Anybody else still wishing we would have taken a RB in 3rd round?

[Dodger12]

broke some tackles and fell forward......

Is this fan speak for "he tripped?"

 

[Corso]

I see a port, her name is Katie !!

It's funny- my favorite rum is Kraken.
No joke.

 

[AzorAhai]

Is this fan speak for "he tripped?"

It means when he was tackled he kept going forward instead of going down immediately or backwards, so no it's not "fan speak".

 

[Derinyar]

I don't think there was any back to take in the 1st round when we picked, unless we wanted to over draft a player. I don't think there was any choice that was reasonable in round 2 other then Gregory. In the 3rd round I'm guessing most of, if not all, the RBs they valued there had been selected and that the OT pool had also been blown up some so they took the best tackle on the board for them. I don't think I trade up for anyone in the 3rd because that's what has gotten us in trouble more often then not. Sure if they knew they were going to get another OLine with some potential as a UDFA they might have gone a different way, but then again I don't think anyone thinks Collins has any real ability to play LT in the NFL so it might not have changed a damned thing.

After week 1 we had a running attack that wasn't great, but wasn't horrible. The running game was basically suspended for most of the second half because we got behind quick with bad plays by our passing game and basically had to throw for the bulk of the second half. If we had the two score lead we should have had I think we have Randle over 100 and probably McFadden around 50+ because we have another 10+ carries, at minimum, chewing out clock. Instead we had passing yards to try and get us back in the game.

 

[Dodger12]

It means when he was tackled he kept going forward instead of going down immediately or backwards, so no it's not "fan speak".

He was arm tackled, tripped up and went down. I didn't see him knock anyone forward after contact.

 

[coult44]

Still think that decision might come back to bite us. Why didn't we take Matt Jones or Karlos Williams, or try to trade up and take Telvin Coleman? I'll admit not many knew how good Karlos Williams might be, but everyone was aware of the talent of Jones and Coleman.

Trading up for Coleman might've cost our 4th round pick, but I'd trade Green and Wilson for Coleman.

C-MiKe is better than any running back we could've drafted...

 

[AzorAhai]

He was arm tackled, tripped up and went down. I didn't see him knock anyone forward after contact.

Go read @texbumthelife breakdown of every Randle run. Whether you remember it or not, he wasn't going down as easy as you want to believe or are trying to make it seem.
http://cowboyszone.com/threads/joseph-randle-coaches-film-running-review.331053/

 

[Wood]

I am more wishing the Cowboys franchised Dez.

 

[iceberg]

There is always going to be second guessing when it comes to the draft. I do know that 31 other teams wished they would have drafted Randy Gregory before the Cowboys did. Some with their 1st rd pick and others with their 2nd rd pick.

I don't know how anyone can really look back and criticize the Cowboys when they come out with Byron Jones, Gregory, Wilson, Russell, and Swaim as good picks and a to-be-determined with Green, Nzeocha, and Gibson. That is just a solid draft. Throw in adding former second round pick RB Michael and I can't think of any reason to look back for regrets.

The Cowboys have had 3 years of solid draft classes. I can't think of a team that has drafted better than the Cowboys these 3 past years.

Cause closet coaches went into the draft with a check box by RUNNING BACK and they never got to check that box off.

They be mad and stuff.

Still.

 

[Dodger12]

Go read @texbumthelife breakdown of every Randle run. Whether you remember it or not, he wasn't going down as easy as you want to believe or are trying to make it seem.
http://cowboyszone.com/threads/joseph-randle-coaches-film-running-review.331053/

I read it. Even Tex points out the arm tackles and yards left on the field. A RB needs balance and I understand no one can make something out of nothing. But too many arm tackles where he went down too easily when he had some daylight in front of him. He left yards on the field for sure that others may have taken advantage of.

 

[vicjagger]

This: http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2015...b-draft-class-ended-up-benefiting-the-cowboys

 

[AzorAhai]

I read it. Even Tex points out the arm tackles and yards left on the field. A RB needs balance and I understand no one can make something out of nothing. But too many arm tackles where he went down too easily when he had some daylight in front of him. He left yards on the field for sure that others may have taken advantage of.

Every RB leaves yards on the field. Do you really think he's supposed to break tackles every time he touches the ball?

