CFZ Are the Cowboys totally focused on building a championship team?

[CowboyRoy]

Then his actions would reflect that. He's proven it true beyond a shadow of a doubt. This is not something you just string along decade after decade.

Jerry sucks, we agree. Not sure what your even arguing about.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Sure , he wants to win but only his way. That’s not doing everything within your power to win.

And the record revenue allows him to continue without that pressure . It’s why he set all of the brilliant revenue mechanisms in place so a loss or lack revenue wouldn’t deter him from his ways.

Buddy...........Jerry has the POWER to cut Zeke and or not resign him. Yet he didnt. Not because he didnt care enough about winning, but because he sucks at his job as GM.

This is why we lose. NOT because Jerry doesnt care enough. He makes monster blunders. Like Hiring the horrid Garrett for 10 years to run his football team. His affinity to hire "puppet" HC's to use a favorite term of yours. Not because he doesnt care, but because he is a moron and not a football guy. He sucks at his job.

 

[Diehardblues]

Buddy...........Jerry has the POWER to cut Zeke and or not resign him. Yet he didnt. Not because he didnt care enough about winning, but because he sucks at his job as GM.

This is why we lose. NOT because Jerry doesnt care enough. He makes monster blunders. Like Hiring the horrid Garrett for 10 years to run his football team. His affinity to hire "puppet" HC's to use a favorite term of yours. Not because he doesnt care, but because he is a moron and not a football guy. He sucks at his job.

You still aren’t grasping what I’m saying . Of course he cares. But not enough to get out of the way.

And in order to try and remain a relevant and interesting product he can continue hyping and promoting while he tries to build a winner he takes unorthodox moves to keep his iconic brand front and center.

 

[CowboyRoy]

You still aren’t grasping what I’m saying . Of course he cares. But not enough to get out of the way.

And in order to try and remain a relevant and interesting product he can continue hyping and promoting while he tries to build a winner he takes unorthodox moves to keep his iconic brand front and center.

They are two completely different subjects. Caring and getting out of the way.

He cares about winning more than anyone does and wants to win.

However, dont expect him to step down in order to do it. He truly believes he can get it done with him in charge.

And who do you think is going to take over if he were to step down? Stephen. So its a moot point.

 

[CowboyRoy]

You still aren’t grasping what I’m saying . Of course he cares. But not enough to get out of the way.

And in order to try and remain a relevant and interesting product he can continue hyping and promoting while he tries to build a winner he takes unorthodox moves to keep his iconic brand front and center.

What he does marketing wise is to keep his team relevant and in the news. Nothing to do with his building a team.

 

[Diehardblues]

All very accurate statements. Its just your claim that he doesnt care enough about winning is wrong. He wants to win more than anyone. He just wants to do it his way with himself in charge.

He honstly thinks hes a football guy.

We agree on all points except I believe he realizes he could hire someone better but isn’t interested in owning a team if he isn’t the football guy, for better or worse.

And that is how I’d define winning isn’t the absolute top priority. That’s how these egomaniacs run their business. Their passion overrides their better sense of hiring someone else .

This is why he wanted to buy a team. To be THE football guy. Not hire someone else to do it.

 

[Diehardblues]

What he does marketing wise is to keep his team relevant and in the news. Nothing to do with his building a team.

Right

It keeps the pressure off financially going back to what Tex told him initially that success on the field was critical in generating revenue.

Jethro’s brilliant revenue streams has enabled to continue his ways without the fallback the Cowboys had like in the 80’s with empty seats ultimately losing money. It was his biggest fear in running things himself.

 

[CowboyRoy]

We agree on all points except I believe he realizes he could hire someone better but isn’t interested in owning a team if he isn’t the football guy, for better or worse.

And that is how I’d define winning isn’t the absolute top priority. That’s how these egomaniacs run their business. Their passion overrides their better sense of hiring someone else .

This is why he wanted to buy a team. To be THE football guy. Not hire someone wise to do it.

I agree that he wants to do it himself and get the credit and wont do it any other way. So I guess in a way you could surmise he doesnt care enough but I just think that whole narrative that Jerry doesnt care about winning is false.

Jerry wants to win more than anyone. He just has to do it his way and get the credit.

Jerry runs his football team like its a fortune 500 company. He is at the top and simply delegates people under him to bring him the info so he can make the call. Hes just too much of a fan to make the tough decisions. Sucks at what he does.

 

[CowboyRoy]

So the fact that Jerry made moronic decisions on a regular basis shows how bad he wants to win? That in itself is comical. Even more comical that fans still buy it. He's a dud and how bad he wants to win is irrelevant at this point. The fact is he can't buy a Super Bowl or build one. Whatever direction he decides will be the wrong one. lol

Look at it this way..............................................Jerry deciding to resign the used up zeke to a 2nd contract. Was that because he didnt care about winning or was that because he was bad at his GM job?

Hiring Garrett for 10 years as HC. Was that because he didnt care about winning or was that because he was just bad at being a GM?

 

[Diehardblues]

They are two completely different subjects. Caring and getting out of the way.

He cares about winning more than anyone does and wants to win.

However, dont expect him to step down in order to do it. He truly believes he can get it done with him in charge.

And who do you think is going to take over if he were to step down? Stephen. So its a moot point.

That’s the 64 million dollar question. My hunch is assuming his children inherit equally that Stephen will become Pres and hire a GM they can hold accountable.

I don’t believe the siblings , based on what their mother has said, that any of them will want to place themselves into the public eye and scrutiny their Dad has.

And this was his dream since trying to buy the Chargers to be a football guy without anyone over seeing him. Not sure any of the siblings have that ambition, passion or dream. And with equal partnership would be held accountable by the others .

