CFZ Are the Cowboys totally focused on building a championship team?

[Big_D]

You don't appear capable of using logic. You post makes no sense.

That's funny while you cling to this ridiculous notion that Jerry wants to win. If you still buy that after 3 decades that's on you!

 

[Diehardblues]

This reminds me of the flea making love to the elephant when a coconut falls on the elephant's head and she goes "uggggghhhhh" and the flea looks around and says "suffer, baby, suffer".

I’m one of those type who has marched on the Capitals which is usually futile efforts impacting little change if any but it brings attention to the issues.

And that is all my intentions are here is bringing more attention to the issues .

I don’t expect this to impact anyone but reaching some Cowboy fans and hopefully influencing their take and or at least providing more thought on the issues.

 

[CouchCoach]

I’m one of those type who has marched on the Capitals which is usually futile efforts impacting little change if any but it brings attention to the issues.

And that is all my intentions are here is bringing more attention to the issues .

I don’t expect this to impact anyone but reaching some Cowboy fans and hopefully influencing their take and or at least providing more thought on the issues.

The real question is just how much do people care?

Sure can't use our little gathering in here because we ain't normal. We look to them for football fulfillment when the normal fans are looking for football entertainment and a good time.

As many disappointed fans as we have in here, there are far more out there that consider this a good season. And the local media has always tried to make the fans look like they're a lot angrier and full of unrest than they are. They show up the next season full of renewed hope once again.

Booger knows that's who he's talking to when he spins, people wanting to be sold. There is not another pro sports franchise where the GM is constantly spinning the team at the fans but I do not consider Cowboys fans even close to the top in knowledge of the game. And they don't even care.

In all the years I lived in Dallas when I would ask people if they're a football fan. most of the time "I am a Cowboys fan" was the response I got. This team has more exclusive fans than any in the history of pro sports.

 

[Diehardblues]

The real question is just how much do people care?

Sure can't use our little gathering in here because we ain't normal. We look to them for football fulfillment when the normal fans are looking for football entertainment and a good time.

As many disappointed fans as we have in here, there are far more out there that consider this a good season. And the local media has always tried to make the fans look like they're a lot angrier and full of unrest than they are. They show up the next season full of renewed hope once again.

Booger knows that's who he's talking to when he spins, people wanting to be sold. There is not another pro sports franchise where the GM is constantly spinning the team at the fans but I do not consider Cowboys fans even close to the top in knowledge of the game. And they don't even care.

In all the years I lived in Dallas when I would ask people if they're a football fan. most of the time "I am a Cowboys fan" was the response I got. This team has more exclusive fans than any in the history of pro sports.

I’m not here to really measure who cares. It’s just a platform to speak out like any other opinions or grievances we have on the franchise .

I’ll leave it up to everyone to take it as they will. The idea here is to hopefully plant a seed or two.

To some fans he’s part of the entertainment. To me he’s the turd in the punch bowl. Ha

 

[DandyDon52]

That interview was in 2012.

I’ve provided the link to that interview for appropriate context which he didn’t refer to any certain span.

“I’ve always worked for myself and you can’t do that. You basically have to straighten that guy out in the mirror when you work for yourself. But certainly, if I’d had the discretion, I’ve done it with coaches and certainly I would have changed a general manager.”

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...says-he-would-have-fired-jerry-jones-the-g-m/

ok but clearly he wasn't referring to 2014 up as they had not occurred yet.
I think his opinion of himself as gm from 2014 up is different from 2012 back to 2000.
And he has been better, just not good enough.

 

[DallasEast]

No doubt but half empty stadiums would raise havoc on his pride and the media attacks could take a toll regardless if the financial fallout impacting him which it likely wouldn’t as you have suggested .

The fact the revenue is flowing at record pace provides him a warm blanket that the public and fans do support his ways despite whatever pushback he is receiving.

If those measures failed making him change his ways by stepping back or down then at least we the fans could find some comfort for the ridicule he’d receive for loss revenue as a result of his ways.

Keep thinking his mentality is bound to a huge ego commonly held by many people. The man’s a narcissist. He would deflect the reality you describe and blame it on anything but himself. Or lie to placate people who believe they have him right where they want him—just like Terry Bradshaw and Troy Aikman thought they had him after he claimed he would put Jimmy Johnson in the Ring of Honor. Lol.

Does not matter how often he demonstrates who he is in the public eye. Some people are transfixed in the self-belief he thinks just like they do.

 

[Diehardblues]

Keep thinking his mentality is bound to a huge ego commonly held by many people. The man’s a narcissist. He would deflect the reality you describe and blame it on anything but himself. Or lie to placate people who believe they have him right where they want him—just like Terry Bradshaw and Troy Aikman thought they had him after he claimed he would put Jimmy Johnson in the Ring of Honor. Lol.

Does not matter how often he demonstrates who he is in the public eye. Some people are transfixed in the self-belief he thinks just like they do.

No doubt but we should never take the medal off the pedal giving him any slack.

 

[Diehardblues]

ok but clearly he wasn't referring to 2014 up as they had not occurred yet.
I think his opinion of himself as gm from 2014 up is different from 2012 back to 2000.
And he has been better, just not good enough.

Im not sure his comments on his record was referencing any particular time period but rather a broad stroke or generalization that a GM with his record he’d of fired. That record already included 3 championships so I’m not sure what’s happened since 2014 would matter.