 

[mattjames2010]

Every RB leaves yards on the field. Do you really think he's supposed to break tackles every time he touches the ball?

Really? Because most members here acted like Murray was the only one.

And I don't think anyone is saying Randle needs to break tackles on every run, but it's not encouraging to see him arm tackled on nearly every run either.

 

[dallasdave]

It's funny- my favorite rum is Kraken.
No joke.

I will have to try some!!

 

[gimmesix]

I'm going to wait until later before I get concerned. I wish we would have taken a running back, but we didn't. We'll see if the sum of our parts is better than the whole - or however that saying goes.

I agree. It's too late for wishes to come true for those of us who thought we should draft a running back, so let's wait and see if we have any reason to be concerned. I'm not paying attention to what the guys we didn't draft are doing because it's just an exercise in futility.

I think we can continue to analyze how the guys we have are doing and if they prove that they cannot get the job done, hopefully Dallas will find a way to address it before the trade deadline.

 

[Macnalty]

I don't think either DMac or Randle are adequate replacements for Murray, not that any of them or a draft pick can repeat what Murray did last season but at least keep our running respectable. We actually have folks defending our running game in another thread and we didn't even crack 100 yards on the ground. But hey, Randle had a 4.1 YPC average so all is OK. Thank Romo. Once again, he hides all this team's flaws so we can look at some all-22 and see the silver lining from our running game with a winning slant.

The bigger question is Green and where he was picked. We spent a 3rd round pick on a guy who won't see the field because he's injured. That's mind boggling. His 2nd year will be spent acclimating himself to the game and we may not see what he has until year 3. That's just not acceptable (from a philosophical standpoint) from a 3rd round pick.

Green was destined to IR as soon as Collins was signed, IMO it was so no one could touch our embarrassment of riches in the Oline and we could sort out what we have in house. I also believe they thought they had a tackle in Collins before the beginning of training camp. No problem with the Green pick he has talent you can slam him all you want with your 20/20 hindsight, when he gets right/healed that tackle spot competition will be almost tangible.
These drafts are not gauged on how close to 100% or 6/6 you pick, it is closer to three starters out of six is hitting it out of the ball park and doing a little dance. IMO you are wasting your energy steaming on that third rd pick which could still be a asset.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

GMs also have to think 2-3 years down the road, not just the present. I think the OT Green pick in the 3rd was not for this year but next and the following year. Most OTs take time to get stronger and learn the position. In my opinion, Green was picked to step in when Free is possibly done in a year or two from now. It was hoped that he would learn the position as a swing tackle and not be needed immediately.

Right now, Green is learning technique from film and building strength in the gym. He is also an insurance policy come week 6. If someone gets injured, and I hope no OT gets injured, he could be an option if he is ready.

 

[Dodger12]

Every RB leaves yards on the field. Do you really think he's supposed to break tackles every time he touches the ball?

Of course not. I just don't expect him to hit a hole and get arm tackled. I'm with you and you're reasonable. We'll see more as the season progresses, especially tomorrow, and I hope he improves.

 

[Dodger12]

Green was destined to IR as soon as Collins was signed, IMO it was so no one could touch our embarrassment of riches in the Oline and we could sort out what we have in house. I also believe they thought they had a tackle in Collins before the beginning of training camp. No problem with the Green pick he has talent you can slam him all you want with your 20/20 hindsight, when he gets right/healed that tackle spot competition will be almost tangible.
These drafts are not gauged on how close to 100% or 6/6 you pick, it is closer to three starters out of six is hitting it out of the ball park and doing a little dance. IMO you are wasting your energy steaming on that third rd pick which could still be a asset.

There will be other swing tackles in next years draft. I just don't see the value in using a 3rd round pick on a guy that needed surgery and goes on IR. Now granted, no one knew we'd get Collins so I get picking the position. I just don't get picking a guy that is injured and can't contribute. There's nothing 20/20 about it.

 

[AzorAhai]

Of course not. I just don't expect him to hit a hole and get arm tackled. I'm with you and you're reasonable. We'll see more as the season progresses, especially tomorrow, and I hope he improves.

Agreed. Mostly everyone has formed their opinions on what to expect from Randle. In the end only time will tell what he actually is.