Anybody else still wishing we would have taken a RB in 3rd round?

[CowboyRoy]

I don't like the Chaz green pick. I would've went another route but idk about RB. The one we would've taken is Jay Ajayi who is now on IR. Karlos Williams isn't all that IMO.

I definitely agree with the Jay Ajayi pick.

 

[mattjames2010]

Tevin Coleman had 20 carries for 80 yards for....you guessed it....4.0 ypc. No receptions.

Randle had 16 for 65 yds or 4.0 ypc with 3 catches for 42 more yards. He gave the team 107 yards on 19 touches.

I was in the draft chat when the Commanders took Matt Jones and most were either asking "who?" or laughing at the reach. Now we're lamenting it after 1 game? And Karlos Williams? There was literally no one clamoring for him pre/post draft. If you want to nag about not having Coleman, then hate Gregory because thats who we would have had to pass up to get him. The Cowboys were not trading a 3rd and another 2nd to trade up and go get a RB. They could have just traded for AP at that price tag.

This is dumb. Two RBs behind different lines going up against different defenses.

Comparing stat lines like that is really absurd. Watch the game, Coleman looks like a starting NFL RB, Randle looks like exactly what we all said he was; a change of pace back. Next thing you know, everyone here will be trying to claim Felix Jones was a starting caliber RB because he had a 4.7 YPC career average.

 

[RS12]

Anybody else still wishing we would have taken a RB in 3rd round?

Let ya know after I see Chaz Green play.

 

[AzorAhai]

This is dumb. Two RBs behind different lines going up against different defenses.

Comparing stat lines like that is really absurd. Watch the game, Coleman looks like a starting NFL RB, Randle looks like exactly what we all said he was; a change of pace back. Next thing you know, everyone here will be trying to claim Felix Jones was a starting caliber RB because he had a 4.7 YPC career average.

Randle looked fine. If you can't compare stats, what exactly are you supposed to use as a reference? You say watch the game, yet watching the game showed Randle had very few big lanes, broke some tackles and fell forward. Declaring Randle a change of pace back after 1 game is whats absurd.

 

[mattjames2010]

Randle looked fine. If you can't compare stats, what exactly are you supposed to use as a reference? You say watch the game, yet watching the game showed Randle had very few big lanes, broke some tackles and fell forward. Declaring Randle a change of pace back after 1 game is whats absurd.

I'm declaring Randle a change of pace back after seeing him be a starter in 2013, excelling in the change of pace back role in 2014, and looking average last Sunday. Nearly all of us here watched the game, Randle looked average. He's slow to the hole and gets taken down far easier than most starting RBs in this league. Felix Jones even had games here and there where he looked good, didn't change the fact he wasn't suited to be a starter.

Coleman has the speed and the power to be a starting RB in this league.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Randle looked fine. If you can't compare stats, what exactly are you supposed to use as a reference? You say watch the game, yet watching the game showed Randle had very few big lanes, broke some tackles and fell forward. Declaring Randle a change of pace back after 1 game is whats absurd.

LOL Randle has always been a change of pace back since coming into the league. What he's not is a lead back. It was obviously evident that Randle is not made to be the lead back from the Giants game.

Coleman is a much more talented back than Randle. He is faster, stronger and looks more ready to be a workhorse for Atlanta. I wish we would have taken him. He would fit our system pretty well. He's like Murray with speed.

 

[AzorAhai]

LOL Randle has always been a change of pace back since coming into the league. What he's not is a lead back. It was obviously evident that Randle is not made to be the lead back from the Giants game.

Coleman is a much more talented back than Randle. He is faster, stronger and looks more ready to be a workhorse for Atlanta. I wish we would have taken him. He would fit our system pretty well. He's like Murray with speed.

Randle was a change of pace back because Murray was the starter. In case you missed the news flash, just about every "Elite" RB looked average or worse week 1. Randle looked fine.

 

[DFWJC]

I definitely agree with the Jay Ajayi pick.

Yeah...if you go back to the old predraft threads, it's pretty astounding.
There were people around here wanting us to take Ajayi in the 2nd round and that he'd be steal there and huge steal if we was there in the 3rd. One or two even said take him in the late 1st.

 

[Supercowboy1986]

LOL Randle has always been a change of pace back since coming into the league. What he's not is a lead back. It was obviously evident that Randle is not made to be the lead back from the Giants game.

Coleman is a much more talented back than Randle. He is faster, stronger and looks more ready to be a workhorse for Atlanta. I wish we would have taken him. He would fit our system pretty well. He's like Murray with speed.

How many teams have you coached boss?

 

[Dale]

I do wish we had a more talented option in the backfield, be it an acquisition in free agency or the draft. I think Randle is an OK NFL player best served as a backup, and I think McFadden's history shows him to be a subpar-to-average NFL player. He has exceptional athleticism and is capable of the "wow!" play every so often, but the rest of his work leaves a lot to be desired.

I'm clinging to Michael as my hope for a bigger-time talent, but realistically don't anticipate him being markedly better.

