Another Reason to Select Brooks

To be totally honest, I don't know much about Brooks as a player except what I've read and that he played the 3-4 for Al Groh. I could see giving up a 6th, maybe a 5th on the kid, but anything more is absurd to me given his past track record with off the field issues. JMO.
 
I hope the Boys get him... maybe we can light a fire under JAMES!!! he had an okay year but he has to increase his Turnovers!!! as for SHANLE, what has he done to make anyone think he can be a full time starter on a playoff team!!!
 
Hostile said:
You can't trade a FA though pard.

No, but you can tag him and then shop him, which is what I would expect we would do in a sutuation like that.
 
ABQCOWBOY said:
No, but you can tag him and then shop him, which is what I would expect we would do in a sutuation like that.
True enough.

Carpenter
James
Brooks
Ware

Somehow that just looks scary good for 7 or 8 years.
 
StarAmongStars said:
I thought that Shanle had a pretty good year last season before he got hurt, not sure if he's a bonafide starter yet though...but I'd rather stick with him that roll the dice on a guy like Brooks given his track record.

We are loaded right now at LB, and even if we lose Bradie James to FA next year we have a lot of young guys like Shanle waiting in the wings to replace him. Keep a close eye on Hoyte/Parham as well....after a year on the practice squad both have enough raw talent to make a roster in the NFL.
If we have to rely on Shanle to start the whole season we'll be screaming to bring back James. He might be good as a spot starter and great on ST but he'll never be a 16 game starter in the NFL.

I'd rather see Carpenter moved to ILB than have to rely on Shanle.
 
One name I don't see mentioned here is Ryan Fowler. That dude seemed to make plays in limited opportunities. He seems like a prototypical MLB for 3-4 scheme too.

Sure that was only limited amounts he played, but does seem like he has potential to be full time starter and not limited like Shanle seemed to be.

Either way, I think Cowboys should keep James than going after a gamble. Unless obviously its for a 5th or 6th rounder. Than the risk vs reward might be worth it. Since most people think he wont last that long, I guess hopefully cowboys don't bid higher than that, certianly I hope they don't bid a first day pick anyway.
 
RCowboyFan said:
One name I don't see mentioned here is Ryan Fowler. That dude seemed to make plays in limited opportunities. He seems like a prototypical MLB for 3-4 scheme too.

Sure that was only limited amounts he played, but does seem like he has potential to be full time starter and not limited like Shanle seemed to be.

Either way, I think Cowboys should keep James than going after a gamble. Unless obviously its for a 5th or 6th rounder. Than the risk vs reward might be worth it. Since most people think he wont last that long, I guess hopefully cowboys don't bid higher than that, certianly I hope they don't bid a first day pick anyway.

Don't you know that Fowler is garbage and is a waste of roster space and Shanle is a future Pro Bowler? /sarcasm
 
RCowboyFan said:
One name I don't see mentioned here is Ryan Fowler. That dude seemed to make plays in limited opportunities. He seems like a prototypical MLB for 3-4 scheme too.

Sure that was only limited amounts he played, but does seem like he has potential to be full time starter and not limited like Shanle seemed to be.

Either way, I think Cowboys should keep James than going after a gamble. Unless obviously its for a 5th or 6th rounder. Than the risk vs reward might be worth it. Since most people think he wont last that long, I guess hopefully cowboys don't bid higher than that, certianly I hope they don't bid a first day pick anyway.
I like Fowler, but I'll be honest, I like him better as a backup. Ayodele and James should start. I'd like to see Brooks and Fowler as backups, with Burnett and Boiman backing up the outside.
 
Yeagermeister said:
Don't you know that Fowler is garbage and is a waste of roster space and Shanle is a future Pro Bowler? /sarcasm

I forget his alter ego roams the zone again to carry that banner.
 
