CFZ Are the Cowboys totally focused on building a championship team?

[Whirlwin]

Our owner has made some very candid public outburst in recent weeks which has supported my opinions this era on his priorities.

This is what I’ve always appreciated about our dysfunctional ownership and front office. In order to appeal to fans criticism and the hounding from media he often displays his honest feelings.

In the past he’s said he’d doing everything within his power to win and no one wants to win more than him but he’s unwilling to make any changes at the top even after admitting he’d of fired a GM with his record this era. Basically this means he only wants to win his way.

He’s also stated that remaining interesting and relative is the most important factor in order to maintain the record revenue hyping and promoting our iconic brand.

More recently he’s stated that going All In isn’t worth the risk as it could lead to lean years needing more of an overall rebuild.

The reason I bring this up is I think it’s time we adjust our expectations here. If our owner isn’t willing to make the decisions and moves to build more than an entertainment entity which simply maintains interest and relativity why are we beating our heads trying to figure out how to build a championship team or critiquing them for not building more than they have.

I’m not sure that’s a core priority anymore. Sure, if we stumbled onto another Super Bowl they’d be ecstatic and more than happy to take credit.

I think they are content with this level of success as it continues driving their record revenue enabling the celebrity status he’s pursued. At age 80 he still seems determined to stay the course of status quo regardless whether he’s delegated some responsibility or not.

He’s still intent on being the face of the franchise and where the buck stops . And the meddling with coaching decisions and players contracts persist which all too often influence the atmosphere , culture and potentially the strategic football mentality.

Until we can move on from these unfortunate priorities and distractions it’s very difficult for me to take this football franchise very serious. It’s become more of a sports entertainment venture which I believe is the core intention in order to prevent more serious pressure from the fans and media. Any success beyond that is purely coincidental or sheer chance.

I think they want to put a competitive team out there every single season. If they win it all fine if they don’t I believe that’s fine too. At this point I’m not sure if he’s 100% motivated on championship or bust.

 

[Diehardblues]

he said he would have fired himself, and he was refering to years like the campo years, and possibly the 8-8 JG years.
no way he was referring to 2014 up.
And he is going to ignore that, because this is what he enjoys doing, and he is addicted to it.
Aside from stacking gold, this is his only interest in life.

That interview was in 2012.

I’ve provided the link to that interview for appropriate context which he didn’t refer to any certain span.

“I’ve always worked for myself and you can’t do that. You basically have to straighten that guy out in the mirror when you work for yourself. But certainly, if I’d had the discretion, I’ve done it with coaches and certainly I would have changed a general manager.”

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...says-he-would-have-fired-jerry-jones-the-g-m/

 

[Diehardblues]

I think they want to put a competitive team out there every single season. If they win it all fine if they don’t I believe that’s fine too. At this point I’m not sure if he’s 100% motivated on championship or bust.

Correct and that’s the basis of my narrative.

That remaining interesting and relative is at the core of maintaining the record revenue which allows them to continue their ways without more pushback.

Fielding a competitive team with a core of stars provides a viable product to hype and sell under their iconic label. More success is welcome but isn’t needed or required.

The only way to bring the kind of change most fans truly want would require the revenue to be threatened.

 

[Whirlwin]

Correct and that’s the basis of my narrative.

That remaining interesting and relative is at the core of maintaining the record revenue which allows them to continue their ways without more pushback.

Fielding a competitive team with a core of stars provides a viable product to hype and sell under their iconic label. More success is welcome but isn’t needed or required.

The only way to bring the kind of change most fans truly want would require the revenue to be threatened.

I did a thread on this, they told me I was the ultimate homer. Which was ridiculous, because I’m just trying to explain how I think the franchise is dealing with this. Some people just are ignorant. They can’t see past their nose or maybe just tunnel vision. It amazes me that they can’t stick to the script.

 

[DallasEast]

There have been dozens of NFL owners with huge egos.

Scratch that.

There have been hundreds of professional sports franchise owners from around the world with huge egos down through the years.

Supposedly Jerry Jones has a huge ego.

Hundreds of other owners have been far less hands on of their sports operations. And have seldom or never purposefully attracted attention from the public or media to themselves.

