An Objective opinion: Concerned about Romo

[DaBoys4Life]

I agree. The 1st one was a situation where he was throwing to the spot the RB should have been had he not slipped. I mean, that kind of call is just part of the game. Sometimes that's going to happen. No big deal IMO. The turn over that really bothered me was the one where he tried to throw the ball when the defense was all over him. He really should know better then that. He was asking for that ball to be stripped. I would rather see him cover it up and just take the sack right there. Go get em the next play.

Thats true.

 

[khiladi]

Romo has a problem that he needs to correct... That is all there is too it...

He corrected his footwork, and he needs to correct his trying to force the issue when he's in the red-zone. It's just that simple. He forced it to terry Glenn last year, he forced it against Houston in pre-season, and he did it again last night.

People telling you to live with it are indulging in idol-worship. It is as if his forcing the issue is a necessary result of all the great qualities Romo has, which is pure B.S.

Plays like that can kill us in the play-offs, especially when the games are tight, and plays like that are correctable for Romo. He over-shot Marion Barber on the blitz last week, despite Marion being wide-open. That play would have netted huge yardage.

Romo is the last person who will be telling you that he needs to live with his forcing the issue, especially in the red-zone.

 

[aikemirv]

I don't understand the comparison is it so hard to not want the QB to turn the ball over while we are in the redzone???

The comparison is.....

QB's throw INT's - they really do, not just the bad ones either.

Sure I don't like the ones in the endzone - they are disconcerting, but I am not going to come in here and question Romo every week about 1 Int a game, a fumble here or there (which does happen) and heaven forbid the "he should have had a couple more Ints" line when the guy makes play after play week after week and is the reason why the Cowboys are the best team in the NFL and has given me more enjoyment watching the Cowboys over the last 2.5 years than I have had the 8-9 prior!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[khiladi]

I think last nights int. in the endzone was a combination of things. Obviously, a poor decision by Romo, and confusion of the Wr/TE. But more staggering and odd to me was the fact that we started the drive on our own 19 yd line, Romo was 2-5 passing for 15 yds. The rest of the drive Barber ran 8 times for 55 yds. So, we get 1st and 10 at the 11yd line, what do we do? LEt's pass on 1st down.... SACK! 5yd loss... Ok so 2nd and 15 from the 16yd line, what do we do? Let's run.... 2 yd gain, gee who didn't see that coming.? So, third and 13 from the 14yd line, what do you and everyone else think is coming? DUH! Sorry, but if your pounding the ball down their throats and they can't stop you, but you can't complete a pass to save your life in the open field, what makes you think that you are gonna do it in the red zone where everything tightens up and the field is even that much smaller? Horrible play selection there. I love Garrett he does an excellent job, but sometimes he needs to stick with what is working. Basically a first and goal situation, you've got the TD machine tearing up the defense and you essentially take him out of the equation by passing on first down.

Good point and I was thinking the same thing... Dallas tends to get too pass-happy every now and then in the red-zone.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

The comparison is.....

QB's throw INT's - they really do, not just the bad ones either.

Sure I don't like the ones in the endzone - they are disconcerting, but I am not going to come in here and question Romo every week about 1 Int a game, a fumble here or there (which does happen) and heaven forbid the "he should have had a couple more Ints" line when the guy makes play after play week after week and is the reason why the Cowboys are the best team in the NFL and has given me more enjoyment watching the Cowboys over the last 2.5 years than I have had the 8-9 prior!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think its reasonable to expect from us that he doesn't turn the ball over in the redzone. His first objective should be TD if not throw it out of the back of the endzone aslong as we get 3.

 

[thekavorka]

I'm still concerned about him knowing how to intelligently throw the ball away and in what situations.

 

[khiladi]

Study film to what end? What should he look for? He did force the ball, but it doesn't help that at least one of his receivers ran the wrong route.

I don't care who in the hell ran the wrong route. The ball should never have been thrown. When you see five guys around you, you don't throw it. It is a bigger mistake to throw the ball when 4-5 guys are standing around then it is to run a wrong route in this scenario.

Further, he attempted to force it into the hands of Witten from the right-side. TO was running the route at the left of Witten and was behind him. The safety from the right of Witten intercepted the pass, so the route of TO had no bearing on the throw of Romo.

Against Houston, when rolling to his right, he threw it while the WR was blanketed.

 

[khiladi]

I think its reasonable to expect from us that he doesn't turn the ball over in the redzone. His first objective should be TD if not throw it out of the back of the endzone aslong as we get 3.

