An Old Idea: Play Choice More

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If only we could sticky this on Garrett's forehead 5 times a week maybe, just maybe Choice will get 3 reps next week...:bang2::bang2::bang2::bang2:
 

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BlindFaith;3082217 said:
I agree. I've said this before. Use Barber as a pass receiving/running fullback alah Tony Richardson and Richie Anderson.

Put him and Choice in the backfield together. Let Barber block some. He's powerful enough and loves contact.

This would give us two added dimensions. One, we would have a fullback that could do more than just block and two, it gets a more explosive play maker in at tailback.

I know this isn't Madden and you cant just go moving players around, but I think Barber could excel in this type of role.

I disagree with playing MBIII at FB.

Choice 15 + carries

MBIII 3rd down, short yardage, red zone.

Felix change of pace

I like the way the staff has mixed in young players this year.

RB is one position where the staff gets an F by trying to justify contracts and draft status.
 

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RS12;3082093 said:
Seeing as how the O Line decided not to show up yesterday, you could have put Jim Brown out there in his prime and they would not have been able to run it.

thank you - and THIS is our concern at this point.

where did our OL go and the loss of columbo is going to be huge.
 

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SkinsandTerps;3082064 said:
Isn't Choice a poor blocker ?

That is probably part of the issue.

I have seen him block. Is he as good a Barber? Probably not. Wade seems to like some younger players. Is it an evil JJ plot? It seems like we are force feeding Barber into the game no matter his level of play. Choice deserves more consideration, at least until the other RB's are closer to 100%.
 

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RS12;3082093 said:
Seeing as how the O Line decided not to show up yesterday, you could have put Jim Brown out there in his prime and they would not have been able to run it.


I dont buy that. Not when you run only 11 times in what essentially was a 3 point game for 3+ quarters. You cant establish a running game without sticking to it. We've seen it against us for years. We'll stop the run for 2-2.5 quarters, then all of a sudden, holes begin to break open.
 

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JohnsKey19;3082243 said:
I dont buy that. Not when you run only 11 times in what essentially was a 3 point game for 3+ quarters. You cant establish a running game without sticking to it. We've seen it against us for years. We'll stop the run for 2-2.5 quarters, then all of a sudden, holes begin to break open.

did you WATCH our OL?

just because we wanna run it doesn't mean we'll be able to "at will". GB did a great job stopping us, and our OL fell apart at the seems, esp after columbo went out.

if you don't think crappy play from the OL has a huge impact on the overall game, then not much sense in really going on from here.
 

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Wouldn't have mattered yesterday with our offensive line getting whipped at the point of attack.
 

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iceberg;3082259 said:
did you WATCH our OL?

just because we wanna run it doesn't mean we'll be able to "at will". GB did a great job stopping us, and our OL fell apart at the seems, esp after columbo went out.

if you don't think crappy play from the OL has a huge impact on the overall game, then not much sense in really going on from here.

I think you're missing his point. If you're not even going to attempt to keep the D honest your hurting yourself. Lets not act as if the passing game was doing wonders. Garrett bailed on the run game because we were down. He always does that.
 

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iceberg;3082259 said:
did you WATCH our OL?

just because we wanna run it doesn't mean we'll be able to "at will". GB did a great job stopping us, and our OL fell apart at the seems, esp after columbo went out.

if you don't think crappy play from the OL has a huge impact on the overall game, then not much sense in really going on from here.

Hard to call 4.4 yards per rush being called stopped. The only thing that was stopped was calling running plays. We only ran the ball 14 times in the game. We had been averaging 26 rushes per game.

GreenBay had been holding teams to a 3.5 average per carry. We were running on them, we just stopped.

Then GB teed off on us with blitzes and pressure that we didn't read or execute against.
 

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DaBoys4Life;3082277 said:
I think you're missing his point. If you're not even going to attempt to keep the D honest your hurting yourself. Lets not act as if the passing game was doing wonders. Garrett bailed on the run game because we were down. He always does that.

well let's not act like running the ball was giving us huge success and we stopped doing it cause garrett is an idiot - deal?

he bailed on the run cause we kept getting sacked and 2nd / 15 isn't a running down now is it?
 

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BlindFaith;3082283 said:
Hard to call 4.4 yards per rush being called stopped. The only thing that was stopped was calling running plays. We only ran the ball 14 times in the game. We had been averaging 26 rushes per game.

GreenBay had been holding teams to a 3.5 average per carry. We were running on them, we just stopped.

Then GB teed off on us with blitzes and pressure that we didn't read or execute against.

:hammer::hammer::hammer:
 

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iceberg;3082291 said:
well let's not act like running the ball was giving us huge success and we stopped doing it cause garrett is an idiot - deal?

he bailed on the run cause we kept getting sacked and 2nd / 15 isn't a running down now is it?

