Are we fooling ourselves hitching our wagon to Tony Romo?

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Hostile;1385563 said:
I am, by far, the biggest QB elitest on this forum. I am all about the pedigree when it comes to QBs. It is the position that I harp on the most. It is the position I coached. I believe you need a good QB to go anywhere.

We are fine with Romo.

He doesn't have a huge arm, but he is accurate, makes good decisions, follows proper progressions on his reads, is smart, athletic, and charismatic so that his team follows him.

Save your hands from wringing and don't pull out your hair.

Oh, and our thoughts on the topic will have nothing to do with whether or not he gets a lucrative, long term contract. I can promise you that. This entire forum could hate him and it wouldn't stop the Cowboys from anything.

I agree to an extent,he doesnt always make good decisions,and does make a lot of mistakes that can be corrected,hopefully.i do wonder a lot if an int. is coming.he is Favre all the way.
 

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philo beddoe;1385610 said:
How is he at the deep out?

I saw him make that throw to Terry Glenn on more than one occasion. The biggest concern I have with him is when his throws stay flat, particularly on the deep ball. I think that, at times, he'd benefit from some more arc.

Having said all of that, just think back to some of the throws the guy made, under pressure and on the move. I am not worried about his arm. Joe Montana didn't have a cannon. No, he's not Joe, but I do think has more than enough arm to get the job done.
 

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juckie;1385618 said:
I agree to an extent,he doesnt always make good decisions,and does make a lot of mistakes that can be corrected,hopefully.i do wonder a lot if an int. is coming.he is Favre all the way.
In my 37 years of watching football I have never seen the QB who always makes good decisions.

Not in High School.

Not in the CFL.

Not in NFLE.

Not in the various levels of the NCAA.

Not in the Arena League.

Not in the USFL.

Not in the WFL.

Not in the XFL.

Not in the NFL.

I confess, I have just never seen that guy. When you do would you help me out and let me know who he is?
 

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Skin;1385621 said:
I saw him make that throw to Terry Glenn on more than one occasion. The biggest concern I have with him is when his throws stay flat, particularly on the deep ball. I think that, at times, he'd benefit from some more arc.

Having said all of that, just think back to some of the throws the guy made, under pressure and on the move. I am not worried about his arm. Joe Montana didn't have a cannon. No, he's not Joe, but I do think has more than enough arm to get the job done.

I agree and think too much is being made out of Tony's arm strenght. He does not have the strongest arm but his arm is strong enough to make all the throws that need to be made.
 

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Skin;1385621 said:
I saw him make that throw to Terry Glenn on more than one occasion. The biggest concern I have with him is when his throws stay flat, particularly on the deep ball. I think that, at times, he'd benefit from some more arc.

Having said all of that, just think back to some of the throws the guy made, under pressure and on the move. I am not worried about his arm. Joe Montana didn't have a cannon. No, he's not Joe, but I do think has more than enough arm to get the job done.

There should be no question of whether or not he has the arm necesary after that throw to Witten to beat the Giants. Rolling left, across his natural motion, he squares up and darts it what - 45 yards downfield? That is an impressive throw for any QB.

Romo just needs to get back to playing within the offense, and not pressing to be a supahstah all the time. That's when he returned to average status - when he just ran things, he was amazing.
 

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philo beddoe;1385616 said:
Good enough for me. What are your thoughts on who we should have to back him up? Who would you propose? Is Tommy Maddox a joke or a real possibility?
Maddox was invited here under Parcells watch for a look. I haven't seen his name mentioned since he wasn't signed, except on this forum by some fans who can't seem to accept the fact that we didn't sign him.

I don't know, maybe, just maybe, it's time to think that since that didn't happen it isn't going to.

If I had to guess on a Vet backup it might be Doug Johnson. Played for the Falcons when Wade was the DC and Interim HC there. Not crazy about the idea, but I don't think it's out of the realm of the possible. I'd love to have someone like Trent Dilfer. That isn't likely, but I'd love it. There will be veterans let go by squads. I think it's wise to see who hits the market.

I would like to draft a QB on Day 2.
 

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His arm was good enough to win the QB competition in the Pro-Bowl against the best QB's in the league.
 

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superpunk;1385628 said:
There should be no question of whether or not he has the arm necesary after that throw to Witten to beat the Giants. Rolling left, across his natural motion, he squares up and darts it what - 45 yards downfield? That is an impressive throw for any QB.

That was as good a throw as you'll see any QB make.
 

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The ONLY guy out there that might be worth a look is Carr. But I think he has pretty much been ruined by being a punching bag.
 

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Hostile;1385624 said:
In my 37 years of watching football I have never seen the QB who always makes good decisions.

Not in High School.

Not in the CFL.

Not in NFLE.

Not in the various levels of the NCAA.

Not in the Arena League.

Not in the USFL.

Not in the WFL.

Not in the XFL.

Not in the NFL.

I confess, I have just never seen that guy. When you do would you help me out and let me know who he is?

let me rephrase he tends to be 50-50 on his decisions,and thats correctible.dont get me wrong i like him he is still raw tho.
 

