinator has to accept the fact that the down, yardage and the fact that you lose a lot of the field in the redzone are all against you, you have to call a safer play. you cant ask your QB is throw it into the endzone. a swing pass to Felix might have a been the perfect play, while using TO and Witten as decoys. safe play, with the potential to score. worst case scenairo, 4th down, and kick the field goal.
 

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ThreeSportStar80;2278933 said:
Romo played poorly that game. He should really do some film study and learn how to just throw the ball away when the play is not there, you CANNOT have redzone turnovers that takes points off the board!

Study film to what end? What should he look for? He did force the ball, but it doesn't help that at least one of his receivers ran the wrong route.

IMO, his red zone issues are not due to a lack of film study. Instead, it is all mental. He probably just believes that he can get away with any throw right now. Akin to a younger Brett Favre.

He took two grounding penalties last night, and that showed me that he doesn't even know how to get rid of the ball legally when he has to. He probably isn't used to giving up on plays.

IMO, his problems will be solved over time as he matures. He hasn't even started 2 full seasons yet.
 

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aikemirv;2278896 said:
Took sacks when he did not need to? When.

You can't have it both ways because if he does not wait for the open WR like Austin when he had to move up in the pocket then he throws the ball away so he does not take a sack "when he does not need to".

Double edged sword - which do you want?

How about when he could've thrown the ball away?...On each sack where he tried to do the 'dance', he ended up giving up field position...I'm not talking about sacks he doesn't have time to react to, talking about the ones where he attempted to string the play out.

Today's QB knows how to throw the ball away...Tony didn't know how to throw it away (Two grounding penalties) nor how to avoid taking the sack.

The Austin pass was a bit desperation on his part, it was what?...3rd and 25 or something?...He had room to throw that ball...On the sacks he took, he wasn't trying to release, he was trying to scramble.

Your post doesn't seem to make sense...Sure you know what a double edged sword is?
 

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He's forcing the ball. He just needs to settle down a little bit and let the game come to him. He's actually lucky he only has 3 INTs right now. He's had a good 3 dropped as well.
 

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bbailey423;2278730 said:
playcalling in the redzone leaves a lot to be desired...I cannot imagine someone drew up a play for Witten and TO to run slants to the middle of the endzone...epsecially when youn consider that TO and Witten would attract 4 - 5 defenders....so if it was drawn up that way...then surely it meant someone else would have man coverage...and Tony needs to find that person

That play couldn't have been called that way. I expect that was an execution problem.

Romo's thrown into double coverage in the end zone twice this year, hasn't he? And one off-balance throw to TO when Felix missed the block on the blitz pickup. One fumble last night in the GB red zone and one in our own end zone against the Eagles. These are correctable mistakes that are squarely on the QB. I don't doubt he'll get it worked out, but it's definitely something he needs to fix if this team is going to get better.
 

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FCBarca;2278963 said:
How about when he could've thrown the ball away?...On each sack where he tried to do the 'dance', he ended up giving up field position...I'm not talking about sacks he doesn't have time to react to, talking about the ones where he attempted to string the play out.

Today's QB knows how to throw the ball away...Tony didn't know how to throw it away (Two grounding penalties) nor how to avoid taking the sack.

The Austin pass was a bit desperation on his part, it was what?...3rd and 25 or something?...He had room to throw that ball...On the sacks he took, he wasn't trying to release, he was trying to scramble.

Your post doesn't seem to make sense...Sure you know what a double edged sword is?

Double edged sword - something that can have favorable or unfavorable consequenses.

Romo holds on to the ball to long and it results in sacks or int. groundings or long TD's. I bet you could not count on fingers and toes the number of times Romo has escaped from certain sack and made the play in the last couple of years.

I think they said last night that those were the first 2 grounding calls against Romo in his entire career.

You either want the player that makes something out of nothing or you want the player that does not.

I want the one that does and if it cost me five yards for intentional grounding twice in 2 years so be it! Romo is not used to having to dodge 2 rushers like he was last night, that is on the Oline!
 

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Idgit;2279017 said:
That play couldn't have been called that way. I expect that was an execution problem.