Okay if Romo was getting sacked and pressured so much wouldn't it make more sense to run the ball? I guess 1st and 10 isn't a running down.
 

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BlindFaith;3082283 said:
Hard to call 4.4 yards per rush being called stopped. The only thing that was stopped was calling running plays. We only ran the ball 14 times in the game. We had been averaging 26 rushes per game.

GreenBay had been holding teams to a 3.5 average per carry. We were running on them, we just stopped.

Then GB teed off on us with blitzes and pressure that we didn't read or execute against.

Originally Posted by ethiostar
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First Half

* Series one -- two rushes, 20 yards;
* Series two -- three rushes, 8 yards;
* Series three -- one 1st down rush for 2 yards. Romo sacked on 2nd, taking the run option away on 3rd;
* Series four -- two rushes for 3 yards. Choice is two feet short on a 3rd-and-4 draw;
* Series five -- no rushes; Roy Williams fumbles on drive's only play;
* Series six -- Romo is sacked on 1st down, putting Dallas in 2nd and long. No rushes;

Second Half

* Series one - Barber rushes on 1st for no gain. Romo sacked on 2nd down;
* Series two -- Choice runs once for 11 yards; Williams and Witten bungle the drive on subsequent plays. (see above);
* Series three -- Felix Jones rushes on 1st down for 4 yards. Romo sacked on next play and fumbles;
* Series four -- Dallas takes the field here down 17-0 with 10:44 left and doesn't call another run.

put the hate down and simply tell me - does it sound like we missed on a lot of running opportunties in here when you break it out play by play? most of the complaints i hear about us not running don't seem to take into account the way the game unfolded.
 

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The Realist;3082234 said:
I disagree with playing MBIII at FB.

Choice 15 + carries

Why? He'd still get his share of snaps. He'd give us an added option that Anderson doesn't. We could still use our Hback for some blocking.

I'm not saying we should use him as the lead blocker every play. Use him to take some of the snaps Anderson gets as well as short yardage.
 

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DaBoys4Life;3082296 said:
Okay if Romo was getting sacked and pressured so much wouldn't it make more sense to run the ball? I guess 1st and 10 isn't a running down.

we did run on 1st at times. do you know the breakdown of run vs pass before we were too far down to stay with the run?
 

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BlindFaith;3082283 said:
Hard to call 4.4 yards per rush being called stopped. The only thing that was stopped was calling running plays. We only ran the ball 14 times in the game. We had been averaging 26 rushes per game.

GreenBay had been holding teams to a 3.5 average per carry. We were running on them, we just stopped.

Then GB teed off on us with blitzes and pressure that we didn't read or execute against.

avg is also misleading we ran well at the start then we started getting 2nd and 9, 3rd and 8 that is when we did not get hit with a penalty forcing long yardage sitations. Dallas could run and run but with the blocking we were doing that is like running into a brick wall and the same people would be hollering. The plays that were open we failed on because of drops and a big fumble things around the line of scrimmage were not working.
 

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iceberg;3082303 said:
yea, running on 2nd and 17 is a great call.

No kidding, do people watch the games? Dallas was stuck in may of these long yardage. We ran well on the 1st series of the game after that GB was making plays aginst the run. One big reason Dallas could not convert on 3rd is because we were constantly looking at 3rd and long.
 

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iceberg;3082297 said:
Originally Posted by ethiostar
.......(stuff removed)
First Half

* Series one -- two rushes, 20 yards;
* Series two -- three rushes, 8 yards;
* Series three -- one 1st down rush for 2 yards. Romo sacked on 2nd, taking the run option away on 3rd;
* Series four -- two rushes for 3 yards. Choice is two feet short on a 3rd-and-4 draw;
* Series five -- no rushes; Roy Williams fumbles on drive's only play;
* Series six -- Romo is sacked on 1st down, putting Dallas in 2nd and long. No rushes;

Second Half

* Series one - Barber rushes on 1st for no gain. Romo sacked on 2nd down;
* Series two -- Choice runs once for 11 yards; Williams and Witten bungle the drive on subsequent plays. (see above);
* Series three -- Felix Jones rushes on 1st down for 4 yards. Romo sacked on next play and fumbles;
* Series four -- Dallas takes the field here down 17-0 with 10:44 left and doesn't call another run.

put the hate down and simply tell me - does it sound like we missed on a lot of running opportunties in here when you break it out play by play? most of the complaints i hear about us not running don't seem to take into account the way the game unfolded.

gotta establish the run. Every play Romo was sacked could of been a run.
 

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DaBoys4Life;3082277 said:
I think you're missing his point. If you're not even going to attempt to keep the D honest your hurting yourself. Lets not act as if the passing game was doing wonders. Garrett bailed on the run game because we were down. He always does that.

Thank you sir.
 
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