Exactly... When your in the red-zone, you expect points. Coming out of a situation where you don't score even 3 in the red-zone is unacceptable from a coaching point of view.

 

[Darkhound]

Well.. this has been interesting.

Depite the good and bad comments, I think some of us DO share the feeling of some "danger" in the Red Zone.

I dont care, nor I am here to please people. I have been a strong Romo supporter... but I have all the right to express what I think. Whether I am right or wrong, that is another story. Isnt this the beauty of debating and expression?

I always try to post something of value, and not just something out of a sour moment. I am sure many more people would have agreed if the outcome of the game would have been a loss.

The game has not even started (call me pesimistic, call me realistic, whatever) but I HAD to ask myself "will he throw an INT. I never EVER had that feeling with Aikman. not even if he was picked 2 times on a game, or even on consecutive games. But for the time being.... I do feel that at some point he will get picked.

Am I saying we should get rid of ROMO? no... but I do think this issue deserves a bit more attention.

 

[aikemirv]

I think its reasonable to expect from us that he doesn't turn the ball over in the redzone. His first objective should be TD if not throw it out of the back of the endzone aslong as we get 3.

I sat on the couch and said the same thing to myself last night but....

Most of what I have discussed in this thread was not related to that pick ( I did not like it either) - he should have thrown it away - he did not.

My response that you posted to was in regards to dropped ints - nothing more - nothing less - I pointed out Rodgers dropped INts. The poster said he was in his first year strating so then I pointed out Peyton's 2 ints - one of which was returned for a TD.

 

[slick325]

Romo has been such a breath of fresh air based on what Jerry and us as fans have had to endure post-Troy Aikman. Romo is a true franchise QB and I am beyond happy to say he is a Dallas Cowboys player.

That said, I think Dallas is leaving points on the field and that concerns me. As someone else wrote it's the turnovers in the red zone that really get to me. You can't be careless with the ball inside either 20 yd. line. If Romo curbs that the rest of the season I would have no issues with him really. All QB's throw picks or turn the ball over at some time it's when and where the mistake occurs that's the concern. (See: Brett Favre in OT vs. the Giants in the NFC Championship).

 

[aikemirv]

Well.. this has been interesting.

Depite the good and bad comments, I think some of us DO share the feeling of some "danger" in the Red Zone.

I dont care, nor I am here to please people. I have been a strong Romo supporter... but I have all the right to express what I think. Whether I am right or wrong, that is another story. Isnt this the beauty of debating and expression?

I always try to post something of value, and not just something out of a sour moment. I am sure many more people would have agreed if the outcome of the game would have been a loss.

The game has not even started (call me pesimistic, call me realistic, whatever) but I HAD to ask myself "will he throw an INT. I never EVER had that feeling with Aikman. not even if he was picked 2 times on a game, or even on consecutive games. But for the time being.... I do feel that at some point he will get picked.

Am I saying we should get rid of ROMO? no... but I do think this issue deserves a bit more attention.

Aikman was not good throwing in the red zone IMO. He did not have to be - we had Emmitt - one of the best RB's to ever play and probably the best at finding the endzone hands down.

We have Barber - one of the best at finding the end zone in the NFL today. Like some have said - we should have used him at that point last night - Garrett did not. Romo should not have thrown it - Aikman would have thrown it away.

Where is the 120 post thread on Barbers 2 fumbles????????

 

[Darkhound]

Exactly...

I hope we dont get on a situation, where we get to the Red Zone and we KNOW and TEAMS know we will have to run....

Maybe this is jsut coincidense, or maybe we are making a storm in a glass of water. But I know more people like me, share the feeling that Romo had made frequent mistakes in the Red Zone as of lately

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I sat on the couch and said the same thing to myself last night but....

Most of what I have discussed in this thread was not related to that pick ( I did not like it either) - he should have thrown it away - he did not.

My response that you posted to was in regards to dropped ints - nothing more - nothing less - I pointed out Rodgers dropped INts. The poster said he was in his first year strating so then I pointed out Peyton's 2 ints - one of which was returned for a TD.

I'm happy to discuss Peyton or any other QB you would like. Fact of the mater is that TO ratio is still the single biggest stat in Wins and Loses in the NFL.

Tony has thrown 3 picks in 3 games. He's had two fumbles as well. Things happen but at some point, what will happen is that those will eventually come back to bit us, should they continue. That is true for Peyton Manning, Ben R., Tony R. or any QB you want to discuss. That's just how it works.

Sorry if this is not what you want to hear or if it is not a popular opinion.