What makes Jones an atypical sports franchise owner in regards to having a huge ego?

Perhaps Jones huge ego can be better described so that it explains why his huge ego is different from the vast majority of other sports franchise owners' huge egos?

Maybe what bounces around inside Jones' skull is more than a huge ego..?

nah. May as well accept he only has a huge ego. After all, every owner acts like Jerry Jones because they share his huge ego. Going to the combine. Decorating draft rooms with their personal throne (It's true. Pay attention to the other 31 team's draft rooms on ESPN or NFL Network during all three days of the NFL Draft. They're everywhere!) Hogging the spotlight from their coaches. Lying and denying special recognition to their ex-multiple championship winning head coaches. Bragging what their teams will do every year before the regular season begins. Hiring head coaches who cannot put together their own coaching staffs...

Yeah. All owners are just the same. All having huge egos, I mean.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Of course not. We are focused on managing the cap and making sure we have enough space to sign our own guys.

 

[Rockport]

Here is my words in OP. You didn’t complete my entire sentence . Context is critical .

“He’s also stated that remaining interesting and relative is the most important factor in order to maintain the record revenue”.

This is my narrative that maintaining the record revenue is the initial priority.

I’ve always argued that the record revenue enables him to continue his ways without more success on the field despite the criticism.

Unfortunately the mouth breathers here will take it differently.

 

[Rockport]

Correct and that’s the basis of my narrative.

That remaining interesting and relative is at the core of maintaining the record revenue which allows them to continue their ways without more pushback.

Fielding a competitive team with a core of stars provides a viable product to hype and sell under their iconic label. More success is welcome but isn’t needed or required.

The only way to bring the kind of change most fans truly want would require the revenue to be threatened.

So you do believe that Jerry believes staying relevant is more important than winning. I disagree. He wants to win more than anything. He just is incompetent.

 

[Big_D]

Not really. He has declared that he'd have been fired by any other club. He knows he sucks.

He even said last year that he would never step down regardless of scrutiny or results. Yet people still believe he actually wants to win? A team stuck in a terrible situation no matter how bad he wants to win. That phrase coming from him means nothing at all.

 

[Diehardblues]

So you do believe that Jerry believes staying relevant is more important than winning. I disagree. He wants to win more than anything. He just is incompetent.

No, they’re not one in the same.

Maintaining relevance and interest are to keep the revenue rolling. As long as that’s in tact he doesn't have to change his ways.

Yes, he wants to win more than anything but not enough to get totally out of the way and hire a GM.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Our owner has made some very candid public outburst in recent weeks which has supported my opinions this era on his priorities.

This is what I’ve always appreciated about our dysfunctional ownership and front office. In order to appeal to fans criticism and the hounding from media he often displays his honest feelings.

In the past he’s said he’d doing everything within his power to win and no one wants to win more than him but he’s unwilling to make any changes at the top even after admitting he’d of fired a GM with his record this era. Basically this means he only wants to win his way.

He’s also stated that remaining interesting and relative is the most important factor in order to maintain the record revenue hyping and promoting our iconic brand.

More recently he’s stated that going All In isn’t worth the risk as it could lead to lean years needing more of an overall rebuild.

The reason I bring this up is I think it’s time we adjust our expectations here. If our owner isn’t willing to make the decisions and moves to build more than an entertainment entity which simply maintains interest and relativity why are we beating our heads trying to figure out how to build a championship team or critiquing them for not building more than they have.

I’m not sure that’s a core priority anymore. Sure, if we stumbled onto another Super Bowl they’d be ecstatic and more than happy to take credit.

I think they are content with this level of success as it continues driving their record revenue enabling the celebrity status he’s pursued. At age 80 he still seems determined to stay the course of status quo regardless whether he’s delegated some responsibility or not.

He’s still intent on being the face of the franchise and where the buck stops . And the meddling with coaching decisions and players contracts persist which all too often influence the atmosphere , culture and potentially the strategic football mentality.

Until we can move on from these unfortunate priorities and distractions it’s very difficult for me to take this football franchise very serious. It’s become more of a sports entertainment venture which I believe is the core intention in order to prevent more serious pressure from the fans and media. Any success beyond that is purely coincidental or sheer chance.

