Any Chance Holmgren Would Be Interested In Coaching Here?

[KJJ]

All things being equal, that would probably be my first choice. Give him another chance at the NFL level. He didn't look worse than Belichick in Cleveland.

But would Jerry respect him? I suppose he'd have to in order to even get him here.

Saban would be my last choice.

 

[Picksix]

Yep, me too. Plus, maybe the biggest plus, he coached Tony's closest comparison in Favre and knows how to manage a QB like that. He'd come in with enough experience and league cred to say, "Look, this is the way we're doing it." No more of this shuffling of responsibility among
Garrett, Callahan, and Romo... Holmgren is the alpha dog type who would take charge and be decisive about our offensive direction.

On Zimmer, yes, this organization should go after the absolute best possible coach it can get. I'm not a University of Texas fan, but you have to admire how they're at least going after the best coach in the country. But we know how Jerry is. The difference is, I think Zimmer has a lot more backbone than you give him credit for. At least in the past, he's been very clear and direct, even blunt, in telling Jerry what he thinks about players. And he knows from his time with Parcells that you have to be that way. I honestly think if Jerry tried to run over him like he's done to Garrett, he'd tell Jerry to do anatomically impossible things to himself or even quit. He doesn't have the desire to please everyone and be loved like Garrett does... He's just a completely different personality.

I do understand how most fans would be totally underwhelmed and unimpressed with the hire, though.

 

[Picksix]

Word is, that's what's hurt him in interviews. Owners don't seem to care for that too much. And as far as how he would do as HC, there's really no way to know if he'd be better than Garrett. He's had more success as a coordinator, but that doesn't mean anything. A lot of really unsuccessful HC's have been better coordinators. Sure, only one to find out, but you just don't know if he'd be better or not. And if he did go tell Jerry to, you know, or quit, what good does that do? W could say, "well, he couldn't be any worse than Garrett." Well, yeah he could, and even if he isn't, that's not what we're going for. If Garrett's a 3, and Zimmer's a 4, it's still not good.

If Garrett is fired and we hire Zimmer, okay. I'd take it as a positive. Just don't if he'd be my first choice.

 

[Iron_Man]

Ok, Just through out possible names. I think Bruce Arians would have been a great coach for us. I do think Ken Whisenhunt would be a good alternative. Jay Gruden from the Bengals will have some HC interviews I think. I really like Zimmer, but understand other's reservations.

 

[KJJ]

Some of the names being mentioned like Zimmer would end up being another Jerry Jones puppet. Turning the Cowboys around is going to be too big a job for a first year head coach. This team doesn't need another head coach trying to learn on the job. It's going to take an experienced HC who Jerry respects and the players respect to get the Cowboys going in the right direction. The team needs a proven HC who's not going to take the job to be undermined by Jerry.

 

[khiladi]

First off, we're in a race for the playoffs......

Second, why on earth would you want him? Get a guy with some new blood. No more has-beens. Shanahan should've taught people a lesson.

Uh, because he took two teams as a HC to the Super Bowl, one with an average QB. If it weren't for the refs, he'd be the only HC I think, to win a SB with two different teams. You want to maximize Romo, Holmgren would be a perfect fit.

 

[khiladi]

Nobody is going to be GM here with Jerry in charge... As Chocolate Lab pointed out, the front office will essentially be the same. Now if Holmgren can get JJ to bounce Lacewell and Jim Garrett, that would be success enough.

 

[khiladi]

Word is, that's what's hurt him in interviews. Owners don't seem to care for that too much. And as far as how he would do as HC, there's really no way to know if he'd be better than Garrett. He's had more success as a coordinator, but that doesn't mean anything. A lot of really unsuccessful HC's have been better coordinators. Sure, only one to find out, but you just don't know if he'd be better or not. And if he did go tell Jerry to, you know, or quit, what good does that do? W could say, "well, he couldn't be any worse than Garrett." Well, yeah he could, and even if he isn't, that's not what we're going for. If Garrett's a 3, and Zimmer's a 4, it's still not good.

If Garrett is fired and we hire Zimmer, okay. I'd take it as a positive. Just don't if he'd be my first choice.

He's been coaching a hell of a lot more than Garrett ever did before he was offered the most prestigious HC job in all of sports.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Uh, because he took two teams as a HC to the Super Bowl, one with an average QB. If it weren't for the refs, he'd be the only HC I think, to win a SB with two different teams. You want to maximize Romo, Holmgren would be a perfect fit.

And what are the odds of him taking a 3rd? How many coaches have done that? Its nearly impossible. I want a hungry coach. I don't want a coach that's already been there. I want someoen who is hungry and who has something to coach for. Holgremn is rich and his legacy is cemented. He has nothing to coach for. He'd be coaching just to tickle his fancy......Parcells with the Cowboys, Joe Gibbs coming back, Shanahan with the Deadskins......hire new blood.

 

[wileedog]

I want a hungry coach..

Hunger shmunger, I want someone who knows what they are doing. I'm tired of Amateur Hour around here

And you need someone with enough clout who can push back on Jerry when he decides he's just itching to unload another couple of draft picks for a WR..