 

[ConstantReboot]

Randle was a change of pace back because Murray was the starter. In case you missed the news flash, just about every "Elite" RB looked average or worse week 1. Randle looked fine.

Randle was a change of pace back because thats what he is - he is a change of pace back. There is reasons why they didn't use him more last year except for mop up duty. I'm not sold on him being a back that can handle the lead role like Murray. It was quite evident in the Giants game that he might not fit the bill as the main back.

As for comment of elite runningbacks looking average - I don't think that a proper comparison. Randle looked average running behind our dominant oline. While Coleman has to run behind a less than stellar oline in Atlanta. Still both had similar yards average rushing. Put Coleman behind our oline and I can almost assure you that he will do better than Randle. He is a faster version of Murray.

Some regarded him as the 2nd best running back in the draft after Gurley. I agree with that assessment.

 

[ConstantReboot]

How many teams have you coached boss?

How many teams have you coached?

 

[ccb04]

I was arguably the biggest Coleman homer on the board...and was also a big fan of Cobb.

A guy I wouldn't have minded seeing them get their hands on in the 3rd rd. (though he went early), was WR/PR/KR Tyler Lockett. Guy looks like a beast on ST's already, returning a punt for a TD in his regular season debut...and he also had 2 returns (1 punt & 1 kickoff) for TD's in the preseason. Liked Ty Montgomery as a possibility to replace Harris as well...but simply liked Lockett more overall.

That said, I think they had at least swing OT in mind with Green after losing Parnell...and they've already went though 2-3 guys to try and find a suitable replacement at that spot. If Green develops into the long-term swing OT or starting RT with the ability to switch to the left side in a pinch, then it was a worthwhile pick (especially when factoring in the trade for C-Mike). Of course, only time will tell.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

There is always going to be second guessing when it comes to the draft. I do know that 31 other teams wished they would have drafted Randy Gregory before the Cowboys did. Some with their 1st rd pick and others with their 2nd rd pick.

I don't know how anyone can really look back and criticize the Cowboys when they come out with Byron Jones, Gregory, Wilson, Russell, and Swaim as good picks and a to-be-determined with Green, Nzeocha, and Gibson. That is just a solid draft. Throw in adding former second round pick RB Michael and I can't think of any reason to look back for regrets.

The Cowboys have had 3 years of solid draft classes. I can't think of a team that has drafted better than the Cowboys these 3 past years.

 

[AzorAhai]

Randle was a change of pace back because thats what he is - he is a change of pace back. There is reasons why they didn't use him more last year except for mop up duty. I'm not sold on him being a back that can handle the lead role like Murray. It was quite evident in the Giants game that he might not fit the bill as the main back.

As for comment of elite runningbacks looking average - I don't think that a proper comparison. Randle looked average running behind our dominant oline. While Coleman has to run behind a less than stellar oline in Atlanta. Still both had similar yards average rushing. Put Coleman behind our oline and I can almost assure you that he will do better than Randle. He is a faster version of Murray.

Some regarded him as the 2nd best running back in the draft after Gurley. I agree with that assessment.

That dominant OL didn't open up many holes in this past game like they did last season. You can't snapshot what a RB is off one or 2 starts. I watched the Atlanta game and the running lanes were basically even for Randle and Coleman. There's no point in even debating this. Nobody is going to change their opinions on Randle unless/until he proves them wrong.

 

[ConstantReboot]

That dominant OL didn't open up many holes in this past game like they did last season. You can't snapshot what a RB is off one or 2 starts. I watched the Atlanta game and the running lanes were basically even for Randle and Coleman. There's no point in even debating this. Nobody is going to change their opinions on Randle unless/until he proves them wrong.

The holes were there for Randle. If there were no holes then maybe he should try and break a few tackles and wiggle for a few yards like Murray. Oh wait....he's not Murray and can't do that. Thus the reason why is nothing more than a change of pace back.

 

[gmoney112]

No. Chaz Green has the potential to be a legitimate RT in this league and could be a swing tackle early in his career.

I think it's pretty obvious we lack any sort of true depth at Tackle, which i place much higher priority on than RB.

 

[_sturt_]

Still think that decision might come back to bite us. Why didn't we take Matt Jones or Karlos Williams, or try to trade up and take Telvin Coleman? I'll admit not many knew how good Karlos Williams might be, but everyone was aware of the talent of Jones and Coleman.

Trading up for Coleman might've cost our 4th round pick, but I'd trade Green and Wilson for Coleman.

I'm not one to second-guess decison-makers once they've won my confidence, and since Will McClay has a substantial voice in the war room, I'm content that the decision was a sound one. Would I hop in a time machine and go back now, knowing what we know? Maybe, but not necessarily... before going back, I'd want to go forward two years to make the decision.

 

[AzorAhai]

The holes were there for Randle. If there were no holes then maybe he should try and break a few tackles and wiggle for a few yards like Murray. Oh wait....he's not Murray and can't do that. Thus the reason why is nothing more than a change of pace back.

Like I said, no reason to debate this. I knew where you stood before even replying.

 

[Hardline]

The current RBs are just holding down the fort until Ezekiel Elliott or Derrick Henry get here.