This is the one angle I dont agree with you on Jones. I think he want to win more or as much as ANYONE!!

The difference is he sucks at it. He isnt good enough to get it done. Even when he gets lucky like with Romo and Dak he still cant do it.

What would Jones look like as a team builder if he had to add the task of finding a franchise QB? Either moving up or trading assets to draft one high. We saw how futile his efforts were after Aikman. It basically never happened until he stumbled upon Romo the UDFA. Which wasnt even his call.

 

[CowboyRoy]

If your not all in, you are not trying hard enough and likely to reside on the outside looking in.

Oddly Jones was right. The Eagles did go all in, they almost had to and the team will look very different next season. They now have to pay Hurts as well.

 

[CowboyRoy]

He even said last year that he would never step down regardless of scrutiny or results. Yet people still believe he actually wants to win? A team stuck in a terrible situation no matter how bad he wants to win. That phrase coming from him means nothing at all.

Jones wants to win more than anyone.

 

[CowboyRoy]

No, they’re not one in the same.

Maintaining relevance and interest are to keep the revenue rolling. As long as that’s in tact he doesn't have to change his ways.

Yes, he wants to win more than anything but not enough to get totally out of the way and hire a GM.

No your really reaching now. Rockport is spot on. Jerry wants to win more than anyone. Cmon he knows winning it all is the best way to make money and have the light shine brightest on the Cowboys. He just sucks at it. He cant do it.

 

[Big_D]

Jones wants to win more than anyone.

It still means nothing whether you say it or he says it. Just empty words..

 

[xwalker]

Our owner has made some very candid public outburst in recent weeks which has supported my opinions this era on his priorities.

This is what I’ve always appreciated about our dysfunctional ownership and front office. In order to appeal to fans criticism and the hounding from media he often displays his honest feelings.

In the past he’s said he’d doing everything within his power to win and no one wants to win more than him but he’s unwilling to make any changes at the top even after admitting he’d of fired a GM with his record this era. Basically this means he only wants to win his way.

He’s also stated that remaining interesting and relative is the most important factor in order to maintain the record revenue hyping and promoting our iconic brand.

More recently he’s stated that going All In isn’t worth the risk as it could lead to lean years needing more of an overall rebuild.

The reason I bring this up is I think it’s time we adjust our expectations here. If our owner isn’t willing to make the decisions and moves to build more than an entertainment entity which simply maintains interest and relativity why are we beating our heads trying to figure out how to build a championship team or critiquing them for not building more than they have.

I’m not sure that’s a core priority anymore. Sure, if we stumbled onto another Super Bowl they’d be ecstatic and more than happy to take credit.

I think they are content with this level of success as it continues driving their record revenue enabling the celebrity status he’s pursued. At age 80 he still seems determined to stay the course of status quo regardless whether he’s delegated some responsibility or not.

He’s still intent on being the face of the franchise and where the buck stops . And the meddling with coaching decisions and players contracts persist which all too often influence the atmosphere , culture and potentially the strategic football mentality.

Until we can move on from these unfortunate priorities and distractions it’s very difficult for me to take this football franchise very serious. It’s become more of a sports entertainment venture which I believe is the core intention in order to prevent more serious pressure from the fans and media. Any success beyond that is purely coincidental or sheer chance.

The answer so many here don't want to accept is Yes. Jerry would do anything and give anything to win it all.
As long as he gets credit and validation externally and internally for winning.

He is about to die and would cash in so much of his fortune to relieve that weight from his mind. The question of him vs Jimmy.

Now here comes the angry people who refuse to empathize with a billionaire and will bash him for making money and pretend its all here cares about.

The concept that Jerry does not care about winning is comical.

If he could buy a SB win, he would do it.

Jerry operated in wildcat mode from 1996 to 2013 with moves like 2 first round picks for Joey Galloway.

In 2014 his son Stephen "Cap Boy" Jones started taking over control of football operations and SJ promoted McClay to the top talent evalation job.

SJ convinced Jerry that the Patriots model of team building was to limit spending on free agents and focus on developing draft picks.
- That might or might not be completely correct, but it's what SJ has said many times on the weekly local sports talking radio interviews that he does during the season and occasionally in the off-season.
- Now SJ has everyone (McClay, coaches, scouts, etc.) unified to convery the same unified message to Jerry.