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Jarv;1385636 said:
His arm was good enough to win the QB competition in the Pro-Bowl against the best QB's in the league.
Accuracy. Yep, he's got that and it is underrated by some. Not me.
 

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burmafrd;1385640 said:
The ONLY guy out there that might be worth a look is Carr. But I think he has pretty much been ruined by being a punching bag.

I'm sure it hasnt helped, but like many other QB's lately, he was just never as good as the spot he was picked in the begin with

he's always looked like a late 1st to 2nd rd guy to me, and thats basically the way he has played

David
 

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burmafrd;1385640 said:
The ONLY guy out there that might be worth a look is Carr. But I think he has pretty much been ruined by being a punching bag.

Having watched Carr a bunch, I can say only say, "NO, NO, NO!" He has been a punching bag, but a lot of that has been self-inflicted. I have gotten tired of hearing about how bad their line is. It hasn't been stellar, but the guy has absolutely zero pocket presence. He constantly steps into sacks and has never learned the basic concept of throwing away the ball to avoid getting sacked. He will serve someone as a solid back-up, but that's it, IMO.
 

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I would like to bring in someone to compete with Romo, and then let the best man win.

I don't think Carr is as bad as he looked sometimes in Houston, he would be OK to bring in. He was a great passer at FS.

Whoever it is, I would let them compete with Romo, and not give Romo the starting job.
 

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juckie;1385645 said:
let me rephrase he tends to be 50-50 on his decisions,and thats correctible.dont get me wrong i like him he is still raw tho.
50-50?

How did he complete 65.3% (2nd in the NFL to David Carr) of his passes then? Shouldn't he be about 50%?

How did he have more TDs (19) than INTs (13)? Luck?

Why was he the 5th highest rated QB in the NFL last year? Shouldnt he be closer to middle of the pack if he's 50-50?

You've got a different definition of 50-50 than I do.
 

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WV Cowboy;1385655 said:
I would like to bring in someone to compete with Romo, and then let the best man win.

I don't think Carr is as bad as he looked sometimes in Houston, he would be OK to bring in. He was a great passer at FS.

Whoever it is, I would let them compete with Romo, and not give Romo the starting job.
If I could hand pick who to bring in, Carr would be my choice.

I do like the idea of winning a job against a true competitor.
 

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Hostile;1385656 said:
50-50?

How did he complete 65.3% (2nd in the NFL to David Carr) of his passes then?

How did he have more TDs (19) than INTs (13)?

Why was he the 5th highest rated QB in the NFL last year? Shouldnt he be closer to middle of the pack if he's 50-50?

You've got a different definition of 50-50 than I do.

Not to mention his accuracy goes up to 70% in 3rd down situations and Dallas put Romo in a lot of 3rd and longs this past season. Give Romo some help along the line and I think this guy can take us to the top.
 

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Hostile;1385649 said:
Accuracy. Yep, he's got that and it is underrated by some. Not me.

Accuracy and cool under pressure. I would like him to Joe Montana, he's not in Joe's class yet, but that is what I see in him.

In this season alone how many times did he drive us down the field to be put in a situation to win ?

1) Skins game, he drove us down for the winning FG in the last minutes. Hell of an ending, but he put us in position.

2) Giants game and the pass to Witten, we won with a FG with 1 sec left.

3) Even Seattle where we lost, he drove us down the field and we would have kicked a go ahead FG with just minutes left if it wasn't for the famous botched snap.

Probably some others I missed, but cool under pressure at the end of games where your teamates have confidence in you. That is a quality that is better than a rocket arm IMHO...
 

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Hostile;1385635 said:
Maddox was invited here under Parcells watch for a look. I haven't seen his name mentioned since he wasn't signed, except on this forum by some fans who can't seem to accept the fact that we didn't sign him.

I don't know, maybe, just maybe, it's time to think that since that didn't happen it isn't going to.

If I had to guess on a Vet backup it might be Doug Johnson. Played for the Falcons when Wade was the DC and Interim HC there. Not crazy about the idea, but I don't think it's out of the realm of the possible. I'd love to have someone like Trent Dilfer. That isn't likely, but I'd love it. There will be veterans let go by squads. I think it's wise to see who hits the market.

I would like to draft a QB on Day 2.[/qu
I thought I heard Johnson signed with Cincy. I agree on a second day pick spent on a QB. Your thoughts on Matt Baker?
 

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Hostile;1385656 said:
50-50?

How did he complete 65.3% (2nd in the NFL to David Carr) of his passes then? Shouldn't he be about 50%?

How did he have more TDs (19) than INTs (13)? Luck?

Why was he the 5th highest rated QB in the NFL last year? Shouldnt he be closer to middle of the pack if he's 50-50?

You've got a different definition of 50-50 than I do.

do u agree that he is raw?he is great and bad in the same token.i think he will only get better and definitely is our guy.but i personally have about 75% complete faith in him now.we shall see.
 
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