 

[khiladi]

I'm happy to discuss Peyton or any other QB you would like. Fact of the mater is that TO ratio is still the single biggest stat in Wins and Loses in the NFL.

Tony has thrown 3 picks in 3 games. He's had two fumbles as well. Things happen but at some point, what will happen is that those will eventually come back to bit us, should they continue. That is true for Peyton Manning, Ben R., Tony R. or any QB you want to discuss. That's just how it works.

Sorry if this is not what you want to hear or if it is not a popular opinion.

Wade Phillips preaches that turnovers are the key to defense and JJ use to preach it all the time... This team can't develop a complacent aw-schucks attitude with regards to turnovers...

 

[Darkhound]

Even Deion commented on Total Access, brought this concren up about Romo.

He even said that this is not the print of a Super Bowl Caliber team.

 

[aikemirv]

I'm happy to discuss Peyton or any other QB you would like. Fact of the mater is that TO ratio is still the single biggest stat in Wins and Loses in the NFL.

Tony has thrown 3 picks in 3 games. He's had two fumbles as well. Things happen but at some point, what will happen is that those will eventually come back to bit us, should they continue. That is true for Peyton Manning, Ben R., Tony R. or any QB you want to discuss. That's just how it works.

Sorry if this is not what you want to hear or if it is not a popular opinion.

What I really don't like is complainers - it irritates me to no end - we got a lot of them around here - I have known a few in my lifetime - it gets old.

Romo has thrown for 900 yards in three games - has 5 tds I think and that could be 7 if TO's is reviewed and Austin makes a bee line for the pylon - has a 102 rating and his team is 3-0 and has just beaten arguably 2 of the top 5 teams in the league at their place the last 2 weeks!

 

[Idgit]

I'm right there with you.

I want to slap the ever-living **** out of some of the posters here.

Some people here don't deserve to have a good team to cheer for. How quickly these morons forget the 5-11 seasons with QC and Hambrick and the spares we had all about. That's the type of team this whiners deserve.

This team is great. They are a joy to watch and win games for their fans. They do it with good attitudes and effort. They are winning games despite playing on the of the hardest opening stretches in the NFL. The team they beat last week just beat the best team in the AFC,

We have one of the top QBs in the game. We have talent everywhere.

Could we be playing cleaner? Sure. Should that be a sign of worry? No! It should be a sign of hope! We are winning games against good teams while not playing our best football; we should be excited about what we can accomplish.

Some of you are way to obsessed with this playoff drought. Yeah, it sucks. But who cares?

If you need to talk about what your team has accomplished in the past, then you already have all the ammo you need to win that argument with any other fan (most super bowls, most playoff appearances, most playoff wins, etc.).

If you want to talk about this year and the future, then you should be excited about this team.

Like Tony says, enjoy the ride. We'll get to the playoffs later and will climb that hill then. Don't let some narrow obsession with that talking point cause you to not enjoy watching a football team that most fans in this world would kill to have.

These guys are good! Enjoy the now! Quit obsessing over a stupid talking point!

The comparison is.....

QB's throw INT's - they really do, not just the bad ones either.

Sure I don't like the ones in the endzone - they are disconcerting, but I am not going to come in here and question Romo every week about 1 Int a game, a fumble here or there (which does happen) and heaven forbid the "he should have had a couple more Ints" line when the guy makes play after play week after week and is the reason why the Cowboys are the best team in the NFL and has given me more enjoyment watching the Cowboys over the last 2.5 years than I have had the 8-9 prior!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm so used to being called a homer, it's weird suddenly being a pessimist.
The fact is, we had two fumbles in the red zone that ended the game against Seattle two years ago, and Romo's last throw last year against the Giants was a red zone pick. He also missed a wide open TO in the red zone late last year (was that the Philly game, or the Giants playoff loss)? It cost us 14 points against a good Eagle team and cost us again last night. Either of the last two games could have 1st-round bye implications. It's perfectly legitimate to bring the point up as one of the few obvious areas of concern for this young season.

 

[aikemirv]

Even Deion commented on Total Access, brought this concren up about Romo.

He even said that this is not the print of a Super Bowl Caliber team.

And Deion was also complaining about Johnny Lee Higgins showboating before he made it to the endzone:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

I like Deion but come on - Pot meet Kettle.

He also said championship defenses don't make errors pretty much in complaining about the pass to Driver

 

[DallasCowpoke]

Any comments guys?

Let's bench him and see if we can trade our 3&4 picks from Cle to Green Bay for Matt Ryan.

Make it happen Jerry!