• In order to keep Jerry from interferring, SJ has implemented his plan slowly.
  • Clean up the cap.
  • Improve their drafting process (find a balance between empowing the scouting dept. and empowering coaches in the draft decisions).
  • Get rid of Garrett.
  • Hire a legit NFL Head Coach.
  • Hire legit assistant coaches.
  • Now in 2023 the next step has been to further empower McCarthy/Quinn to get more of "their guys" on the coaching staff.

The biggest stumble for SJ was over-empowering Marinelli in the talent acquisition process.
- SJ wanted to rectify the 2013 fail by McClay's predecessor when the scouting dept. didn't consult the coaching staff on the draft board.
- i.e. The Sharrif Floyd fiasco where they got lucky and ended up with Travis Frederick but the process was a huge fail.
- Based on interviews of Will McClay, he said directly that the scouting dept. and the coaching staff are in much better harmony since McCarthy and Quinn arrived.


The last thing that we as fans should want is for Jerry to go back to his wildcatting methods.

 

[Swagger]

Given that Dak Prescott is still the quarterback then the answer is clearly no or a delusional yes.

 

[Diehardblues]

This is the one angle I dont agree with you on Jones. I think he want to win more or as much as ANYONE!!

The difference is he sucks at it. He isnt good enough to get it done. Even when he gets lucky like with Romo and Dak he still cant do it.

What would Jones look like as a team builder if he had to add the task of finding a franchise QB? Either moving up or trading assets to draft one high. We saw how futile his efforts were after Aikman. It basically never happened until he stumbled upon Romo the UDFA. Which wasnt even his call.

I’m not saying he doesn’t want to win. Just not bad enough to get out of the way. I’m not sure why this isn’t clear.

His initial priorities of generating revenue only places him in a position where the threat of loss revenue might force him to step down.

With no threat to his revenue all he has to do is try and at least keep a competitive team which he can hype and promote while he’s still desperately trying to build a winner.

 

[CowboyRoy]

It still means nothing whether you say it or he says it. Just empty words..

Its empty because he sucks at it.

But the claim that Jones doesnt care about winning is laughable.

 

[Diehardblues]

The concept that Jerry does not care about winning is comical.

If he could buy a SB win, he would do it.

Jerry operated in wildcat mode from 1996 to 2013 with moves like 2 first round picks for Joey Galloway.

In 2014 his son Stephen "Cap Boy" Jones started taking over control of football operations and SJ promoted McClay to the top talent evalation job.

SJ convinced Jerry that the Patriots model of team building was to limit spending on free agents and focus on developing draft picks.
- That might or might not be completely correct, but it's what SJ has said many times on the weekly local sports talking radio interviews that he does during the season and occasionally in the off-season.
- Now SJ has everyone (McClay, coaches, scouts, etc.) unified to convery the same unified message to Jerry.

• In order to keep Jerry from interferring, SJ has implemented his plan slowly.
  • Clean up the cap.
  • Improve their drafting process (find a balance between empowing the scouting dept. and empowering coaches in the draft decisions).
  • Get rid of Garrett.
  • Hire a legit NFL Head Coach.
  • Hire legit assistant coaches.
  • Now in 2023 the next step has been to further empower McCarthy/Quinn to get more of "their guys" on the coaching staff.

The biggest stumble for SJ was over-empowering Marinelli in the talent acquisition process.
- SJ wanted to rectify the 2013 fail by McClay's predecessor when the scouting dept. didn't consult the coaching staff on the draft board.
- i.e. The Sharrif Floyd fiasco where they got lucky and ended up with Travis Frederick but the process was a huge fail.
- Based on interviews of Will McClay, he said directly that the scouting dept. and the coaching staff are in much better harmony since McCarthy and Quinn arrived.


The last thing that we as fans should want is for Jerry to go back to his wildcatting methods.

I’m not sure why fans are misreading my intent here. I’m not saying he doesn’t want to win badly. Just not bad enough to get out of the way.

And without the revenue being threatened with less success it enables him to continue his ways only needing to string fans along while he continues trying to put a winner together.