Recap: Anyone still think Dak was wrong to turning down Cowboys Deal

[Swagger]

Tick tock. Time is almost up

 

[blueblood70]

Is this a serious post? Seriously, asking cause I feel like I am missing something here.

he must be related to Dak and has a claim to a lot of Daks new money coming..seems personal lol

 

[PAPPYDOG]

So when Dak re-signs are you going to disappear or are you just going to make a bunch fo posts about how your lie is ruined?

 

[PAPPYDOG]

I’m not squirming. I know he’s going to be extended in a weeks time.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I'll stay with the team. I've been here this long. Hopefully it will only be a 4 year contract.

Seems like that’s all your buddy Todd France wants.

 

[MoistMayonnaise]

Oh, I understand it. It is just not a good take

No, you don't understand.

 

[Northern_Cowboy]

What you're calling team friendly is year 4 it will cost the chiefs 42 mil to keep him and 41 mil in dead money if they release him, year 5 39 mil to keep him and 38 mil to release him, year 6 42 mil to keep him and 42 mil to release him, here comes the really big one year 7 60 mil to keep him and 60 mil in dead money if the release him. The other 3 years are the same thing saving nothing to keep him and costing the same amount in dead money if they release him. So just where is that team friendly contract. Team friendly contracts are contracts that if the team decides to move on it doesn't cost them the same to keep them in dead money.
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On a 500m+ contract over 12 years if you can get out of the deal after year 4 for approx 40m or 39m in year 5 then yes it is a team friendly deal and remember you mention many times 42m to keep and 42m to release etc except the 42m to keep also means he is playing that season for the 42m so it is not dead money. The year to look at for that deal is the one big year you mention which is 2026 the big decision will be made then. If they don't want to pay the 60m they will have to release Mahomes that year to avoid guaranteeing the roster bonus for 2027 (which is 50m the) so the dead cap money becomes the roster bonus for 2026 (38.5m) which was guaranteed in 2025. The Chiefs have all the leverage and very little risk in this deal. It doesn't really mean that much because barring a career ending injury or Mahomes just out of the blue losing all his ability, he will most likely play out this entire deal

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/07/06/the-preliminary-patrick-mahomes-contract-details/

https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nfl...tract-details-money/2g3luh9viwvy13n84cbe2k564

in the 2nd link there is a breakdown of what and how the guarantees work, his salary is not guaranteed every year only some years what is guaranteed every year is the roster bonus

 

[America's Cowboy]

Dak isn't half as good as Mahomes, do the math, hopefully Jerry figures this out too.

Do the math? Really? Maybe YOU should do the math before posting? The stats are all there. Sheesh.

 

[America's Cowboy]

I did not say Dak's 11 interceptions were bad, just that they were quite a bit worse than the two QBs you are saying he was better than last year. You seem pretty irrational when it comes to Prescott, so I'm going to bow out of this conversation. Anyone who thinks Prescott was better than Mahomes and Wilson last year is not in the right mind. Bringing Romo into a discussion that was not about him just shows how far gone you are on this topic.

Go get educated. Properly. Understand what QBR stands for and why. Then get back to me.

 

[Kwyn]

All I am saying is this; no one can predict the Future. Starters come from every rd of the Draft.

Your thought process is flawed because of the desperation it relies on.

Your thought process is flawed because Hope is not a strategy?

not trying to be flippant but banking on a magical mahomes fairy to drop the next league and super bowl MCP is not realistic

 

[Boomer]

None of us know enough details to draw such a conclusion but I'm sure it won't stop some folks.

Its his fault, sorry guys... I miss blaming him for something.

 

[gjkoeppen]

I’m not squirming. I know he’s going to be extended in a weeks time.

You need to share that crystal ball.
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[kskboys]

Its funny to read when you compare Mahomes to Dak. One has at least won a Super Bowl. You get paid for what you do and accomplish not what other people get. Yes there is a "position pay" but there is elite, tier 2 tier 3 and so forth.

I really thought this was obvious stuff.

 

[kskboys]

This is such a team friendly deal, it's unbelievable. I have a really hard time actually believing it.

Don't know why. Not everyone is eaten up w/ greed.

 

[gjkoeppen]

On a 500m+ contract over 12 years if you can get out of the deal after year 4 for approx 40m or 39m in year 5 then yes it is a team friendly deal and remember you mention many times 42m to keep and 42m to release etc except the 42m to keep also means he is playing that season for the 42m so it is not dead money. The year to look at for that deal is the one big year you mention which is 2026 the big decision will be made then. If they don't want to pay the 60m they will have to release Mahomes that year to avoid guaranteeing the roster bonus for 2027 (which is 50m the) so the dead cap money becomes the roster bonus for 2026 (38.5m) which was guaranteed in 2025. The Chiefs have all the leverage and very little risk in this deal. It doesn't really mean that much because barring a career ending injury or Mahomes just out of the blue losing all his ability, he will most likely play out this entire deal

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/07/06/the-preliminary-patrick-mahomes-contract-details/

https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nfl...tract-details-money/2g3luh9viwvy13n84cbe2k564

in the 2nd link there is a breakdown of what and how the guarantees work, his salary is not guaranteed every year only some years what is guaranteed every year is the roster bonus

First you proved that you don't know as much as you think you do when you said "many times 42m to keep and 42m to release etc except the 42m to keep also means he is playing that season for the 42m so it is not dead money.". Most people know that it's only counts as dead money if a player is released. Also I forgot to mention that there is a no trade clause so even if the chiefs could find someone willing to pay that kind of money for him the chiefs can't trade him. So the choices are pay him or release him. That means even if Mahomes is playing well but because of having to pay him and they lose other players because of that and are no longer able to get to the Super Bowl, they will have to decide on whether they want to continue to pay that money or go with a younger QB and save 40-50 mil. So the chiefs to start to get better players again may have to get rid of a good QB because of the ultra high cost for him. Once that 3rd day of the new league year is past they are on the hook. What team has stayed relevant for 12 years when one player is using up 20%-25% of their cap space?
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[Swagger]

Go get educated. Properly. Understand what QBR stands for and why. Then get back to me.

Haha you crack me up.

Why do you love Prescott so much? (serious question)

 

[Qcard]

Is this a serious post? Seriously, asking cause I feel like I am missing something here.

Yes, it is a serious post.

What clarification do you need?

I agree you are frequently amiss when it comes to Dak

 

[America's Cowboy]

Haha you crack me up.

Why do you love Prescott so much? (serious question)

Uhhh, because Dak is a top 5 franchise QB for my beloved Dallas Cowboys?

 

[Qcard]

All rookie team only compares rookies vs rookies. Hence the award being called " All rookie team". That doesn't put them on an equal level with players on the All-pro team, unless of course they actually make the All-Pro squad

So Daks All - Rookie 2016 award was based on comparison to other rookie QBs who started or based on every snap taken by a rookie QB in 2016...

See how stupid your opinion looks once extrapolated....

 

[Flamma]

It really is after the 1st 3 years his deal basically becomes a 2 year deal at a time. For every year they pick up the roster bonus they guarantee the next year...that's it, so if they pick up the roster bonus in 2024 then 2025 becomes guaranteed, so assumming he played in 2024 then they wanted to cut him for 2025 his roster bonus for 2025 would become the cap hit

It's a little more complicated than that. If they cut him in 2025 his dead cap is over 120 million. So they're obviously combining things here.