ANYONE still want Garrett to become HC?
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khiladi;2478854 said:
That pisses me off so much....that INT to TO is a perfect example of that.....
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What is even worse is this was a Steeler's defense that runs plenty of different blitz packages. How can you line up in such a haphazard way not taking time to have your QB pay special attention to trying to understand where the defenders are most likely going to come from? Over and over again, I'd see Gurode snapping the ball with one second left, while it looked like TR was still trying to get everybody lined up.Such a dis-organized mess this offense is in... What the hell is Garrett doing, I have no idea... It just looks so damn sloppy....DaBoys4Life;2478859 said:
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He is not even a good coordinator. No thanks right now.
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khiladi;2478873 said:
I agree, Tony needed time to set up blocking for the blitzes as opposed to looking for offsides. Especially with a rookie in there in Bennett and Choice blocking. It was more important to decide where the holes in their scheme were and hot route a WR to where the blitzer was coming from.
Witten, Choice or Bennett to where the LB were blitzing from and the closest WR in the vacinity from where Polomalu was coming from. This isn't anything a Princeton know it all who gets paid $3 million a year can't grasp. Tony also needs to learn that once he shrugs his shoulders one way, he needs to go the other. Not shrug them pause and then throw to that part of the field.
He's trying to get cute out there and he's tipping off defenses more than confusing them. Stuff like I saw leads me to feel this game is lined up sometimes. Tony knows better, every QB in the league knows better. He's running side to side where that outside LB blitz keeps coming from on both sides when he had lanes at 2 o'clock and 10 o'clock. Tony doesn't pick it up? His coaches don't pick that up? The O-lineman don't pick that up? Cmon!
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Sigh....In the off season when J.G was getting offers for a head coach in other places , this board lit up with people throwing a fit and calling for J.J's head if he didn't find a way to keep him here.
I don't recall reading any post at that time saying to let him go. I guess that is because we were 13 and 3 last year and division champs huh? The news flash is that he did not single handedly get us too 13 and 3 by himself. It took the entire coaching staff and the PLAYERS to acheive this.
This year we are two games behind last year already with five games lost so far, and everyone is calling for J.G's head now and dont want him as a HC.
The coaches can't do it alone. The PLAYERS have to do their part as well.
The injury bug has hurt us alot and made for alot of adjustments having to be made, But there is also alot of times that the players mess up...dont blame the coach for that. When Romo looks for the big plays all the time (and I love me some Romo) It could be an awesome play...or it could get intercepted. I think this loss was mostly on him and I hope he learns something from it.
As far as J.G. goes , I hope he is the the one in line for HC after wade is gone. I sure would not want to see him go some where else.
I don't recall reading any post at that time saying to let him go. I guess that is because we were 13 and 3 last year and division champs huh? The news flash is that he did not single handedly get us too 13 and 3 by himself. It took the entire coaching staff and the PLAYERS to acheive this.
This year we are two games behind last year already with five games lost so far, and everyone is calling for J.G's head now and dont want him as a HC.
The coaches can't do it alone. The PLAYERS have to do their part as well.
The injury bug has hurt us alot and made for alot of adjustments having to be made, But there is also alot of times that the players mess up...dont blame the coach for that. When Romo looks for the big plays all the time (and I love me some Romo) It could be an awesome play...or it could get intercepted. I think this loss was mostly on him and I hope he learns something from it.
As far as J.G. goes , I hope he is the the one in line for HC after wade is gone. I sure would not want to see him go some where else.
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ladiewolve;2478917 said:
I agree. Last week we played bad but overall with Romo at QB this team is avg 28 points a game that is not bad offense. Because someone disagrees with a call does not make it poor play calling I know we have fans who think they are great OC and if they were in charge they would do something different yet I have the feeling if these fans were in charge our offense would suck eggs
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I think Payton takes the "Go for the jugular" thing a little too far. He tends to outsmart himself and call ridiculous short yardage plays. It frustrates Saints fans, I know that. He also may not have any idea how to compile a complete team.Sasquatch;2478922 said:
I don't know - Payton is a little too "Mike Martz" for my tastes...