Romo's thrown into double coverage in the end zone twice this year, hasn't he? And one off-balance throw to TO when Felix missed the block on the blitz pickup. One fumble last night in the GB red zone and one in our own end zone against the Eagles. These are correctable mistakes that are squarely on the QB. I don't doubt he'll get it worked out, but it's definitely something he needs to fix if this team is going to get better.

The one to TO was not Double Coverage just a bad or tipped throw.
 

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Idgit;2279017 said:
That play couldn't have been called that way. I expect that was an execution problem.

Romo's thrown into double coverage in the end zone twice this year, hasn't he? And one off-balance throw to TO when Felix missed the block on the blitz pickup. One fumble last night in the GB red zone and one in our own end zone against the Eagles. These are correctable mistakes that are squarely on the QB. I don't doubt he'll get it worked out, but it's definitely something he needs to fix if this team is going to get better.

His red zone problems started in preseason (see game vs. Houston where he had another red zone INT). I actually dread when we have the ball inside the 20 and he drops back to pass. I would much rather he bomb it from far away, like he did with Miles last night.

I think he struggles with reading coverages in tight spaces. The end zone obviously forces a lot of bodies in a smaller area, and he seems to struggle sometimes when we're inside the 20.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;2278983 said:
He's forcing the ball. He just needs to settle down a little bit and let the game come to him. He's actually lucky he only has 3 INTs right now. He's had a good 3 dropped as well.


Every QB has Ints dropped, every game almost - That is an old argument. We dropped 2 for Rodgers last night I believe.
 

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I think last nights int. in the endzone was a combination of things. Obviously, a poor decision by Romo, and confusion of the Wr/TE. But more staggering and odd to me was the fact that we started the drive on our own 19 yd line, Romo was 2-5 passing for 15 yds. The rest of the drive Barber ran 8 times for 55 yds. So, we get 1st and 10 at the 11yd line, what do we do? LEt's pass on 1st down.... SACK! 5yd loss... Ok so 2nd and 15 from the 16yd line, what do we do? Let's run.... 2 yd gain, gee who didn't see that coming.? So, third and 13 from the 14yd line, what do you and everyone else think is coming? DUH! Sorry, but if your pounding the ball down their throats and they can't stop you, but you can't complete a pass to save your life in the open field, what makes you think that you are gonna do it in the red zone where everything tightens up and the field is even that much smaller? Horrible play selection there. I love Garrett he does an excellent job, but sometimes he needs to stick with what is working. Basically a first and goal situation, you've got the TD machine tearing up the defense and you essentially take him out of the equation by passing on first down.
 

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aikemirv;2279051 said:
Every QB has Ints dropped, every game almost - That is an old argument. We dropped 2 for Rodgers last night I believe.


Nah, only Cowboy QB's throw balls that are almost picked. :rolleyes:
 

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aikemirv;2279029 said:
Double edged sword - something that can have favorable or unfavorable consequenses.

Romo holds on to the ball to long and it results in sacks or int. groundings or long TD's. I bet you could not count on fingers and toes the number of times Romo has escaped from certain sack and made the play in the last couple of years.

I think they said last night that those were the first 2 grounding calls against Romo in his entire career.

You either want the player that makes something out of nothing or you want the player that does not.

I want the one that does and if it cost me five yards for intentional grounding twice in 2 years so be it! Romo is not used to having to dodge 2 rushers like he was last night, that is on the Oline!


Since when does his play over the course of several years factor into what he did last night?...So, for every time he escaped a pass rush in the last couple of seasons, he gets a pass for taking a sack when he could've thrown it away?...That doesn't even make sense

And it may very well have been the first two times he's been flagged for grounding but he did it not once, but twice last night...How is that possible?...Doesn't the QB coach or Garrett walk over to Romo and say, THIS is how you throw away a pass?...Only for him to repeat it later in the game?

Poor decision making by Romo in many ways last night...T.O. laying into him alone should've illustrated that.

I doubt many fans much less Jerry wants to see less of a 'gambling' Romo in trying to evade the rush but understanding how to throw the ball away seems like it would be something to understand and execute properly (At least after a few seasons in the league, non?).

Passrushers are going to get past the 0-line at times...Just a reality of the NFL, players will make plays...But it also means that if he cannot evade the rush, he needs to know how to get rid of the ball.
 
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