Are The Cowboys Super Bowl Contenders?

[firehawk350]

Except that I don't do that. If a Skins player is better, I have no issue with saying so.

Uh, no I wasn't.

No, that's why you're using them.

Hey I will thanks for the support.

Reading comprehension isn't your forte' is it?

It is? Damn, I need to market myself. Pay me and I'll tell you all you want to know.

Really? Whos better on the skins then? And I mean not obviously better like Portis. Who edges out a Cowboy's player by a thin margin that you don't mind admitting???

 

[Stash]

Really? Whos better on the skins then? And I mean not obviously better like Portis. Who edges out a Cowboy's player by a thin margin that you don't mind admitting???

I'd say that Chris Samuels is currently playing better than Flozell Adams - for starters.

 

[Rampage]

Really? Whos better on the skins then? And I mean not obviously better like Portis. Who edges out a Cowboy's player by a thin margin that you don't mind admitting???

santana moss is a little bit better that patrick crayton

 

[firehawk350]

wow, Cooley has 2 more 20 and 40+ yard pass receptions

you sure showed him

Well actually, I just refuted his inherently wrong point that Witten is a better downfield threat. I wasn't trying to prove that Cooley is THAT much better downfield. He is roughly equal but he's better at YAC.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Really? Whos better on the skins then? And I mean not obviously better like Portis. Who edges out a Cowboy's player by a thin margin that you don't mind admitting???

Chris Samuels over Flozell
Randy Thomas over Leonard Davis
Casey Rabach over Gurode

then Portis

hmmm, that's all I can think of

 

[firehawk350]

I'd say that Chris Samuels is currently playing better than Flozell Adams - for starters.

HAHAHAHA! I said not obviously better.

 

[firehawk350]

Chris Samuels over Flozell
Randy Thomas over Leonard Davis
Casey Rabach over Gurode

then Portis

hmmm, that's all I can think of

Our entire line is head and shoulders above yours. It's pretty obvious to anyone out there. How about Sellers vs. Hoyt or Polite?

 

[Stash]

HAHAHAHA! I said not obviously better.

Quit complainin'

It's not an easy question to answer!

 

[superpunk]

The mental faculty huh? Wow, maybe, just maybe, I don't think it's as easy as one number, no matter how well numbers go into that particular number. I mean, if it was, why have scouts?

Have you presented any evidence frm scouts that quantify Cooley as better than Witten?

If not, stop being irrelevent. If you can manage. You don't like the number, sally. I understand that. That doesn't make it wrong. Witten grades out better.

How is THAT number derived?

attempts / receptions. Witten grades out higher every year.

Oh, you mean including the Cooley's first season where he only started 6 games?

He started nine games. Even if you extrapolate it out, he doesn't equal Witten. You can't ignore Witten's finest year just to make Cooley look better, no matter how much you want to.

Quit spinning, and start posting any sort of evidence where Cooley grades out better than Witten.

 

[Rampage]

Our entire line is head and shoulders above yours. It's pretty obvious to anyone out there. How about Sellers vs. Hoyt or Polite?

yeah but your line is just protecting qb's who suck

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Our entire line is head and shoulders above yours. It's pretty obvious to anyone out there. How about Sellers vs. Hoyt or Polite?

your LG sucks, and your RT is average, only 3 of your starters are better than our's

Sellers over Hoyte then too, yay, you have a better FB!

 

[superpunk]

Well actually, I just refuted his inherently wrong point that Witten is a better downfield threat. I wasn't trying to prove that Cooley is THAT much better downfield. He is roughly equal but he's better at YAC.

No you didn't, Norman.

And you didn't even bother addressing the fact that roughly a third of Cooley's receptions come on passes thrown BEHIND the LOS.

Witten doesn't even approach that ratio.

Cooley's a fantastic H-back. Savor that made-up position. He's the finest in the league.

Yay, the Commanders have a player that's the best at something!

 

[baj1dallas]

IMO we are pretenders until we get a playoff win. Until then I don't see how you can call them Superbowl contenders.

 

[firehawk350]

No, I'm using your same criteria against you.

You're just apparently incapable of seeing that.

The one stat your hero has on Witten is TD's so for you, it's the deciding factor.

Therefore, by your own judgement:

Barber >>>>> Portis and Betts

No, my deciding factors are, in this order. Yards, TDs, YPC, intangibles.

Yards are roughly equals, with a very slight edge to Witten.
TDs are massively in Cooley's favor.
YPC this season goes to Cooley but overall, a very slight edge to Witten.
Intangibles, Cooley breaks more tackles and is a threat from anywhere on the field. Witten, as I'm told, has better hands.

So again, just because he has 50 more yards, I won't be stupid and put some check-mark on has more yards, he wins. Nor do I do that with TDs. It's just the difference between the two categories that seals it in my mind.

 

[Rampage]

No, my deciding factors are, in this order. Yards, TDs, YPC, intangibles.

Yards are roughly equals, with a very slight edge to Witten.
TDs are massively in Cooley's favor.
YPC this season goes to Cooley but overall, a very slight edge to Witten.
Intangibles, Cooley breaks more tackles and is a threat from anywhere on the field. Witten, as I'm told, has better hands.

So again, just because he has 50 more yards, I won't be stupid and put some check-mark on has more yards, he wins. Nor do I do that with TDs. It's just the difference between the two categories that seals it in my mind.

witten is a much better blocker and our passing game is lightyears ahead of yours

 

[Stash]

No, my deciding factors are, in this order. Yards, TDs, YPC, intangibles.

Yards are roughly equals, with a very slight edge to Witten.
TDs are massively in Cooley's favor.
YPC this season goes to Cooley but overall, a very slight edge to Witten.
Intangibles, Cooley breaks more tackles and is a threat from anywhere on the field. Witten, as I'm told, has better hands.

So again, just because he has 50 more yards, I won't be stupid and put some check-mark on has more yards, he wins. Nor do I do that with TDs. It's just the difference between the two categories that seals it in my mind.

There's the key to this entire 'argument'

 

[Bob Sacamano]

No, my deciding factors are, in this order. Yards, TDs, YPC, intangibles.

you forgot receptions, which is the #1 category

you don't have 1st downs either

Witten averages 708 yards a year, Cooley...607

 

[firehawk350]

your LG sucks, and your RT is average, only 3 of your starters are better than our's

Sellers over Hoyte then too, yay, you have a better FB!

Oh, Jon Jansen is average huh? How many sacks did he let up? And our LG is Todd Wade, who, in the only action he saw, didn't give up a single sack against Will Smith and paved the road for 211 yards from Betts. Try again.

 

[superpunk]

There's the key to this entire 'argument'

Poor guy's getting wore out.

I almost feel sorry for him, spinning as he is.

Almost.

 

[firehawk350]

No you didn't, Norman.

And you didn't even bother addressing the fact that roughly a third of Cooley's receptions come on passes thrown BEHIND the LOS.

Witten doesn't even approach that ratio.

Cooley's a fantastic H-back. Savor that made-up position. He's the finest in the league.

Yay, the Commanders have a player that's the best at something!

It's hard to teach 5 idiots screaming at once, sorry, I'm doing my best.