 

[perrykemp]

And what are the odds of him taking a 3rd? How many coaches have done that? Its nearly impossible. I want a hungry coach. I don't want a coach that's already been there. I want someoen who is hungry and who has something to coach for. Holgremn is rich and his legacy is cemented. He has nothing to coach for. He'd be coaching just to tickle his fancy......Parcells with the Cowboys, Joe Gibbs coming back, Shanahan with the Deadskins......hire new blood.

Solid points.

 

[alicetooljam]

Can't understand why Saban's name keeps coming up. His tenure with the Dolphins was a complete disaster he couldn't handle the media or the pressure of coaching in the NFL. He's a great college coach and college is where he'll stay.

The same couldve been said about Belichick as far as first stint failures, and couldve been said about Pete Carroll. I cant stand all 3, but only because all they do is win... :/

 

[KJJ]

The same couldve been said about Belichick as far as first stint failures, and couldve been said about Pete Carroll. I cant stand all 3, but only because all they do is win... :/

What happened with Belichick in Cleveland and with Saban in Miami aren't even comparable. Saban only lasted 2 seasons in Miami because he couldn't handle the pressure of coaching in the NFL and took off for Alabama after saying he wasn't interested in the Alabama job. He has no interest in coming back to the NFL and if he did no one would be stupid enough to hire him after what he pulled in Miami. Belichick didn't abandon the Browns he got fired. He had Cleveland going in the right direction in 94 with an 11-5 record but the team fell apart the next season after announcing they were moving to Baltimore.

Hard for any coach to keep things together after a team announces they're moving to another city. Saban paired with Jerry would be the biggest joke the NFL has seen in years and the media would be all over it. Just imagine what they're working relationship would be like. LOL Jerry and Saban would be the Barnum and Bailey of the biggest circus in the NFL.

 

[KJJ]

As for Pete Carroll he didn't abandon either one of the NFL teams he coached he got fired. What Saban and Bobby Petrino pulled are inexcusable especially for coaches who've been around as long as they have. The Cowboys are dysfunctional as it is.

 

[Risen Star]

Saban would be my last choice.

Eh. Seems like a couple of guys with an axe to grind.

I worship at the altar of Parcells. So a miserable, player unfriendly, taskmaster head coach doesn't bother me.

I have no idea how he'd do the 2nd time around but I'd give him the opportunity.

 

[Risen Star]

Solid points.

Obvious points. The problem is we're talking about working with Jerry. That "new blood" won't be respected. So he won't have any power here. That's the point of Holmgren. He would at least command respect and produce less Jerry.

 

[Beast_from_East]

He got Matt Freaking Hasselbeck to a Superbowl -- and probably would've won it if not for the worst officiating I've ever seen -- but we're too good to take him here?

The problem with the "young guy" is that it has to be a person with cred in the league or Jerry will probably just run all over him. Maybe Gruden is the rare guy in the middle who's experienced enough to have had some success but is still young enough to have plenty of energy, but I think Holmgren's been a better coach.

And actually, his lack of success as a GM would probably work fine here because Jerry isn't dismantling the front office anyway. And I think our drafting lately has been mostly fine anyway. Not great, but not terrible either. There is talent on this team.

If we can't get a big name like him, I still think a Zimmer-Kubiak combo would be very good, though, and certainly better than Garrett.

Good post......................he may be an older retread coach, but he is light years better than what we have now with Opie on the sidelines.

 

[Beast_from_East]

At this point, we're just laying the foundation that the NFCE was easy to win this year, and that we have to fire the coach if we don't win it. We're not seriously debating hiring Mike Holmgren at this point in the offseason, yet.

I am just going off what the beat writers are saying............Nick Eatman says he is gone if we lose the division............Broaddus yesterday on Talking Cowboys said Garrett is coaching for his job these last 3 games and Rowan and Mickey (who left to go interview Stephen Jones and then returned) both sat there nodding their heads up and down in agreement. Even on Cowboy's break, Derrick and the crew all said that Jerry's comment that Garrett is safe is all BS and if he doesnt win the division he is gone.

That is like 7 guys that cover the Cowboys that are all saying this, so this is not something I am just making up...............I think these guys who do their shows from inside Valley Ranch might know more about the situation than you, no offense.

 

[TTexasTT]

No there is no chance.

I think its time for some of you guys to accept the fact that JG will be here for atleast two more years. Probably longer.

Also, if youre looking for anothing GM for this team that isnt a Jones, and youre over 50 years old... It wont happen in this life.

 

[khiladi]

And what are the odds of him taking a 3rd? How many coaches have done that? Its nearly impossible. I want a hungry coach. I don't want a coach that's already been there. I want someoen who is hungry and who has something to coach for. Holgremn is rich and his legacy is cemented. He has nothing to coach for. He'd be coaching just to tickle his fancy......Parcells with the Cowboys, Joe Gibbs coming back, Shanahan with the Deadskins......hire new blood.

He'd coach with what he knows and what he knows will work well with Romo. The guy was running five WR sets on a regular with Green Bay. It's the same system that has allowed great QBs like Aaron Rodgers to be even moe ridiculous. We move the ball when we go spread and no better coach to get Romo in the bootleg. He's been enough away from this game to be hungry again.

For Parcells, he was running the same old system that was out-dated. Shanny, he was never a 'great' coach in the first place. Joe Gibbs was out way too long as well. The difference is, what Holmgren runs is even more relevant now as a general rule in the NFL.