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dargonking999

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skinsngibbs4life said:
But we have more depth than you do. It is just as much of a problem for you if one of your WR's go down as if one of ours goes down because we have more choices on our roster to replace with.



Ladell Betts? Rock Cartwright? Mike Sellers? The two rookies that we drafted last year?

umm again what have they done to show they can step in and be productive.
 

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dargonking999 said:
No i didnt say Portis is injury prone, i said if he goes down they dontr have some one to replace them with.

I never siad it wouldnt hurt us

i siad IT WOULD NOT HURT AS MUCH. now hopefully you can read that

If we run Crayton and Owens and Glenn, and Copper then owens are glenn goes down, that relaly affects the offense, because no instead of two stud WR you basically get a number 2 and some 3 and 4 starting, not exactly effective.

Its your fault when you misread my post.

It wouldnt hurt as much because you dont really have a good RB. :D
So you can just throw in any RB and still be the same, is that what your saying?
 

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dargonking999 said:
No i didnt say Portis is injury prone, i said if he goes down they dontr have some one to replace them with.

I never siad it wouldnt hurt us

i siad IT WOULD NOT HURT AS MUCH. now hopefully you can read that

If we run Crayton and Owens and Glenn, and Copper then owens are glenn goes down, that relaly affects the offense, because no instead of two stud WR you basically get a number 2 and some 3 and 4 starting, not exactly effective.

Its your fault when you misread my post.

You said the Commanders are screwed if their QB goes down, their RB goes down, or a WR goes down.

My point was, we are too, if Bledsoe or Owens goes (and Glenn somewhat).

You said we weren't bec. we don't run 3 WR or 4 WR sets.

Yet, we brought in Owens to help us offensively. We'd be taking a huge step backwards using Crayton instead of Owens. Or Romo instead of Bledsoe. So knocking the Commanders bec. of losing Brunell, Portis, or Moss is stupid bec. it would affect us a great deal if we lost our starters. Every team would. Yet, you only seem to think it would hurt the Commanders and used that as a way to "knock" them.
 

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dargonking999 said:
Really, i dont even know your backup RB

everyone knows the two behind JJ, if not they know at least one

you should know our backup runningback. Or maybe if you don't, you should ask Terrance Newman, because im sure he remembers his name after he got knocked out by him last year
 

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skinsngibbs4life said:
you should know our backup runningback. Or maybe if you don't, you should ask Terrance Newman, because im sure he remembers his name after he got knocked out by him last year

Which is relevant to the conversation, how?

Avoid the dargonking route.
 

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And you should be ashamed of yourselvs for making Hambone looks so good in the 2003 games. He looked like an ALL PRO in those two games.
 

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I have been following this post, and yes I have read everyone of them... This is my opinion...

Moss hasn't proved, yet, that he can consistently be considered one of the elite receivers in the NFL. He has only had one year with the Commanders, but here is a point that all parties are forgetting. Opponents had no idea what to expect from their offense. And for all you stat guys who like to see proof of this, Moss had 4 of his best 5 games of the REGULAR season in the first 6 games of the season. After that he was average as a #1 reciever. When teams had more time and tape to adjust to their revamped offense, he "came back down to earth". He caught 4 Tds in the last 10 games... Only problem is that 3 of them came in a blowout of the Giants... So he caught TD's in 2 of the last 10 games. He had stretches of 3 and 4 consecutive games without a TD. Owens, since 2001, which is as far as the stats on NFL.com would allow me to look, has never had 3 consecutive games without a TD.

As far as T.O. and the Cowboys, I would definately expect a similarly fast start, and a lull in the middle of the season, with an average finish. This is the NFL, and teams will find a way to make you adjust your offense. Just ask the Commanders from last year.

The proof will be in the pudding this year for Moss. If he is an "elite" reciever, he will have to prove it this year.... As for now, I think T.O. is much better, and has been for a longer period of time...
 

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dargonking999 said:
No i didnt say Portis is injury prone, i said if he goes down they dontr have some one to replace them with.

I never siad it wouldnt hurt us

i siad IT WOULD NOT HURT AS MUCH. now hopefully you can read that

If we run Crayton and Owens and Glenn, and Copper then owens are glenn goes down, that relaly affects the offense, because no instead of two stud WR you basically get a number 2 and some 3 and 4 starting, not exactly effective.

Its your fault when you misread my post.

Ladell Betts has a career average of 4 yards per carry. He's played admirably when Portis has been injured. There would be a drop off in ability, but the Skins definitely have a good runner in the wings. Rock Cartwright has also been a good backup to insert as a starter for a couple of games.
 

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cowboywho? said:
That's one game, so he had 127 yards.

Rock Cartwright had a hundred yards game too. and that with Portis getting his hundred too.
And 2 scores.

Wasn't your criteria as "starter?"

He maintained Barber had "started and produced." Then you asked for backup of that claim. Did I not just give it to you? Do you see Jones in those stats?

If that isn't what you were seeking then ask what you want. Don't beat around the bush and play spin control with me. I haven't got the patience to hold your hand through every discussion.
 

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And 2 scores.

Wasn't your criteria as "starter?"

He maintained Barber had "started and produced." Then you asked for backup of that claim. Did I not just give it to you? Do you see Jones in those stats?

If that isn't what you were seeking then ask what you want. Don't beat around the bush and play spin control with me. I haven't got the patience to hold your hand through every discussion.

Sorry if you misread my post from before.
But i didnt asked for stats of one preticular game in which he started.
But asked for the stats that prove that your backup is better then ours. and that you guys woulndt be slowed down if JJ goes down with unjury.
 

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AmericasTeam31 said:
After that he was average as a #1 reciever. When teams had more time and tape to adjust to their revamped offense, he "came back down to earth". He caught 4 Tds in the last 10 games... Only problem is that 3 of them came in a blowout of the Giants... So he caught TD's in 2 of the last 10 games. He had stretches of 3 and 4 consecutive games without a TD.

You could also say that starting the team's 4th or 5th reciever on the depth chart, or even a practice squad reciever for a game will make it more difficult to be open, when earlier in the season, David Patten was a much better threat.

Gibbs went to a 1 WR/2 TE/H-Back formation alot last season because it was more productive to have Mike Sellers or Robert Royal on the field than Taylor Jacobs, who found it extremely difficult to even record a single reception in most games.
 
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