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he didn't improve our offense (romo did) and we have more playmakers, more investment in O.Doomsday101;2478924 said:
jason also has NO FEEL for playcalling, can't create mismatches. he's not creative. hasn't reeled in our turnover machine (romo). you could go on and on.
jason also show NO VISIBLE LEADERSHIP. he stands there with his baseball cap (dunce cap) on thinking he's outsmarting the world. lif he does why is Romo regressing, why can't we line up, why do we come 0.5 seconds 10x a game from delay-of-game. Jason doesn't even have a few "no brainer" 3rd or 4th & short plays.
yet the only positive is he took Tuna's offense and kept it as good, with more playmakers. :laugh2:
or some random 3-13 team wanted him to be a coach... the same NFL where 20% of the coaches are fired/recycled. One mans garbage (norv & wade) is another mans treasure (sd & dal oops!) :laugh2:
the only people jason regularly only outsmarts are some cowboy fans and jerry
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chinch;2478951 said:
Yes sir Mr. OC. you don't jack of what you are talking about. With Garrett running the offense we have scored points unlike the untra conservative BS we were dealing with before. Are mistake made sure but name me 1 OC who has not made a mistake?
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chinch;2478971 said:
And who are you? I don't have to convice myself this team score points and yet someone like you thinks you know how to run a offense? Give me a break you don't jack of what your talking about. You sit here and whine every damn day like you could run the team Let me guess your the Madden king right?
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ladiewolve;2478917 said:
Jason Garrett started to fade by the end of the year, last year. When TO went down, it exposed him as somebody way over his head. He failed to adjust to the Giants rush last year in the second-half. He didn't run any screens to counter-act the pressure. This year, when our offensive line was suffering, he also failed to take the pressure into account. Very rarely do you see Garrett calling roll outs for Romo, despite Romo having the ability to do so. Hell, Romo is one of the best throwing on the run.
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I'm the 8th to say so, but this is THE post I was looking for regarding clarity and peace of mind when I started this thread: because I DO think he's the next head coach. (Seems rather obvious anyway.....)
Originally Posted by superpunk
I think he might make a good head coach.
I think too many times people make the mistake that "Good Coordinator/position coach = Good head coach."
When Sparano was promoted to Offensive Coordinator, alot of people had a fit because Washington had just hired Saunders, and here we were promoting the coach of our WORST unit - the offensive line.
Not only was he a terrific offensive coordinator he has shown to be at least a pretty decent head coach so far.
So I don't think Garrett's performance as OC is relevant at all to whether or not he will be a good head coach. Much more important are things like;
Can he communicate clearly?
Is he a good motivator?
Is he respected?
Can he deal with the athlete's across the entire team, not just the offense? Can he relate to the players? Do they trust him?
Does he have a vision for the team going forward? Can he comunicate that vision to the people who need to know?
If things like that can be answered yes, then it doesn't really matter if Garrett even knows the plays. That's why you have coordinators and position coaches.
Originally Posted by superpunk
I think he might make a good head coach.
I think too many times people make the mistake that "Good Coordinator/position coach = Good head coach."
When Sparano was promoted to Offensive Coordinator, alot of people had a fit because Washington had just hired Saunders, and here we were promoting the coach of our WORST unit - the offensive line.
Not only was he a terrific offensive coordinator he has shown to be at least a pretty decent head coach so far.
So I don't think Garrett's performance as OC is relevant at all to whether or not he will be a good head coach. Much more important are things like;
Can he communicate clearly?
Is he a good motivator?
Is he respected?
Can he deal with the athlete's across the entire team, not just the offense? Can he relate to the players? Do they trust him?
Does he have a vision for the team going forward? Can he comunicate that vision to the people who need to know?
If things like that can be answered yes, then it doesn't really matter if Garrett even knows the plays. That's why you have coordinators and position coaches.