Hostile said:
I like Fowler, but I'll be honest, I like him better as a backup. Ayodele and James should start. I'd liek to see Brooks and Fowler as backups, with Burnett and Boiman backing up the outside.
I keep forgetting about Burnett :banghead:
 
Hostile said:
I like Fowler, but I'll be honest, I like him better as a backup. Ayodele and James should start. I'd liek to see Brooks and Fowler as backups, with Burnett and Boiman backing up the outside.

But then if you would like Brooks to be a backup, don't you think 2nd round is way too high of gamble for that? Granted you think he might be a future star/starter, but if James ends up staying, I just dont' see that high round pick as worth the gamble.
 
RCowboyFan said:
But then if you would like Brooks to be a backup, don't you think 2nd round is way too high of gamble for that? Granted you think he might be a future star/starter, but if James ends up staying, I just dont' see that high round pick as worth the gamble.
I think we'll offer a 5th, unless we have wind of another team ahead then will offer a 4th. I'd offer a 3rd, but that's me. I have nothing to do with the VR braintrust. I think a 2nd is too high unless his college coach is whispering sweet nothings about him.

If that happens, no it isn't too high IMO. He can be groomed to start, and could possibly win the job outright. We don't know at this point.
 
Hostile said:
True enough.

Carpenter
James
Brooks
Ware

Somehow that just looks scary good for 7 or 8 years.

Yep. A LB corp like that would right there with the best I've ever seen.
 
ABQCOWBOY said:
Yep. A LB corp like that would right there with the best I've ever seen.

Thats bit too much based on projected production in NFL. One can only say that after they have played at least couple of years in NFL, IMO.
 
Yeagermeister said:
If we have to rely on Shanle to start the whole season we'll be screaming to bring back James. He might be good as a spot starter and great on ST but he'll never be a 16 game starter in the NFL.

I'd rather see Carpenter moved to ILB than have to rely on Shanle.

Shanle had the best year of his career last season. And he's just entering his 4th season in the NFL. I thought we looked pretty stout against the run last year as well with him in the lineup after Dat's injury as well.

As for being a true starter that can go 16 games, you're right...that may never happen. But don't overlook this kid, he's hard working parcells type of player that comes to play on ST and could be very effective in a 3-4 rotation.
 
Hostile said:
I think we'll offer a 5th, unless we have wind of another team ahead then will offer a 4th. I'd offer a 3rd, but that's me. I have nothing to do with the VR braintrust. I think a 2nd is too high unless his college coach is whispering sweet nothings about him.

If that happens, no it isn't too high IMO. He can be groomed to start, and could possibly win the job outright. We don't know at this point.

I'd give a 3rd for him too....in a hearbeat, however there's no way he makes it past SF in the 3rd...maybe even the 2nd for them.
 
RCowboyFan said:
Thats bit too much based on projected production in NFL. One can only say that after they have played at least couple of years in NFL, IMO.

I agree but this is all pretty much speculation. We are speculating that we would even go after Brooks.

I guess if I'm speculating the whole way through, I'd rather speculate that Brooks, Carpenter, Ware and Bradie are all going to be as good as advertised.

:D
 
My vote, although worthless, would be to go as high as a 3rd if Parcells is sure what he is getting. Not to change the path of this thread but isn't it nice to be arguing about a possible first rounder at on time vs. the Chuch v. quincy threads. Nice to have talent back on the field in a Cowboy uniform.
 
I haven't given up on Ware, Burnett, James, Carpenter myself. Even if Burnett takes an entire year to rehab the knee, he'll still be ready to contribute to an NFL team before Brooks is.
 
InmanRoshi said:
I haven't given up on Ware, Burnett, James, Carpenter myself. Even if Burnett takes an entire year to rehab the knee, he'll still be ready to contribute to an NFL team before Brooks is.
Nor has anyone else.

My original premise still stands. If we acquire him and he comes in with head on right it accomplishes 2 things. We have depth and if Bradie James decides to test the FA waters we're not scrambling to replace him if his price is too high. Simply a case of what if, and hedging our bets. That's all.

Look closely, nowhere will you see a parachute or hear the word "Geronimo" in this thread.
 

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