Anyone else still mad we didn't move up and get Vea or James?

[dallas72]

Rather not cry about who we didnt draft..Just support the ones we did....The draft is 90% luck...right team, right scheme, attitude, heart & drive

 

[DFWJC]

Vea
If you look at how the draft unfolded, it's pretty easy to see that Vea was our of the question.
To move ahead of Tampa (who took Vea) you'd have to have the planets align perfectly and have Miami decide that want to pass on stealing Minkah Fitzpatrick so we could give them our 1st and 2nd round picks. But if they did, the trade would be us giving up Vander Esch and Conner Williams for Vea..
IF (huge if) everything went perfectly. To move higher it would just get worse.

James
More reasonable possibl;ity but still not easy.
To get James, our target would probably need to be Oakland--who seemed up for dropping down that day because Miller was their target and was getting overdrafted a bit.
So if they decided to risk passing on Miller at 15 (after already risking it at 10 and having that risk pay off) and hoping he was there at 19, we could maybe get them to trade pick 15 and a 7th to us for picks 19 and 81.
So we trade LVE and Gallup for James and a 7th.
Again, BIG if that they would even drop down there.

 

[zrinkill]

Oh look a "they did not take my pet cat" thread.

 

[Rockport]

Will McClay wanted LVE. I trust him

 

[JustChip]

I'm still pretty upset we didn't move up into a better position in this draft

With 5 QB'S going in the first round this is a year moving up a few sports to get a dominate player would have been easy...

Remember we could of had Vea or James....

To me LVE is a project and not a dominant player​

Not upset at all. There's another thread on CZ about former 1st round players that haven't lived up to their billing/hype for whatever reason and would they be worth pursuing. The thing to recognize about that thread is there are zero guarantees even with blue-chip 1st round players. James and Vea, and LVE for that matter, may be talked about in 2 years as busts, maybe not. But the only insurance against a pick being a bust is more premium picks (1st to 3rd in my book, 4th if it's a mid to high 4th). Giving up a 3rd to get James means he better work out and definitely Vea would have to work out because of what it would've cost to get him.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I'm still pretty upset we didn't move up into a better position in this draft

With 5 QB'S going in the first round this is a year moving up a few sports to get a dominate player would have been easy...

Remember we could of had Vea or James....

To me LVE is a project and not a dominant player​

Not at all. Yes it would have been easy to do. But there is a cost associated with making those moves. I'd rather have the OL fixed right now with Williams wouldn't you?

Also your wrong about LVE. Very much so.

 

[Mobinvans]

Oh look a "they did not take my pet cat" thread.

Why even bother posting that?

 

[Mobinvans]

I wanted Edmunds.
Hope I'm wrong.

Edmunds will be a pro bowler

 

[Mobinvans]

Not at all. Yes it would have been easy to do. But there is a cost associated with making those moves. I'd rather have the OL fixed right now with Williams wouldn't you?

Also your wrong about LVE. Very much so.

How your right, I just dont see it but I would be ecstatic if he panned out

 

[dogunwo]

Oh look a "they did not take my pet cat" thread.

Yes, its gets annoying. I try to avoid most of them. But its difficult after the draft, a large majority of the threads are whining about the players we didn't get or whining about the players we did get.

 

[Silver Surfer]

I'm guessing you'd be OK with skipping the first night of next year's draft..... because that's what it would have cost you to get Vea.

 

[Mobinvans]

I'm guessing you'd be OK with skipping the first night of next year's draft..... because that's what it would have cost you to get Vea.

Vea is pretty special..

 

[dogunwo]

Vea is pretty special..

Maybe

 

[bayeslife]

At the time I was mad but I’m glad we didn’t trade any picks given the players we were able to get

 

[Mobinvans]

At the time I was mad but I’m glad we didn’t trade any picks given the players we were able to get

Maybe.... maybe 4 players make the team out of those 12 draft picks

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Nope. Linebacker was a crucial need. No doubt Vea in particular could have helped, but safety wasn't nearly as big a need as linebacker...

 

[CATCH17]

I'm not mad at all.

If we didn't draft Vander Esch then we would still have our biggest weakness on defense and that's a linebacker that can cover over the middle.


I don't think some of you guys understand how big of a hole that was for our team last year.

The middle of our pass defense was just an absolute joke and it was mostly linebackers that can't cover.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Nope. The only player I would have moved up for is Vea and that would simply have cost too much. Love the player but I'm good with what we did.

 

[CATCH17]

Edmunds will be a pro bowler

I like Edmunds but i'm not giving up Gallup for Edmunds when Vander Esch is just as talented.

 

[bayeslife]

Maybe.... maybe 4 players make the team out of those 12 draft picks

And maybe Vea turns out to be a bust so that’s not really an argument