 

[Diehardblues]

Look at it this way..............................................Jerry deciding to resign the used up zeke to a 2nd contract. Was that because he didnt care about winning or was that because he was bad at his GM job?

Hiring Garrett for 10 years as HC. Was that because he didnt care about winning or was that because he was just bad at being a GM?

Id argue Jethro caved in to Zeke because he felt at that time the running game was critical to the effectiveness and efficiency of Dak and our offense . Especially just after committing to Dak.

Keeping Garrett all of those years was more of Jethro’s desire to gain more credit than his HC.

Our puppetry type HC’s this era including the meddling he’s done even with more proven HC’s is more evidence he’s only interested in winning his way so he can gain the credit he didn’t with Jimmy.

That doesn’t mean he thinks his ways are what best for Cowboys Football. It’s just that his Ego is bigger than his will to win. Or at age 80 he’d finally step aside totally.

 

[Diehardblues]

I agree that he wants to do it himself and get the credit and wont do it any other way. So I guess in a way you could surmise he doesnt care enough but I just think that whole narrative that Jerry doesnt care about winning is false.

Jerry wants to win more than anyone. He just has to do it his way and get the credit.

Jerry runs his football team like its a fortune 500 company. He is at the top and simply delegates people under him to bring him the info so he can make the call. Hes just too much of a fan to make the tough decisions. Sucks at what he does.

If you can’t pass the ball to someone that is more qualified to hit the shot then your ego isn’t what is best for winning.

That doesn’t mean you don’t want to win badly. Just not enough to pass the ball off to someone who might have a better shot than you.

 

[xwalker]

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I’m not sure why fans are misreading my intent here. I’m not saying he doesn’t want to win badly. Just not bad enough to get out of the way.

And without the revenue being threatened with less success it enables him to continue his ways only needing to string fans along while he continues trying to put a winner together.

You're basically saying that if Jerry would hire the right GM that success is inevitable.

That is false. Only 13 teams have won a Super Bowl since the Cowboys last SB win. That means 19 teams have not won during that time period. Jerry didn't cause all 19 teams to fail...

 

[xwalker]

So the fact that Jerry made moronic decisions on a regular basis shows how bad he wants to win? That in itself is comical. Even more comical that fans still buy it. He's a dud and how bad he wants to win is irrelevant at this point. The fact is he can't buy a Super Bowl or build one. Whatever direction he decides will be the wrong one. lol

You don't appear capable of using logic. You post makes no sense.

 

[Diehardblues]

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You're basically saying that if Jerry would hire the right GM that success is inevitable.

That is false. Only 13 teams have won a Super Bowl since the Cowboys last SB win. That means 19 teams have not won during that time period. Jerry didn't cause all 19 teams to fail...

No, not what I’m saying. There’s no guarantee. And I agree Jethro has fared better than many other franchises .The difference is they at least have the ability to continue trying to hire the right guy.

And here’s a more alarming stat. Since our last championship appearance only Detroit, Dallas and Wash have failed to make it to a championship game in NFC. And in NFL Dallas is one of only 4 teams not to make it to a champ game during same time frame. It was 5 until Bengals made it last year.

 

[kskboys]

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You're basically saying that if Jerry would hire the right GM that success is inevitable.

That is false. Only 13 teams have won a Super Bowl since the Cowboys last SB win. That means 19 teams have not won during that time period. Jerry didn't cause all 19 teams to fail...

No one is saying that.

The better the GM, the better shot at success. I mean, that is simply crystal clear truth.

 

[kskboys]

No, not what I’m saying. There’s no guarantee. And I agree Jethro has fared better than many other franchises .

The difference is they at least have the ability to continue trying to hire the right guy.

And here’s a more alarming stat. Since our last championship appearance only Detroit, Dallas and Wash have failed to make it to a championship game in NFC.

And in NFL Dallas is one of only 4 teams not to make it.

Has he? Mabe w/ the overall record. However, that has a huge knife in the guts. The better record has more to do with Jerry's pathetic attempts to stay relevant. If we had a worse overall record, we'd have better players from the years we sucked. Instead, it's midround picks.

KC is the exception, no doubt. But look at the other super bowl contenders, and think about what they have in common. Some really good players. And how did they get those players? High draft picks, mostly. Rams got Aaron Donald w/ a high 1st. 11th, wasn't it? They don't win the super bowl w/o him.

How did Cincy suddenly become a super bowl threat? Easy, Burrows, first pick in the draft.

Yes, there is a lot more to it than that, no doubt. Smart FA maneuvering(Something we suck at), smart drafting (ditto), understanding postional importance(Ditto again).

We need a smart GM to take us over the top.

 

[LonnieElam]

No. They only care about money, and they hire incompetent family members all over the organization. What I find hilarious is the fact that the guy that Charlotte Jones just divorced is the guy that spilled the beans to the media about Jerry's love-child.

 

[xwalker]

No, not what I’m saying. There’s no guarantee. And I agree Jethro has fared better than many other franchises .The difference is they at least have the ability to continue trying to hire the right guy.

And here’s a more alarming stat. Since our last championship appearance only Detroit, Dallas and Wash have failed to make it to a championship game in NFC. And in NFL Dallas is one of only 4 teams not to make it to a champ game during same time frame. It was 5 until Bengals made it last year.

Fans of the other 18 teams are whining that their owner didn't hire the right GM...

 

[kskboys]

Fans of the other 18 teams are whining that their owner didn't hire the right GM...

OK, but pointing at the crapp on someone else's shoes doesn't make you stink less.