 

[DallasEast]

No doubt but we should never take the medal off the pedal giving him any slack.

Lol @ ‘slack’.

 

[Diehardblues]

Lol @ ‘slack’.

I suppose a better word could be used but the bigger point is just because our actions of speaking out may not have enough impact we shouldn’t let that deter us.

We have seen him address publicly some of these issues the fans and public have presented regardless if he eventually brushes them off taking no other action.

 

[Bullflop]

There was a time early-on when Jerry took over this team that he was intent upon winning a SB championship. With his split with Jimmy Johnson came the end of a great era and the beginning of a long, endless period of mediocre management. It continues today, with no end in sight.

 

[DallasEast]

I suppose a better word could be used but the bigger point is just because our actions of speaking out may not have enough impact we shouldn’t let that deter us.

We have seen him address publicly some of these issues the fans and public have presented regardless if he eventually brushes them off taking no other action.

On the overwhelming number of occasions, Jerry Jones has addressed topics via direct questioning by media members. He has visually demonstrated personal frustration during a few of those occasions, when the questioning directly related to his competency as a general manager (i.e. his inflexibility) or rational (I.e. a decades long refusal to induce Jimmy Johnson into the Ring of Honor).

Jones may have seriously addressed fans directly on relevant topics like PSLs in the past. It is exceeding doubtful he has been remotely and emotionally motivated by such issues for a long time.

During the past two decades, Jones has been ‘pressured’ by peer-to-peer confrontation. His type of personality is adverse into being cornered. However, it is the one realistic tactic of potentially coercing him into changing his day-to-day methodology also. Interested individuals could capitalize on pushing Jones between his ears but usually defer to attacking his wallet instead, which has been utterly useless, again, for a long time.

Of course, the emotional tactic has only made teeny-tiny advances with the man as well. It also fails from lack of organization and frequency. This is why I replied earlier with ‘lol at slack’.

The man experiences practically zero motivating influence. It is akin to laying a six-inch length of rope on a flat surface and resting his wrists atop it. Sure. There is slack. There is a <expletive> ton of slack. Another person can try tying a knot around his wrists but how much slack would exist afterwards? Answer: A lot. Why? Not enough rope exists for a viable knot.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

That's funny while you cling to this ridiculous notion that Jerry wants to win. If you still buy that after 3 decades that's on you!

I have zero doubt Jerry WANTS to win. You think he actually doesn't want to win a super bowl? That'snuts.


Now....does he KNOW how to build a winning team? He might think so...but obviously not.

 

[MyFairLady]

Jerry has lost the right to claim that he wants to win. He wants things to be fun and easy. He wants people to be happy and to be his friend. He wants to be popular and in the news. he wants the team to be talked about all the time. These are his priorities and his actions and choices prove this to be true.

 

[CouchCoach]

In the sales game, you learn the difference between wants and needs and wants is not action. The want must be developed into a need by the salesperson to get action for change. And that is what salespeople are asking prospects, change what you are doing.

In order for Booger to change, the need would have to be there and it is simply not. The need for ego gratification is stronger than the need for change. He must prove himself right.

While he boasts about those 3 rings, down deep inside he knows what the entire coaching staff knew at that time, those were really not his rings. He was merely the check signer.

Instead of taking pride in hiring Johnson and letting him assemble the team and claiming "aren't I smart for doing that", he chooses to be immature about it and try and keep Johnson's light dimmer than his.

 

[kskboys]

I have zero doubt Jerry WANTS to win. You think he actually doesn't want to win a super bowl? That'snuts.


Now....does he KNOW how to build a winning team? He might think so...but obviously not.

Since he's admitted he's not a good GM, it's a stretch to say he wants to win.

 

[Big_D]

I have zero doubt Jerry WANTS to win. You think he actually doesn't want to win a super bowl? That'snuts.


Now....does he KNOW how to build a winning team? He might think so...but obviously not.

His actions don’t reflect it while he holds this team hostage year after year. How bad he wants to win means nothing at all. That garbage went out the window a long time ago!

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

His actions don’t reflect it while he holds this team hostage year after year. How bad he wants to win means nothing at all. That garbage went out the window a long time ago!

I stand by what I said. His actions are based off his intent and thinking he's more clever than how other teams do it.

He loves the limelight...and still gets it even while losing. Certainly...even he....knows you get a ton more winning. He just keeps striking out with it. Doing it HIS way.

It is an odd situation. If a sane person really wants to win...you'd hand it over to someone that has done it. Jerry ain;t built like that.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Since he's admitted he's not a good GM, it's a stretch to say he wants to win.

See my above comment. Especially the "sane" part.

 

[Big_D]

I stand by what I said. His actions are based off his intent and thinking he's more clever than how other teams do it.

He loves the limelight...and still gets it even while losing. Certainly...even he....knows you get a ton more winning. He just keeps striking out with it. Doing it HIS way.

It is an odd situation. If a sane person really wants to win...you'd hand it over to someone that has done it. Jerry ain;t built like that.

So to sum things up.. He really wants to win but sucks at it and isn’t sane enough to realize it? Sounds counterproductive.

The guys a complete turd. Jerry doesn’t give a crap about winning unless his ego is involved in the process. And we all know how that turns out. It’s a vicious cycle.